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Men's Temper Tantrums That Bother Women May Be Sex Discrimination (9th Circuit Strikes Again)
ASAP Newsletter ^ | September 2005 | Margaret Hart Edwards

Posted on 09/23/2005 12:38:17 PM PDT by Help!

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To: My2Cents

Screaming and yelling by men at work
I agree it shouldn't be sexual discrimination or harrassment, but anyone who yells and screams at coworkers, or the people they supervise, should be canned on the spot.""

Did the article say that the yelling was at coworkers? Or just yelling? If just yelling, and not at someone in particular, this seems like a way over the edge of reasonable to me. I yell at myself all the time when I do something that causes more work, etc.


221 posted on 09/23/2005 7:42:09 PM PDT by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: ridesthemiles

I said I didn't agree with the court decision. My comment was a sidebar, simply stating that people, whomever it is, that flies into fits of anger and rage at fellow-workers, should be canned. Obviously I've touched a nerve, considering the grief I've gotten from some on this thread. It makes me think they may be perpetrators of hostile working environments themselves.


222 posted on 09/23/2005 7:44:36 PM PDT by My2Cents (The political battles of our day are battles over morality, between the haves and the have nots.)
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To: My2Cents

Totally agree. A sexual harassment charge is wrong for this conduct, but it doesn't make it right. There's better ways to handle it- I used to have a boss who seemed to "get his jollies" by screaming at and intimidating the workers, on an almost daily basis regardless of if they did anything wrong or not. I happened to be working at the office on a day that the boss's wife stopped in to visit her husband. The phone rang, I answered it, it was the boss's mistress. Somehow, I "accidentally" forgot office-protocol and yelled across the room "Mr. (blank), Julie's on line one for you!". For the next 10 minutes, all I heard was the wife screaming and yelling "Who's Julie??!! That's it!!". Needless to say, it was my last day working there, but I was so proud of the way I went out.


223 posted on 09/23/2005 7:47:43 PM PDT by richmwill
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To: Born in a Rage
If so, were you frightened that she was going to beat you up?

Years ago, I had a female manager, who I knew to be a brown belt in judo, threaten to beat the crap out of me. She said this half jokingly. I think she was on a power trip and wanted to see if she could intimidate me

My response to her was that I would treat a female martial artist who initiated violence exactly the same as I would treat a man who initiated violence against me -- namely that I would pick up the nearest chair and smash it across her face.

She was somewhat taken aback, and did not threaten me again

224 posted on 09/23/2005 7:50:28 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Never try to teach a pig to sing -- it wastes your time and it annoys the pig)
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To: Constitution Day

Congress should defund the 9th circuit. It is an absolute joke.


225 posted on 09/23/2005 8:01:15 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter (E)
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To: SauronOfMordor
How much you want to be that the real reason for this lawsuit is a bunch of feminist women at the NEA wanting to tilt the playing field so that no male executive can ever dare to attempt to discipline a female subordinate?

You don't think that what they really want is to win enough money to be able to quit their jobs and post on DU all day?

226 posted on 09/23/2005 8:03:36 PM PDT by freespirited
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To: Help!
Because women found the behavior subjectively more intimidating than men did, and reasonable women would do so, the conduct treats women differently.

The fact that they may REACT differently, does not mean they were treated differently.

227 posted on 09/23/2005 8:12:31 PM PDT by knuthom
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To: dighton

LOL! Too easy.


228 posted on 09/23/2005 8:13:44 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: SauronOfMordor
Years ago, I had a female manager, who I knew to be a brown belt in judo, threaten to beat the crap out of me. She said this half jokingly. I think she was on a power trip and wanted to see if she could intimidate me My response to her was that I would treat a female martial artist who initiated violence exactly the same as I would treat a man who initiated violence against me -- namely that I would pick up the nearest chair and smash it across her face. She was somewhat taken aback, and did not threaten me again

If she was joking around, like you said, I think it was rather crude of you to tell her you were going to smash a chair across her face. You were the one who was being threatening in that situation, not her.

229 posted on 09/23/2005 9:05:15 PM PDT by Born in a Rage
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To: MayflowerMadam
I worked for a guy once who threw a sandwich at his secretary because there was/wasn't (can't remember) mayonnaise on it.

And I'd bet he wouldn't have thrown it at another guy. Intimidation in an office (or any work area) can be more than sexual. Last year, some guy threatened to ram his truck into my car when I and 4 kids were in it (he said I 'took' his parking spot, which I didn't). My husband said he wouldn't have done that if he were in the car with me...and it's true. Some guys get off on scaring women.

230 posted on 09/23/2005 9:16:26 PM PDT by Born in a Rage
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To: Help!
If you can't stand the heat, go back to the kitchen! Whining hysteric cowards...
231 posted on 09/23/2005 9:18:29 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: mhking

holy crap... there is no end to their foolishness, is there?


232 posted on 09/23/2005 9:55:25 PM PDT by King Prout (19sep05 - I want at least 2 Saiga-12 shotguns. If you have leads, let me know)
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To: Help!; MeekOneGOP; potlatch; ntnychik; devolve; Boazo; OXENinFLA; Grampa Dave; Lady Jag; ...



233 posted on 09/23/2005 10:18:04 PM PDT by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: tuliptree76

This pic is hillarious...


234 posted on 09/23/2005 10:38:50 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Army Air Corps

Thanks. I needed the laugh right now.


235 posted on 09/23/2005 10:44:17 PM PDT by tuliptree76
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To: EGPWS

Do you realize what reaping of financial contentment that could have been achieved by the inventor if only the name would have been changed? ; )

Maybe so, but the ERs would be filled every Saturday night with guys suffering from wind shear :)


236 posted on 09/23/2005 10:46:04 PM PDT by MonaMars
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To: Help!

Once again, the competent are denigrated in perpetuity by a sniveling minority with creative lawyers.


237 posted on 09/23/2005 10:50:59 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: EGPWS

"Yes, individual people with a mind of their own who just happen to tote an ecstatic beauty appealing to men.

D@mn that sucks doesn't it?"

Hmm...My answer to that question is wholly dependent on the answer to another question: which men? Cuz I, personally, can't take comfort in the notion that, say, Ted Kennedy or Al Franken want to check out my rack.


238 posted on 09/23/2005 10:59:04 PM PDT by MonaMars
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To: Born in a Rage
If she was joking around

Half-joking is what I said. She had a rep for being physically aggressive

239 posted on 09/24/2005 3:58:51 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Never try to teach a pig to sing -- it wastes your time and it annoys the pig)
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To: Help!; Dr. Eckleburg; jude24

This is ridiculous if there isn't a law to cover it, and the disparate treatment law somehow didn't take into account that men were treated the same way.

They handled it differently we're told.

Does that mean now that disparate treatment, treating folks differently, actually does mean treating them differently?

This is beyond ignorant. It doesn't just require the redefinition of words. It requires them to mean one thing sometimes and other things at other times.


240 posted on 09/24/2005 3:59:08 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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