Posted on 09/30/2005 11:20:25 AM PDT by NormB
Estimates of the numbers of gays in the priesthood vary from 25 percent to 50 percent. About one-third of the 42,500 U.S. priests are members of religious orders.
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what does priests being allowed to marry, have to do with the problem of gay priests being unfaithful to their vows?
he hated esau...
As Thomas points out: "Nothing prevents one and the same thing being loved under one aspect, while it is hated under another. God loves sinners in so far as they are existing natures; for they have existence and have it from Him. In so far as they are sinners, they have not existence at all, but fall short of it; and this in them is not from God. Hence under this aspect, they are hated by Him."
"Jesuit Official Rips Expected Ban on Gays"
Ex-Jesuit Official Rips Expected Ban on Gays?
LOL, nothing. Just another issue to ponder.
IMHO, great responses, intelligent and eloquent.
The ones who have strong tendencies toward gay sex are gay or bisexual, whether they have acted on these tendencies or not. A totally heterosexual person is not sexually aroused by members of his or her own sex.
Most FR people reported their churches are full -- the articles were concerning churches in the north east and particularly in canada and europe which are a lot of churches. other articles for about a decade have cited Catholic and mainline denominational churches as having a clergy crisis hensce these moves to accept lower and lower cuts of priests to fill vacant posts.
Thank you for saying that. In truth there is no such thing as a 'homosexual' there are only mentally ill/damaged heterosexuals who are acting against their own nature
Heterosexuality is the default or normal state of human sexual nature. "Homosexuality" is a mental disease evidenced only by the act of practicing same sex behavior. If someone never commits the act of homosexual behavior then they are not a 'homosexual'. Only the act gives definition to the disease
If he's a 'homosexual' or 'homosexual' enabler then for the sake of our children he must be considered a child molestor also. The statistics are such that the two are inseparable
The Pope is looking from the viewpoint of 2,000 years of history, a box much bigger than ours that is confined to the present.
Within the above context, this problem and solution may be quite a bit smaller than we can see, a blip in the history of the Church.
This Pope will do what is best for Jesus, His Father and His Church.
ping
Why would you align yourself with sin instead of with Christ. That's like saying I'm a atheist Christian.
I deplore Homosexuality in the Church, but I take issue with your implication that Luther is the Devil!
Question: If Luther is the Devil for breaking away, (which he never advocated by the way) then what does that make the Roman Church for causing a schism and breaking away from Holy Orthodoxy in 1054?
To paraphrase, I think he'll find his arms are too short to box with the Pope.
I can't dispute numbers... but I think is high. But of course for me 10% is HIGH!
the QUESTION IS WHY.........?
(a)Good access to children and boys? (b)Agenda?
Probably both!
This case is probably not an isolated exception: link
If you're right then it very well could be MORE than 50%.. not less.. If the sampling is wrong..
Sincerely,
Black Elk
Wahabbi Catholic and proud of it.
The Jesuits are asking to be suppressed, alright.
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