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I saw a very sobering episode of Nightline yesterday, and I know it's "Nightline", but the doctor from Minnesota who is basically spearheading our response to this issue basically said that we can limit our exposure to the virus here, but it's going to affect the whole world because international commerce would literally come to a screeching halt. As he put it, it would be up to every country for themself to manage the flu in their own countries.

He also added that there is simply no way to produce enough of a given vaccine in this country because the facilities are in other countries, and that something as mundane as a protective mask would run short since they're not manufactured here and we would have closed out ports.

Not a pretty picture.

1 posted on 09/30/2005 9:26:53 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: Rutles4Ever

We should isolate the area, no flghts or people can come visit us here.


2 posted on 09/30/2005 9:28:18 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: Rutles4Ever

Very interesting post. FReepers would be well advised to remember the Spanish Flu outbreak from the early 1900s which killed millions. Here's a chance for the Bush Admin to get out ahead of a emergency. Think they'll do it??


3 posted on 09/30/2005 9:30:00 AM PDT by JeeperFreeper
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To: Rutles4Ever

Again, are we being set up by Washington complacency again??


4 posted on 09/30/2005 9:30:07 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Rutles4Ever

"because the facilities are in other countries"

Thank our trial lawyers for that one.

Of course when we can't come up w/ enough vaccine, the blame will be layed at the feet of the gvt (particularly if pubs are in power then).

And the answer: Spend more gvt money in one way or another, of course.


5 posted on 09/30/2005 9:30:10 AM PDT by Pessimist
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To: Rutles4Ever; Judith Anne
Bump to get this on the Asian Flu Preparedness ping list.

So far there are several sources now saying Tamiflu is not the answer.

6 posted on 09/30/2005 9:32:25 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Rutles4Ever

I haven't really been following this whole bird flu thing so far. Anybody know what the mortaility rate is?


7 posted on 09/30/2005 9:32:27 AM PDT by Pessimist
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To: Rutles4Ever
There is a bill in congress right now to apropriate billions to buy a stockpile of Tamiflu.
If is isn't gonna work ..........

So9

8 posted on 09/30/2005 9:33:58 AM PDT by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: Rutles4Ever; Mother Abigail; Judith Anne; bitt

Ping


14 posted on 09/30/2005 9:49:06 AM PDT by 2ndreconmarine (I've had a bad day at work. I'm in a bad mood. Time to stomp on a creationist.)
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To: Rutles4Ever
Bird flu?

Perhaps a vaccine could be developed by some chicken shot outfit.

20 posted on 09/30/2005 10:13:03 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.)
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To: Rutles4Ever

So, National Healthcare in Japan is contributing to viral resistance that puts the planet at risk? Hmmmmm...but I thought that national care was supposed to be sooooo much better than a private system! /sar.


40 posted on 09/30/2005 10:45:21 AM PDT by Wiseghy (Discontent is the want of self-reliance: it is infirmity of will. – Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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To: Rutles4Ever

This will fail to topple the human race much like aids will fail. The alien "Greys" are't as smart as they think...


44 posted on 09/30/2005 10:57:56 AM PDT by Moleman
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To: Rutles4Ever
I have been stocking up on Therapuetic grade Essential Oils, to help with the cold and flu season as well as this bird flu thing. I don't believe in drugs and vaccines, and I believe we are setting ourselves up for a heartbreaking reality if that is all the American People have to fight this deadly flu. Here is a link to an article I wrote on the Flu in general. These simple steps will help anyone strengthen the immune system ... Flu Article
52 posted on 09/30/2005 11:41:49 AM PDT by Jenny Hatch (Go Iraq Go!)
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To: Rutles4Ever
I saw the same Nightline and things do not look promising.

The question remains will Tamiflu function to either prevent or treat Avian Flu in the U.S. or Canada if this thing does not mutate?

53 posted on 09/30/2005 11:50:59 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: Rutles4Ever
This news item from the London Times:

British flu pandemic 'will kill 50,000' (9-3-05)

"Health authorities believe that if the bird flu virus mutates in Asia and cases start spreading, Britain will only have weeks - if not days - to prepare."

"Travel restrictions, airport screening and other strategies would be of little use to stop cases multiplying rapidly, according to statistical models carried out by the Health Protection Agency."

55 posted on 09/30/2005 12:07:28 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: Rutles4Ever
THIS ARTICLE HAS A SCIENTIFIC PROBLEM. THE AUTHOR SHOULD BE FLOGGED

While I do not dispute the finding the Thamiflu (R) is not effective for the Asian Bird Flu, H5N1, the article tries to link this fact to the the gerneral resitance of Thamiflu built up in the regual flu. The two are completely independent. The bird flu "in the human population" has not had a chance to build up a "resistance" to the drug."

What the scientist was talking about was just a pure ineffectiveness of Thamiflu on bird flu - not resistance. And the journalist screwed up the article. As for finding that Thamiflu is ineffective, it would not be suprizing, since Thamiflu only reduces the duration of the symptoms of the regular flu by only one day, and it has to be taken within 40 of onset of symptoms just for tat small beenfit. BTW 40 hrs is way too late for H1N5. its too fast for Thanmiflu IMO. To my knowledge, there has previously been no data on Thamiflu on H1N5, so people were just hyping the issue up that this drug would save everyone. I suspect this is the REAL, SCIENTIFICALLY BASED REASON, why the US govt. did not stock up on 200 million courses. Of course, people are lightning fast to slam the administration to say they were off the ball on this issue.

65 posted on 09/30/2005 1:49:27 PM PDT by right-wingin_It
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To: KylaStarr; Cindy; StillProud2BeFree; nw_arizona_granny; Velveeta; Dolphy; appalachian_dweller; ...

Birds ping


70 posted on 10/01/2005 8:21:18 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; flutters; genefromjersey; Rutles4Ever
ping
72 posted on 10/01/2005 8:56:15 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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