Posted on 10/05/2005 8:08:18 PM PDT by FairOpinion
The Senate defied the White House yesterday and voted to set new limits on interrogating detainees in Iraq and elsewhere, underscoring Congress's growing concerns about reports of abuse of suspected terrorists and others in military custody.
Forty-six Republicans joined 43 Democrats and one independent in voting to define and limit interrogation techniques that U.S. troops may use against terrorism suspects, the latest sign that alarm over treatment of prisoners in the Middle East and at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, is widespread in both parties. The White House had fought to prevent the restrictions, with Vice President Cheney visiting key Republicans in July and a spokesman yesterday repeating President Bush's threat to veto the larger bill that the language is now attached to -- a $440 billion military spending measure.
But last night, 89 senators sided with Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), a former prisoner of war in Vietnam who led the fight for the interrogation restrictions.
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It's not in the House bill, it may or may not survive the conference, but even if it doesn't -- what message does this send to the terrorists, that our own US Senate can be worn down by the MSM to put the terrorists ahead of the lives of the American people.
Read the actual text, it's scary.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1497443/posts?page=103#103
Can you imagine if this had applied to the thousands of prisoners from WWII that were held in camps in the USA. Each claiming abuse, perceived or otherwise, would have access to our legal system and the right to representation in a court of law.
Get out of jail free card for terrorists?
What the heck are the Dems trying to pull with this stunt
And that "victory" of McCain's
It was an 11th hour stunt that he and Warner pulled by attaching 101 Amendments to the spending bill with no debates or letting Senator Stevens know ahead of time their plans
They knew their Bill couldn't pass on it's own .. so they slipped it into the spending bill
I didn't see the vote (family stuff)
But earlier before the vote ... you should have heard Sen Steven when they slipped this amendment into the Bill
He was HOT mad and laid into Warner big time
This whole Iraq thing and the WOT in general would be easier and wrap up a lot quicker if the people who are supposed to be working for the AMERICAN people would do exactly that instead of trying to appease some worldwide terrorist-coddling cabal.
There are some huge disappointments among those voting for this abomination, including Jim Talent and George Allen. Kit Bond, I believe, was a no vote. I think I just heard that the President has indicated he will veto it if this provision is not taken out. I hope I heard that correctly.
Hey, friend, Sessions voted no.
John McCain, Joe Biden and Hillary! Clinton. Good grief.
He won't veto the bill if only because there is probably a few billion dollars of pork tacked onto it, like $2.5 million for a tooth-fairy museum in South Dakota and $11.7 million grant to the University of W. Virginia to study nose snot.
And this is the same group of gutless wonders that some think President Bush could have counted on in a fight to get a 'proven conservative' SC nominee approved? Yeah, right.
It's not like we'd actully follow this...its just do McCain can look good along with the other what was it 93?
LOL! Good one!
This country has a death wish.
Thanks for the post and welcome.
In terms of ludicrous ideas, this is right up there LBJ making tactical decisions in Vietnam. This is certainly not a quagmire like Vietnam, but politicians and media are doing their best to make it one.
Does this mean that Jack Bauer won't be cutting off any heads in Season 5 of 24?....Not happy at all.
Bush looks rather smart picking Meirs as his supreme court nominee. Who would want this Senate fighting with them?
"And this is the same group of gutless wonders that some think President Bush could have counted on in a fight to get a 'proven conservative' SC nominee approved? Yeah, right."
Spot on! See my post #159
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