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First All-female Crew Flies Combat Mission
Defend America News ^ | Sep 27, 2005 | Air Force Capt. Michael G. Johnson

Posted on 09/27/2005 6:43:52 PM PDT by SandRat

Photo, caption below.
From left to right, Staff Sgt. Josie E. Harshe, flight engineer; Capt. Anita T. Mack, navigator; 1st Lt. Siobhan Couturier, pilot; Capt. Carol J. Mitchell, aircraft commander; and loadmasters Tech. Sgt. Sigrid M. Carrero-Perez and Senior Airman Ci Ci Alonzo, pause in the cargo bay of their C-130 for a group photo following their historic flight. U.S. Air Force photo
First All-female Crew Flies Combat Mission
A crew of six Airmen at a forward deployed location climbed aboard a
C-130 Hercules together recently for the first time
By U.S. Air Force Capt. Michael G. Johnson
386th Air Expeditionary Wing Public Affairs
SOUTHWEST ASIA, Sept. 27, 2005 -- A crew of six Airmen at a forward deployed location climbed aboard a C-130 Hercules together recently for the first time in their careers. But something distinguished this mission from others they had flown --it was the first time an all-female C-130 crew flew a combat mission.

Capt. Carol Mitchell, aircraft commander; 1st Lt. Siobhan Couturier, pilot; Capt. Anita T. Mack, navigator; Staff Sgt. Josie E. Harshe, flight engineer; and loadmasters Tech. Sgt. Sigrid M. Carrero-Perez and Senior Airman Ci Ci Alonzo are all permanently assigned to the 43rd Airlift Wing at Pope Air Force Base, N.C., and currently are deployed to the 737th Expeditionary Airlift Squadron flying cargo and troops in and out of Iraq, Afghanistan and the Horn of Africa.

"It was a great experience not many females can say they've had, however I don't believe the Air Force should seek out all-female crews -- instead, we should focus on experience."
U.S. Air Force Senior Airman Ci Ci Alonzo

While some would call their mission "historic," they feel this mission should be recognized like every other flight -- a successful combat mission.

"I enjoyed flying with this crew, but I don't think we should go out of our way to have all-female crews," said Captain Mitchell. "It took a long time for women to become accepted as aircrew members, and now that we are, we would be taking a step back by singling ourselves out rather than blending in with the rest of the Air Force."

Airman Alonzo agrees. "It was a great experience not many females can say they've had," she said. "However I don't believe the Air Force should seek out all-female crews -- instead, we should focus on experience."

"The Air Force) should have the best crews they can put together. Nothing other than qualification and ability should be considered," said Captain Mack.

Not only did this all female crew fly together for the first time, 6,800 miles from home-station, but they flew the mission on a Vietnam-era airplane -- a significance the crew did not miss.

"Our (aircraft) was a 1962 model. (It) came off the line when women weren't accepted as C-130 aircrew, let alone in combat," said Sergeant Harshe.

After the excitement of this all-female C-130 crew flying the first combat mission together wore off, they focused on what really mattered.

"What matters is) knowing we're making a difference and seeing it with every mission we fly," said Airman Alonzo. "It's also) moving troops into the theater where they're needed, seeing the excitement and relief on the faces of the guys and gals we take out of theater who have been there for six months to a year and are on their way home to their loved ones."

During the mission, the crew transported 151 Marines and their equipment.

Another thing they all agreed upon, the mission was a true experience.

"It was a fun thing to be able to say you did, if only once. Not that it is better, this was just different, and probably won't happen for us again anytime soon just because of the sheer numbers," said Sergeant Harshe.

Captain Mitchell said one additional benefit of this all female flight was gaining a different perspective.

"One way to avoid (complacency) is to mix the crews up a little, fly with some different people to get a different perspective," she said. "And what better way to mix the crews up than by putting all the girls on the same crew?"

While the all-female crew did accomplish a unique milestone together, they point out that the significance of their mission success is that every crewmember achieved personal goals to get there.

"I encourage any girl or woman to do what she wants. Too often I hear people say they can't do something (but it is) because they don't realize they have the opportunity," Captain Mack said. "I would tell any person flying is an attainable goal for anyone who wants to work for it. As they say, you are only limited in what you can do by what you can dream."



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airmen; allfemale; c130; combat; crew; first; flies; iraq; militarywomen; mission; oif; usaf
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To: SandRat
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41 posted on 09/27/2005 7:49:51 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: SandRat

Thanks to every one who serves.


42 posted on 09/27/2005 7:54:34 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: SandRat
however I don't believe the Air Force should seek out all-female crews -- instead, we should focus on experience."

And the mission ...

43 posted on 09/27/2005 7:56:22 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: swheats

I just knew that someone would go into the gutter on this thread!


44 posted on 09/27/2005 7:56:41 PM PDT by montomike (Gay means happy and carefree...not an abomination against nature's check valve.)
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To: konaice
Ah, I hate to say it, but this was a transport mission in an unarmed plane.

