Posted on 10/07/2005 8:38:02 AM PDT by Caleb1411
I'm annoyed by the whole "10 Commandments" idea. Can we change it to "8 Suggestions"? Thou shouldn't ___________ (unless thou really feels like it). < /sarcasm>
I wonder if one of the disciples was renamed "Bulwinkle."
Have you tried a PCA (Presbyterian Church of America) or Orthdox Presbyterian church? You won't find any of that nonsense in either one of them.
It includes the Gospel of Thomas???
I'm sorry, but bending over backwards to make a bible PC and then including the Gospel of Thomas???
That's kind of like the MC, "I must apologize to the audience for permitting the last act on stage. I can't believe he said 'Afro-Americans,' when the term is 'African-American.' Now here's D.J. Sambo the Cop-Killer singing 'The Final Solution: Ahm So Lazy 'Cuz Ah Miss My Plantation.'"
I know the Gospel of Thomas is a favorite among writers (By the way, if you're going for offensive anyway, skip the dull DaVinci code and go straight for the jaw-droppingly offensive but at least provocative movie, "Stigmata.") who like to promote the notion that there are ancient stories of Christ which were rejected for inclusion in the bible, but I seriously wonder how many have ever read the Gospel of Thomas. It's from an ascetic, celibate sect with some revoltingly non-modern ideas.
My thoughts exactly... read post #32.
Although it is highly unusual to translate foreign-language based proper nouns (my own name in real life would, if translated, be a rather long phrase) "Rocky" is a reasonable translation of "Peter" or "Cephas". I don't know what "Bethsaida" means. They must have been smoking something to get "Ray" out of "Nicodemus".
As for the rest, what they have produced is not the Bible, and is arguably blasphemous.
>> The pastor at the Presbyterian USA church of which my wife and I are members has already started inserting the Father-Mother thing. <<
What do you expect from a church named PC-USA?
Put some lipstick on that pig.
Gimme that old time religion, it's good enuf for me.
Rocky for Peter (petra) is understandable, and Bethsaida was a fishing village on the Sea of Galilee. Ray for Nicodemus? Ya got me on that one.
It's all about homosexuality. The gay agenda trumps everything.
Oops... I should've read your link before commenting. I had been very impressed by a concert a friend of mine dragged me too, but it looks like she fell off the deep end again. Whenever I defend a singer based on her music, I should always remember that the song "Respect Yourself," featured a video promoting bondage and sexual sado-masochistic humiliation.
Oops, I mean post #44.
Just amazing how the Bible predicts such, Christ will return when his Church no longer exists on this earth....this is just one more step in that direction.....
Yetch. I'm not going to argue that New King James is the best translation, but at least it's readable! And if you've got the Internet, you can easily enough check out the original language anyhow...
If nothing else, Fishtown is stupid. OK, suppose we are translating the bible culturally... Do you call any fishing villages, "Fishtown?" How about Fish Harbor, at least? Fishport? Bethesda?
As for Ray... I'm stumped, also. I would suggest Victor, instead... if I were one to screw with the bible, that is.
Literally, "House of fish." We start calling the state of Colorado "red" (or "ruddy," if having an offical red state is too confusing), and Utah "People of the Mountains," and Michigan "Big Sea Water", then I'll see the logic behind changing Bethsaida to "Fishtown"...
There have been legions of unknown people who have copied, faithfully, the "original" OT and NT Hebrew and Greek texts. For example, multiple copies and fragments of John's gospel are known to exist. Despite being spread out over time and space, these texts are amazingly consistent. Another example is the Dead Sea Scrolls, which are (IIRC) ~900 years older than previously-known OT documents. The differences in the texts over 900 years are minor.
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