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According to a blog I read, his beard was a new one and in the style of a new Muslim convert. Can anybody else verify this?
1 posted on 10/03/2005 1:06:21 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana
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To: hispanarepublicana

Nothing like that in local reports.

Initial reaction from his family here >>>

http://www.gazette.com/display.php?id=1310934&secid=1


2 posted on 10/03/2005 1:09:02 PM PDT by WestTexasWend
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Investigators would not say whether they believe Hinrichs intended to go inside the stadium before the detonation happened.

As if figuring that out is rocket science.

3 posted on 10/03/2005 1:10:28 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam Factoid:After forcing young girls to watch his men execute their fathers, Muhammad raped them.)
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PING, and here's an interesting tidbit on the blackout I copied and pasted from a blog:
We Aren't Getting the Full Story on the OU Football "Suicide Bomber"

Posted by Mark Tapscott on October 3, 2005 - 15:42.

University of Oklahoma President David Boren seems determined to have everybody believe Joel Henry Hinrichs III was merely a disturbed young man who decided to commit suicide by blowing himself up within 100 yards of a stadium containing 84,000 screaming fans of Sooner football.

Sorry, I don't buy it, at least not yet. Here's why: First, The Daily Oklahoman is reporting authorities found a large cache of bomb-making materials in Hinrichs' apartment. The cache is so big that the Oklahoman quoted one of the officials on the scene as estimating a full 24 hours would be required to cart away all of the material.

Suicide victims don't normally accumulate a large amount of bomb-making material in their homes. People intent on blowing up other people do.

Second, the proximity to the stadium suggests Hinrichs' target was the crowd, perhaps as people were leaving the game. But being an OU student, he presumably would have access to the student seating section and could have gone from that area to anywhere else in the crowd he chose.

What better place to detonate a bomb guaranteed to both kill and maim many, as well as incite terror and possibly a stampede that would kill and injure more people? My guess is Hinrichs was kept from reaching his target by a premature detonation. Add the proximty of the Micro-Biology building and you may have the potential for a kind of bio-bomb that could have guaranteed utter chaos in and around the stadium.

Third, why was Boren sufficiently familiar with Hinrichs to so quickly issue an opinion about his motive in the bombing? When he resigned in November 1994 as a senator, Boren was chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence. He left the Senate just as the Democrats lost their majority in the GOP sweep of 1994.

Add to his Senate years the presence of an active and long-established Muslim student presence on the OU campus stemming from the school's excellent Petroleum Engineering program, and it stands to reason that Boren has been privy to intelligence briefing as head of the school. Is that how he knew of Hinrichs?

Fourth, Hinrichs appears to have a fresh beard, which is characteristic of new Muslim male converts. His father told The Oklahoman his son was a quiet, intellectual type, but he had no idea what might have incited him to take his own life. We can only assume the father also didn't know of the bomb-making material in his son's apartment. Perhaps we are dealing with a recent or a secret convert?

Finally, if Hinrichs was just a disturbed guy who decided to kill himself with a bomb 100 yards from a crowd of 84,000 people instead of simply putting a bullet through his temple, slashing his wrists or some other traditional way of doing away with oneself, why is the FBI and the Joint Terrorism Task Force now the lead agency in the investigation?

4 posted on 10/03/2005 1:11:06 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (No amnesty needed...My ancestors proudly served. [remodel of an old '70s bumper sticker])
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I can't wait to find out all the facts of this story. Just hope the MSM doesn't try to bury it because it may look bad for their new best friends, the Islamists.


6 posted on 10/03/2005 1:14:15 PM PDT by somedaysoon
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He may not have intended to kill himself, radio waves could have set off his devise before he could get it into place


7 posted on 10/03/2005 1:16:05 PM PDT by zipp_city
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Officials said Hinrichs' motive for blowing himself up Saturday near the Gaylord Family - Oklahoma Memorial Stadium during the second quarter of OU's game against Kansas State remains under investigation.

Saturday? I haven't seen ANYTHING about this in my local paper yet.

8 posted on 10/03/2005 1:16:05 PM PDT by Hyzenthlay (Don't forget your towel!)
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lol we posted this story, originally from 1:00 am, at exactly the same time over 15 hours later. Mine was pulled!

The Mods always liked you better anyway. "why can't you be more like hispanarepublicana" they would say. No wonder I have a complex!


13 posted on 10/03/2005 1:20:21 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (Relying on the MSM for news is like using suppositories for recreational purposes.)
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Mighty suspicious......

Of course, maybe he simply couldn't face the possibility of losing to Texas next week.