The plane may not be armed but the crew sure looks like they're packin 9's.

45 posted on 09/27/2005 8:12:21 PM PDT by WideGlide (That light at the end of the tunnel might be a muzzle flash.)
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To: cynicom
Combat mission???? How heavy and sustained was the flak???

And how many combat missions do you have. No airfield, let alone some remote landing strip, is completely safe to fly into. The bad guys have RPGs, mortars, and even a few MANPAD SAMS.

But even that is not the point. Anytime you fly into, out of, or within, a combat zone, it's a combat mission.

This may have been the first all female C-130 crew, but I ran into an all female crew 20 years ago, in the Transit Billeting office at the old Carswell AFB. Trouble is I can't remember what kind of aircraft they were flying. C-141 or maybe KC-135, I just can't recall. It's called getting old.

46 posted on 09/27/2005 9:13:53 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: konaice
Ah, I hate to say it, but this was a transport mission in an unarmed plane. Not a combat mission

So an RF-4 flying over North Vietnam wasn't a combat mission either? They weren't armed, nor were SR-71s and U-2s. Doesn't mean they didn't get shot at. Just as this crew had no assurance that they wouldn't get shot at.

Those pistols on their thighs aren't just for show either. If they RON, which they likely do, they are for self defense should the Jihadies decide that is the night to attack whatever passes for Transient Billeting.

47 posted on 09/27/2005 9:18:19 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: somemoreequalthanothers
You RUINED the P.C. story of the week!

They didn't say it was the first all female flight crew, not even the first Air Force one. Just the first C-130 crew. IIRC, the COD has a much smaller crew, being a smaller aircraft, so the chances of getting an all female crew is much higher.

48 posted on 09/27/2005 9:25:21 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: SandRat
Doesn't Staff Sgt.Harshe remind y'all a bit of Lt. Tasha Yar?


49 posted on 09/27/2005 9:29:14 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
151 Marines (combat-equipped!) in ONE C-130?

They definitely were crowded in there. The specs at Global Security and the Air Force Factsheet say the capacity is 92 ground troops. Possibly a typo. Maybe 101 or just 51, or perhaps it was two sorties.

50 posted on 09/27/2005 9:36:50 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: El Gato

Ya know,........ she does.


51 posted on 09/27/2005 9:38:28 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat
Kudos to a bunch of fliers that got the job done!

Thank you, ladies.

52 posted on 09/27/2005 9:38:31 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: SandRat
During the mission, the crew transported 151 Marines and their equipment.

Now that is the story behind the story!

Don't you know that Sr. Airman caught heck with the
Stewardess comments.

53 posted on 09/27/2005 10:06:42 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: Ax
there weren't too many ladies rooms aboard the Herky Bird.

Yeah, they had that little funnel right out in the open
didn't they?

54 posted on 09/27/2005 10:21:20 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: WideGlide
The plane may not be armed but the crew sure looks like they're packin 9's.

With 130 marines on board they may have needed em.

55 posted on 09/27/2005 10:25:01 PM PDT by konaice
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To: montomike

montomike it's unfortunate you think a natural experience that women go through is gutter talk.

Wash your thinking man.


56 posted on 09/27/2005 10:57:04 PM PDT by swheats
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To: SandRat

Leave it to the AirFarce for PCBS!

M I the only one who sees what’s wrong with this?
Sure it’s fine when it all goes right But...

"We are Ditching! Ditching! Ditching!"
http://www.vpnavy.org/vp9586.html

I’ve said it before here so I won’t retype it.

Navy Women Head to the Sick Bay Much More Than the Men
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a78fc3b6e1e.htm

Read 5 and my 32

I’m sure that these are fine woman. And this is shown by there comments on this. But there should be a few men around to help out when some heavy work need to be done.


57 posted on 09/27/2005 11:53:14 PM PDT by quietolong
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To: zipper
...she got really drunk, passed out, and later spent the entire night puking her guts out.

If I had a dollar for every time I did that in the past, I am sure I would have enough to go out and to it again -- at least twice!

58 posted on 09/28/2005 12:30:38 AM PDT by Ronin (When the fox gnaws.... SMILE!!!)
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To: higgmeister

They have a urinal that's fixed in position, and a toilet that has to be lowered (a pain to do). The urinal drain goes right out the side of the airplane (that way you can say you "pissed on" whatever country you were flying over. The toilet is self-contained with a plastic liner. Once the toilet is down, there's a curtain that can be pulled around it like a shower curtain-- but in this case I guess this crew didn't bother with that part!


59 posted on 09/28/2005 12:53:43 AM PDT by zipper (Freedom Isn't Free)
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To: Publius6961
Kudos to a bunch of fliers that got the job done! Thank you, ladies.

I second that.

60 posted on 09/28/2005 12:56:09 AM PDT by Paul_Denton (U.N. out of the U.S. and U.S. out of the U.N.! My gun has killed less people than Ted Kennedy's Car)
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