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Men's Temper Tantrums That Bother Women May Be Sex Discrimination (9th Circuit Strikes Again)
ASAP Newsletter ^ | September 2005 | Margaret Hart Edwards

Posted on 09/23/2005 12:38:17 PM PDT by Help!

Screaming and yelling by men at work may now be sex-based discrimination if women at work find the behavior more intimidating than men do.

On September 2, 2005, in E.E.O.C. v. National Education Association, (No. 04-35029), the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that the “reasonable woman” standard applies to workplace abusive conduct, even if there is no sexual content to the behavior.

This decision significantly expands the types of behaviors that may furnish a basis for a claim of discrimination.

Three women working for a labor union, the National Education Association, sued for gender discrimination claiming that the NEA created a sex-based hostile work environment for them through the conduct of an interim assistant executive director who frequently “screamed” at female employees in a loud and profane manner, with little or no provocation, shook his fists at them, stood behind an employee as she worked, and lunged across the table at another.

The conduct was not sexual, nor was it marked by sexual language, gender-specific words, sexual stereotypes, or sexual overtures.

While there was evidence that the same director raised his voice with men on occasion, and once frightened a male subordinate, male employees seemed to deal with that abuse with banter, and did not express the same fear of the director, did not cry, become panicked or feel physically threatened, avoid contact with the director, call the police, or ultimately resign, as did one woman.

The claims of the three women and the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) were dismissed on summary judgment by the Alaska District Court.

The plaintiffs appealed to the Ninth Circuit. The Ninth Circuit ruled that the district court committed error when it said that there must be behavior of a sexual nature or the motive for the behavior must be animus towards members of one sex to be sex-based discrimination.

The Ninth Circuit said, “There is no legal requirement that hostile acts be overtly sex- or gender-specific in content, whether marked by language, by sex or gender stereotypes, or by sexual overtures.” The real question, the court said, is whether the behavior affected women more adversely than it affected men. This question can be analyzed two ways:

• Is the effect of the behavior qualitatively different, and • Is the amount of the behavior quantitatively different.

Different Effects of Abusive Conduct on Women and Men Equals Disparate Treatment

Under the “reasonable woman” standard devised in an earlier case, Ellison v. Brady, 924 F.2d 872 (9th Cir. 1991), the qualitative differences in the subjective and objective effects of the behavior are the way to determine whether men and women were treated differently. Because women found the behavior subjectively more intimidating than men did, and reasonable women would do so, the conduct treats women differently.

That it may not have been the director’s intent to treat women differently does not matter. What matters is the effect of the behavior, both subjectively, and objectively. While the court did not clearly differentiate the subjective from the objective, it took the extremity of the reactions of the plaintiffs to the director’s behavior as evidence that the behavior was objectively more intimidating to women.

One woman resigned; another filed a police report, a third did not put in for payment of overtime she worked because she was “too scared.”

Different Amounts of Abusive Conduct Directed at Men and Women May Equal Disparate Treatment

The quantitative difference turns on whether women were more frequently exposed to the abusive behavior than men. The NEA pointed out that as a teachers’ union, most of its employees were women, and women had more contact with the particular director.

This argument did not prevail, because, as other courts have ruled, an unbalanced distribution of the sexes and the fact that some men were harassed, does not defeat a showing of differential treatment.

The court did not say how many instances of abusive treatment would be enough, reserving that as a question for the jury. It did say that it was possible that in some cases quantitative differences in abusive treatment of men and women could be too slight to survive summary judgment.

Significant Expansion of the Law

This decision is a significant extension of the law of gender-based discrimination because it takes facially neutral, if undesirable, behaviors, and looks at how they differently affect women.

Previous cases, such as Ellison, and Steiner v. Showboat Operating Co., 25 F.3d 1459 (9th Cir. 1994) had involved behavior that had obviously sexual content. In Ellison, a male employee relentlessly pursued a female employee he wanted to date. In Steiner, a crude casino pit boss used sexual epithets, and explicit references to women’s bodies and sexual conduct.

In the NEA case, the court expanded the same model of legal analysis to conduct that was simply abusive, but without the sexual content. With this expansion employers can now expect to see allegations of the kind in the NEA case show up in more discrimination and harassment cases.

