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Worldly word:New Bible texts translate the Bible away
WORLD ^ | October 15, 2005 | Gene Edward Veith

Posted on 10/07/2005 8:38:02 AM PDT by Caleb1411

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The Inclusive Bible follows the higher critics in leaving out the Pastoral Epistles and Revelation, and it follows The Da Vinci Code in including instead the Gnostic Gospel of Thomas. This translation is endorsed by the Archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams, and the evangelical leader Tony Campolo.

They're not serious, are they? Is this satire? Does anyone know if this is true?

21 posted on 10/07/2005 8:56:46 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Interestingly, while Phelps was disfellowshipped by the Baptists a long time ago, he is indeed affiliated with a larger religious group - a non-Christian neo-Nazi sect which calls itself "Christian Identity."

The only member of his congregation who is not related to him by blood or marriage is a Christian Identity minister.

But the press prefers to identify him as a "Christian" or a "Baptist" when he is actually a neo-Nazi sympathizer.

22 posted on 10/07/2005 8:57:11 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: xzins
This revision of the canon is true - that's the actual canon they use.

Williams and Campolo have complimented the translation, but they ahve not to my knowledge officially "endorsed" it for use in ministry.

23 posted on 10/07/2005 8:58:39 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: Caleb1411

Eeeeek!!!


24 posted on 10/07/2005 9:02:59 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: absolootezer0

The difference is that with prior translations being changed, they were being adapted to current word usage -- they simply wanted to keep the translation readable to the current generation. With most, the original Hebrew/Greek was still utilized, and an effort to be literal and not paraphrase was made.

That is a far different motive than actually changing the meaning of the passages to suit sliding norms and mores.


25 posted on 10/07/2005 9:03:13 AM PDT by scott7278 (We will not fail.)
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To: Sans-Culotte

If your Pastor is using the Father-Mother term - RUN AWAY!


26 posted on 10/07/2005 9:03:56 AM PDT by Chili Girl
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To: Caleb1411
And in a further bid to save space and be 'relevant for todays youth', the 10 Commandants were reduced to this one

"Be cool Dude."

A pox on their house. (you hear a spitting noise as he stomps off)

27 posted on 10/07/2005 9:04:20 AM PDT by ASOC (Insert clever tagline here: _______)
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To: Caleb1411

Give me the King James Version any day.


28 posted on 10/07/2005 9:07:06 AM PDT by RobertP
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Sounds like how Rev Phelps calls himself "Baptist" yet has absolutely no affiliation with any Baptist organization.

And he has done tremendous harm to our witness as a result. I was sitting next to a young woman on an airplane when she asked me what I did. When I told her, "I'm a pastor," she said, "You're not one of those Southern Baptist pastors, are you?"

She honestly thought that we were all like him.

29 posted on 10/07/2005 9:08:02 AM PDT by scott7278 (We will not fail.)
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To: Caleb1411

People are so disgusted with mainline PCness, they are leaving in droves. In liberal Massachusetts, the UCC has gone from 210,000 members in 491 churches in 1965 to 90,000 members in 412 churches in 2005.


30 posted on 10/07/2005 9:09:43 AM PDT by cloud8
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To: SmartCitizen
nyone who alters the Word of God or favors its altering is an apostate

Does not King James alter the word of God?
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31 posted on 10/07/2005 9:10:22 AM PDT by radioman
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To: Caleb1411

>> The bisexual deity "Father-Mother" <<

Funny... I missed the part where the article established bisexuality. Come to think of it, I don't believe my bible makes any mention of God having sex at all... Crazy liberals!

Seriesly,
(Or as series as any post spelling series like that can be...)
The term for possessing both masculine and feminine qualities or characteristics is "androgynous."

Hold on a second... in double-checking dictionary.com to see if there might be any synonymous terms for "androgynous" (since androgynous has certain connotations of sexual confusion), such as, perhaps, "bigendered," (not a word, btw), I discovered that this usage of the term bisexual is actually correct.


32 posted on 10/07/2005 9:10:32 AM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus
-- >> The bisexual deity "Father-Mother" << --
Bisexual is hardly the correct term, but I cannot think of a better one. Maybe "above such distinction as sex", or something. The rest of the changes sound farcical.
33 posted on 10/07/2005 9:17:49 AM PDT by Unassuaged (I have shocking data relevant to the conversation!)
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To: TonyRo76

Sinead is very flaky, no question about it. But I accept her apologies regarding her act of hatred against Pope John Paul II, as they profuse, profound, and accompanied by a pervasive change in her world view. As far as I'm concerned, she is a decent, talented, and well, yeah, VERY FLAKY songwriter.


34 posted on 10/07/2005 9:19:16 AM PDT by dangus
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To: SoftballMominVA

Very well spoken by your pastor. Our society is in the process of trying to create their own 'god', in their own image, the god of earth and self human love, not the G-d of Abraham, Issac and Jacob! This cafeteria god will be cast out by the G-d of the universe.


35 posted on 10/07/2005 9:20:56 AM PDT by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem in the name of the G-d of Jacob)
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To: dangus

This is one aspect of Christianity that doesn't trouble Judaism as much. There is one single text of the Torah, letter-for-letter identical around the world and across the globe for thousands of years.

While the Reform congregations have what I've often termed as the "incredible shrinking siddur" where they can play out their politically-correct fetishes with gender-neutral language and what have you, they cannot change the immutable text of the Torah because of a web of millenia-old tradition designed to insure the accuracy of every last one of the 304,805 letters in each scroll:

http://www.aish.com/holidays/shavuot/last/text.htm


36 posted on 10/07/2005 9:25:16 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: radioman

King James does not alter key contexts and concepts, like GENDER and soft-pedalling certain sins. The TNIV is an abomination and anyone who thinks it is okay is few bricks short of a full load on the orthodoxy department.


37 posted on 10/07/2005 9:26:40 AM PDT by SmartCitizen
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To: thompsonsjkc; odoso; animoveritas; mercygrace; Laissez-faire capitalist; bellevuesbest; ...

Another Moral Absolutes Pinger coming atcha.

Craziness abounds. IIRC, that Tony Campolo fellow was one of the "relgious" leaders who helped re-hab Clintoon after being Lewinskied.

If the Bible is going to be transmogrified into leftist twaddle, it's worse than any ordinary fiction book. It's like milk that looks innocent and nutritious, with poison added.

Freepmail me if you want on/off this pinglist.


38 posted on 10/07/2005 9:26:56 AM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: Sans-Culotte

My hubby and I went to a wedding in a Methodist church last month and the minister talked and prayer to God our "parent". Ugh. For a wedding present, I bought them a NJKV Family Bible. :)


39 posted on 10/07/2005 9:31:22 AM PDT by lupie
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To: xzins
I don't see any indication of satirical content on the site it's posted from.

This is hardly surprising though.

40 posted on 10/07/2005 9:31:35 AM PDT by Frumanchu (Inveterate Pelagian by birth, Calvinist by grace.)
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