Senate Supports Interrogation Limits (90-9 vote to protect terrorist detainees)

Washington Post ^ | Oct. 6, 2005 | Charles Babington and Shailagh Murray

[varyouga]

Did the people in the towers get any protection from these gasbags in the senate? I suppose being burned, crushed or buried alive isn't "cruel and unusual" to these scumbags. I also suppose making a final choice between burning alive and jumping 100 stories is just fine and dandy. And getting a charred piece of your loved one in a test-tube is wonderful.

These clowns have clearly forgotten if this idiotic law passes with 90 yays.

President Bush was there before the dust settled. If he saw what I saw, there is no doubt he will do the right thing.

"I hear you. The whole world hears you. And the people who knocked these buildings down will hear us all soon."

"We will not tire, we will not falter, and we will not fail."

[KeepArizonaFree]

That sherriff is in Arizona.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio.

A very great man, one of the last non-pc giants in country.

Pink Underwear, plain food, and female chain gangs...

Our liberal transplants from California hate him! haha

They move from california to get away from gangs/crime, and then try to make Arizona just like the problems they left in CA. I don't get it, they are so 'stuck on stupid'.

Sherriff Joe

[FairOpinion]

Sheriff Joe Arpaio for Senator!

I bet he wouldn't have voted for this bill to coddle terrorists.

[Bush 100 Percent]

Notice how they do this when nobody is paying attention?

I, for one, will work as hard as I can AGAINST any attempt by Senator McCain AND EVERY SENATOR WHO VOTED FOR IT to run for President. Senator Allen is off of my consideration list.

Can you imagine them as CIC? It's an insult to the troops. Please the MSM and insult the troops. I'm glad to hear Rudy Guliani is thinking about getting back into politics. I hope it means he will run for Pres. Our troops deserve better than this. All those committees they have and they don't LISTEN. Did they check with the people who actually have to FIGHT THE WAR? What qualifications do the Senators have to make these decisions? It's the same thing they did before 9/11 and were let off the hook for. Our Military spends a lot of time appearing before those committees so that the Senators can make INFORMED recommendations, not claptrap like this.

Meanwhile, everyone is writing the WH about H. Miers, when they should be pounding them on this ..... Of course, if those who want H. Miers defeated get their way, Sandra Day OConnor will be the swing vote if anything related to this gets to the Supreme Court .....

[Bush 100 Percent]

FairOpinion.

Tell us what to forward to our House Reps. I am unclear as to what to highlight that they need to leave out. Is there a Bill # we should reference? Thanks.

[RasterMaster]

Thank GOD the Oklahoma delegation sticks together on the right side (damn glad Coburn stood up to McLame). After the bombing of the Murrah building and at OU last weekend, I have zero sympathy for anyone who uses terrorism as a weapon.

[varyouga]

I'm going to sleep thinking how they betrayed us and we lost the war. Even worse is how they betrayed our military and victims of terror. How did this happen with a 90 vote?

I hope you DUmmies lurking here are happy about this. You might get your wish of the USA collapsing. It won't be as pretty as you think and you might wanna stock up on ammo.

Good night guys. I'm preying for better news tomorrow. This is just too much.

[WhistlingPastTheGraveyard]

The "nays":

Allard (R-CO)
Bond (R-MO)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Roberts (R-KS)
Sessions (R-AL)
Stevens (R-AK)

John Corzine, whose state bore the brunt of the 9/11 casualties, did not vote. What a guy.

[No Longer Free State]

Thank you, you dumb shitebird, John McCain, for publishing a handbook for terrorists to resist interrogation. How incredibly stupid can you be? You failed in your test to stand up to your captors, so you'll make it infinitely easy for our enemies to do the same, won't you?

[samantha]

Joe Arpaio in Arizona.

[FairOpinion]

When writing to House Representatives, ask to make sure they strip out in Conference to reconcile the House and Senate versions of the bill the following Senate Amendment:

(The House bill passed, and this amendment is not in it)

Amendment Number: S.Amdt. 1977 to H.R. 2863 (Department of Defense Appropriations Act, 2006 ) that is on page S10909.

Statement of Purpose: Relating to persons under the detention, custody, or control of the United States Government.


LINK:

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00249


Full Text of the Amendment S. Amdt. 1077 to delete in Conference:

[Page: S10909]

"(a) In General.--No individual in the custody or under the physical control of the United States Government, regardless of nationality or physical location, shall be subject to cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment or punishment.
(b) Construction.--Nothing in this section shall be construed to impose any geographical limitation on the applicability of the prohibition against cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment or punishment under this section.

(c) Limitation on Supersedure.--The provisions of this section shall not be superseded, except by a provision of law enacted after the date of the enactment of this Act which specifically repeals, modifies, or supersedes the provisions of this section.

(d) Cruel, Inhuman, or Degrading Treatment or Punishment Defined.--In this section, the term ``cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment or punishment'' means the cruel, unusual, and inhumane treatment or punishment prohibited by the Fifth, Eighth, and Fourteenth Amendments to the Constitution of the United States, as defined in the United States Reservations, Declarations and Understandings to the United Nations Convention Against Torture and Other Forms of Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment done at New York, December 10, 1984."

[PhiKapMom]

Once again my two Oklahoma Senators came through and voted against the terrorist. Best two Senators in the Senate from any State IMHO!

[FairOpinion]

"my two Oklahoma Senators came through and voted against the terrorist."

They are true Americans, unlike the 90 who worry more about the terrorists wellbeing, than the lives of the American people.

[RasterMaster]

Ditto that...

[Da Mav]

It sounds like the Senate just decided the terrorists have the same rights as anyone else. What next? The answer to that is a right to lawyers and courts. We are one step closer to forcing the military to provide Miranda warnings.

I hope this gets quietly dropped in a Senate/House reconcilliation process.

What are these people thinking?

[alessandrofiaschi]

Yeah, who are they? 9 or 10?

[FairOpinion]

Here's a link to those who voted for / against

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00249

The only NAYS were as follows:

NAYs ---9
Allard (R-CO)
Bond (R-MO)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Roberts (R-KS)
Sessions (R-AL)
Stevens (R-AK)

Also see post 37 for the actual text of the amendment -- read it and weep.



http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1497443/posts?page=37#37

[RedCell]

Amen! We, too, had a homecoming for one of our neighbors this past weekend. Rock solid conviction to the core, this man.

These senators? The conviction of 90 of them put together wouldn't fill a thimble.

[lawdog]

Memo to U.S. troops...DEAD terrorists aren't prisoners...carry on...

[newzjunkey]

Perhaps I'm mistaken after reading the Post's article but this amendment vote is ultimately just symbolic. Did the House pass something similar? WILL the House post something similar? Is this likely to survive conference committee?

Of course, the most important thing is this: does anyone actually believe Bush would make good on a veto threat after the transportation bill?