This case means that when employers permit abusive behavior in the workplace, their toleration carries a higher risk. If the abusive behavior will be actually and reasonably perceived as disadvantageous by women, the behavior may be discrimination.

There is no theoretical reason why the standard set in this case could not be further extended to race or other forms of discrimination.

Finally, the court’s logic raises the question of whether the case would have come out the same way if the director engaging in the abusive behavior was a woman. Given one of the Ninth Circuit’ remarks, perhaps not. The court said, “this case illustrates an alternative motivational theory in which an abusive bully takes advantage of a traditionally female workplace because he is more comfortable when bullying women than when bullying men.”

Practical Prevention Steps

As a practical matter, this decision suggests that employers should take the following steps to prevent claims like those of the plaintiffs in this case, by doing the following:

1. Take firm disciplinary action against abusive workplace behavior, and document the disciplinary action. Termination of repeat offenders may be necessary to avoid potential liability.

2. Adopt workplace policies that prohibit abusive, bullying behavior, and enforce the policies.

3. Make sure that discrimination prevention training includes the concept that abusive conduct that is not gender-specific could be gender-based discrimination, if the conduct has a subjectively and objectively more adverse effect on women.

Margaret Hart Edwards is a shareholder in Littler Mendelson's San Francisco office. If you would like further information, please contact your Littler attorney at 1.888.Littler, info@littler.com or Ms. Edwards at mhedwards@littler.com.

ASAPTM is published by Littler Mendelson in order to review the latest developments in employment law. ASAPTM is designed to provide accurate and informative information and should not be considered legal advice. © 2005 Littler Mendelson. All rights reserved.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: eeoc; lawsuit; looneylefties; lunacy; nea; ninthcircus; sexdiscrimination; workplace
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To: My2Cents

Screaming and yelling by men at work
I agree it shouldn't be sexual discrimination or harrassment, but anyone who yells and screams at coworkers, or the people they supervise, should be canned on the spot.""

Did the article say that the yelling was at coworkers? Or just yelling? If just yelling, and not at someone in particular, this seems like a way over the edge of reasonable to me. I yell at myself all the time when I do something that causes more work, etc.


221 posted on 09/23/2005 7:42:09 PM PDT by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: ridesthemiles

I said I didn't agree with the court decision. My comment was a sidebar, simply stating that people, whomever it is, that flies into fits of anger and rage at fellow-workers, should be canned. Obviously I've touched a nerve, considering the grief I've gotten from some on this thread. It makes me think they may be perpetrators of hostile working environments themselves.


222 posted on 09/23/2005 7:44:36 PM PDT by My2Cents (The political battles of our day are battles over morality, between the haves and the have nots.)
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To: My2Cents

Totally agree. A sexual harassment charge is wrong for this conduct, but it doesn't make it right. There's better ways to handle it- I used to have a boss who seemed to "get his jollies" by screaming at and intimidating the workers, on an almost daily basis regardless of if they did anything wrong or not. I happened to be working at the office on a day that the boss's wife stopped in to visit her husband. The phone rang, I answered it, it was the boss's mistress. Somehow, I "accidentally" forgot office-protocol and yelled across the room "Mr. (blank), Julie's on line one for you!". For the next 10 minutes, all I heard was the wife screaming and yelling "Who's Julie??!! That's it!!". Needless to say, it was my last day working there, but I was so proud of the way I went out.


223 posted on 09/23/2005 7:47:43 PM PDT by richmwill
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To: Born in a Rage
If so, were you frightened that she was going to beat you up?

Years ago, I had a female manager, who I knew to be a brown belt in judo, threaten to beat the crap out of me. She said this half jokingly. I think she was on a power trip and wanted to see if she could intimidate me

My response to her was that I would treat a female martial artist who initiated violence exactly the same as I would treat a man who initiated violence against me -- namely that I would pick up the nearest chair and smash it across her face.

She was somewhat taken aback, and did not threaten me again

224 posted on 09/23/2005 7:50:28 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Never try to teach a pig to sing -- it wastes your time and it annoys the pig)
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To: Constitution Day

Congress should defund the 9th circuit. It is an absolute joke.


225 posted on 09/23/2005 8:01:15 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter (E)
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To: SauronOfMordor
How much you want to be that the real reason for this lawsuit is a bunch of feminist women at the NEA wanting to tilt the playing field so that no male executive can ever dare to attempt to discipline a female subordinate?