Regardless, we are very fortunate that he prematurely detonated. Could have killed a lot of people.

15 posted on 10/03/2005 1:21:21 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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The silence on the national news front is more deafening than the explosion.

Instead of headlines, a few local outlets are exclusively covering a story that is clearly of tremendous national interest.

If I ever doubted there was some sort of nationwide control over media coverage, those doubts have vanished in light of what I am witnessing in this case.

Stunning. Absolutely stunning.


16 posted on 10/03/2005 1:21:44 PM PDT by Majic (Science is applied philosophy.)
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Freepmail


25 posted on 10/03/2005 1:28:28 PM PDT by Peach (Go Yankees!)
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WorldNetDaily has its own agenda. Take this article with more than a grain of


35 posted on 10/03/2005 1:35:19 PM PDT by sono
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From a site for pious muslims, via google, (Hair, According to Quran and Sunnah, at: http://muttaqun.com/hair.html)

* Do not pluck grey hairs [dyeing is recommended]
* Get rid of those braid extensions and hair pieces!
* Clip the moustache and nails, etc, within 40 days
* Women should not put all her hair up on the top of her haid like a camel hump. She may put it up at home as long as some hair lays on her neck still, but not when leaving the house in hijab where the hump can be seen to be under the hijab and drawing attention to her hair.
* While doing salah [prayers], a man should not have his hair braided or pulled back in a knot
* Comb your hair from the right side first
* Destroy your clipped nails and hair after cutting it by collecting it and burying it. It is not a sin if you don't destroy your hair, but it is preferable.
* A woman should not have a hairstyle that resembles a man's hairstyle.
* Do not imitate the hair styles or colors of the Jews and Christians; do the opposite!

50 posted on 10/03/2005 1:49:32 PM PDT by yatros from flatwater
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He was probably going to shoot it inside the stadium but forgot to buy a ticket.


53 posted on 10/03/2005 1:58:21 PM PDT by Busywhiskers ("...moral principle, the sine qua non of an orderly society." --Judge Edith H. Jones)
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My guess is Hinrichs was kept from reaching his target by a premature detonation.

Sheep hate this.

54 posted on 10/03/2005 1:58:41 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (When a Jihadist dies, an angel gets its wings)
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I'm glad he blew up when he did. The idiot. I have no sympathy for him. He should have used a rope.
65 posted on 10/03/2005 2:19:21 PM PDT by Dallas59 (“You love life, while we love death.” - Al-Qaeda / Democratic Party)
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As posted on an OU fan site I subscribe to. I can't verify the accuracy but it is very interesting.



Start

I now know that the homicide bomber did try and get into Oklahoma Stadium, he was turned away because no knapsacks are allowed. He then proceeded to the quietess area of little or no traffic he could find, the buses obscured him partially and he apparently did not see anyone actually on the bus. The bus driver saw this entire event.

The reason he was on the bench was to remove the explosives from his bag and was in the process of strapping the explosives on his person when the bomb went off.

The second explosion that occurred was the police blowing up his knapsack. I was curious why there was an unattended knapsack in that area.

There seems to be no question he was intent on killing us, not himself.

The apartment complex he lived in houses a large muslim population and if you saw todays picture of him, he he was sporting a beard, no mustache.

Impeccable source on this info.

END


Decide for yourself. Suicide or botched terrorist attack?


70 posted on 10/03/2005 2:55:40 PM PDT by WildWeasel
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Saw this linked on another thread. From timebomb, a resident of Norman who has info from a friend inside the LE says that Hinrichs had a ME roommate -- maybe it's a clue, maybe not.

Just posting the link, it's post 222 at

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?t=170283&page=6&pp=40


86 posted on 10/03/2005 3:44:58 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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He also lived across the street from the Islamic society of Norman Oklahoma...

Let's review

Bali bombing.....start of Ramadan.....large crowd.....islamic material in the apartment....

Nothing to see here folks.....move along!!


103 posted on 10/03/2005 5:41:22 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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Great thread. Thanks. New Media bump! Once FReepers are everywhere the propagandists are history.

Lurkers - the times they are a changin (for the better). People all over the world join in...

126 posted on 10/03/2005 6:48:32 PM PDT by PGalt
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OU President David Boren said Hinrichs was a student "who had very, serious personal problems that led to this tragic death."

Rrrrrrrrrrrriiighttttttttt....;^/

So, according to President Boren, associating with foreign religious fanatics and allowing oneself to become their human bomb is a "serious personal problem." Hmmmmmmmm.

330 posted on 10/04/2005 2:28:04 PM PDT by EverOnward
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