You don't think that what they really want is to win enough money to be able to quit their jobs and post on DU all day?

226 posted on 09/23/2005 8:03:36 PM PDT by freespirited
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To: Help!
Because women found the behavior subjectively more intimidating than men did, and reasonable women would do so, the conduct treats women differently.

The fact that they may REACT differently, does not mean they were treated differently.

227 posted on 09/23/2005 8:12:31 PM PDT by knuthom
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To: dighton

LOL! Too easy.


228 posted on 09/23/2005 8:13:44 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: SauronOfMordor
Years ago, I had a female manager, who I knew to be a brown belt in judo, threaten to beat the crap out of me. She said this half jokingly. I think she was on a power trip and wanted to see if she could intimidate me My response to her was that I would treat a female martial artist who initiated violence exactly the same as I would treat a man who initiated violence against me -- namely that I would pick up the nearest chair and smash it across her face. She was somewhat taken aback, and did not threaten me again

If she was joking around, like you said, I think it was rather crude of you to tell her you were going to smash a chair across her face. You were the one who was being threatening in that situation, not her.

229 posted on 09/23/2005 9:05:15 PM PDT by Born in a Rage
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To: MayflowerMadam
I worked for a guy once who threw a sandwich at his secretary because there was/wasn't (can't remember) mayonnaise on it.

And I'd bet he wouldn't have thrown it at another guy. Intimidation in an office (or any work area) can be more than sexual. Last year, some guy threatened to ram his truck into my car when I and 4 kids were in it (he said I 'took' his parking spot, which I didn't). My husband said he wouldn't have done that if he were in the car with me...and it's true. Some guys get off on scaring women.

230 posted on 09/23/2005 9:16:26 PM PDT by Born in a Rage
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To: Help!
If you can't stand the heat, go back to the kitchen! Whining hysteric cowards...
231 posted on 09/23/2005 9:18:29 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: mhking

holy crap... there is no end to their foolishness, is there?


232 posted on 09/23/2005 9:55:25 PM PDT by King Prout (19sep05 - I want at least 2 Saiga-12 shotguns. If you have leads, let me know)
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To: Help!; MeekOneGOP; potlatch; ntnychik; devolve; Boazo; OXENinFLA; Grampa Dave; Lady Jag; ...



233 posted on 09/23/2005 10:18:04 PM PDT by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: tuliptree76

This pic is hillarious...


234 posted on 09/23/2005 10:38:50 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Army Air Corps

Thanks. I needed the laugh right now.


235 posted on 09/23/2005 10:44:17 PM PDT by tuliptree76
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To: EGPWS

Do you realize what reaping of financial contentment that could have been achieved by the inventor if only the name would have been changed? ; )

Maybe so, but the ERs would be filled every Saturday night with guys suffering from wind shear :)


236 posted on 09/23/2005 10:46:04 PM PDT by MonaMars
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To: Help!

Once again, the competent are denigrated in perpetuity by a sniveling minority with creative lawyers.


237 posted on 09/23/2005 10:50:59 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: EGPWS

"Yes, individual people with a mind of their own who just happen to tote an ecstatic beauty appealing to men.

D@mn that sucks doesn't it?"

Hmm...My answer to that question is wholly dependent on the answer to another question: which men? Cuz I, personally, can't take comfort in the notion that, say, Ted Kennedy or Al Franken want to check out my rack.


238 posted on 09/23/2005 10:59:04 PM PDT by MonaMars
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To: Born in a Rage
If she was joking around

Half-joking is what I said. She had a rep for being physically aggressive

239 posted on 09/24/2005 3:58:51 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Never try to teach a pig to sing -- it wastes your time and it annoys the pig)
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To: Help!; Dr. Eckleburg; jude24

This is ridiculous if there isn't a law to cover it, and the disparate treatment law somehow didn't take into account that men were treated the same way.

They handled it differently we're told.

Does that mean now that disparate treatment, treating folks differently, actually does mean treating them differently?

This is beyond ignorant. It doesn't just require the redefinition of words. It requires them to mean one thing sometimes and other things at other times.


240 posted on 09/24/2005 3:59:08 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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