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Please click the source link above and Freep this poll to repeal the Madison, WI destructive, mean-spirited and just plain stupid Smoking Ban. Thanks! (I voted and I don't live there...but the ban is creeping over the hill and will soon hit my town, hurting businesses and my neighbors.) It means nothing, really, but at least smokers and pro-business non-smokers can flood the poll to make their voices heard.

Be on the look-out for the lurking Anti-Smoking Nazis on this thread...they'll be here quick enough. ;)

1 posted on 09/20/2005 2:38:11 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin
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To: Gabz; SheLion

Rally the troops, please! :)


2 posted on 09/20/2005 2:39:07 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
File a claim for the right to smoke in your own business (property, as in 'the pursuit of happiness.'). The market has the freedom of choice of where it wants to rest and spend its money in our free enterprise system, NOT the gummint.

Deprivation of your rights is not a petty offense.

3 posted on 09/20/2005 2:47:28 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

What smoking did they ban....all smoking or just smoking in certain areas....

I find it interesting how smoking has somehow become a conservative thing......liberals are not just opposed to smoking out of health reasons but for political reasons too. I quit smoking cigars last April and was talking with a liberal friend of mine about it and he said: "dont you feel much better" and I said NO, I loved smoking cigars and life was more fun as a smoker...I quit cuz I didn't want to pay for the habit anymore and did not like the stale smoke stinking up my car and house.

He couldn't believe that I actually preferred the smoking life over non-smoking and did not feel any health benefits to quitting. It almost offended him..


4 posted on 09/20/2005 2:48:02 PM PDT by fizziwig
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

The tavern owners will go out of business. Great for the local economy, huh?


5 posted on 09/20/2005 2:49:06 PM PDT by Cobra64
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
The tavern owners will go out of business. Great for the local economy, huh?

I forgot to add, internet tobbaco sales will continue to grow.

6 posted on 09/20/2005 2:49:55 PM PDT by Cobra64
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
The danger of second-hand smoke has been grosly overstated, in order to convince voters to support smoking bans.

For more check out this site: http://www.davehitt.com/facts/who.html
8 posted on 09/20/2005 3:09:13 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Again, it is my firm belief that government should stay out of the private individuals' business. The owner(s) of the bar/restaurant should be able to make their own rules. If they want a smoking area to accomodate smokers, then they should be able to. If they want a totally non-smoking establishment, then, again, that's their rule. But, it's the owners property and let them make the rules and government stay out! Non-smoking Nazis are taking away a legal freedom, not to mention a huge tax contributor.

http://www.ci.austin.tx.us/news/2003/downloads/airqualsmoketask.pdf


9 posted on 09/20/2005 3:23:58 PM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Kill 'em til they're dead! Then, kill 'em again!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Just to annoy you, this is from today's Lincoln Journal Star. Lincoln adopted a total smoking ban in bars and restaurants a year ago.

Survey: Lincolnites support smoking ban

By ALGIS J. LAUKAITIS / Lincoln Journal Star

A random survey shows Lincoln residents overwhelmingly support the city’s smoking ban — and they believe it’s made bars and restaurants healthier places to drink and dine. Nearly 72 percent of those surveyed said they support the controversial Smoking Regulation Act, which was passed by 62 percent of voters in November.

In addition, 85 percent of those surveyed said they went to the bar as much or more often since the ban went into effect Jan. 1; 89 percent said the same thing for restaurants.

Still, some bar owners said the ban has hurt business. And at least one — Big John’s Billiards — has blamed the ban for its closing.

“I think the smoking ban has cost us customers, it has grown some customers for us and it has changed the way customers behave,” said Michael Carpenter, owner of Libations, Too at 5310 S. 56th St.

Mayor Coleen Seng and other officials announced the survey results Monday at the Red Fox Steakhouse and Lounge, 1339 W. O St.

They chose the Red Fox in part because its owner, Don Arena, initially opposed the ban.

“I was so scared that my business was going to be hurt,” Arena told reporters.

He has since changed his mind.

“It’s done wonders for my business,” Arena said, adding a personal note: “I can come to work and breathe normally.”

Others apparently feel the same way, too. The survey showed 91 percent now consider restaurants and bars healthier; 73 percent of those who smoked felt the same way.

“The act is doing exactly what it was intended to do: Protect the health of Lincoln’s employees and residents, and this survey shows that Lincolnites appreciate that,” said Cindy Jeffrey, a spokesperson for Tobacco Free Lincoln, one of a handful of groups that worked to pass the law.

Brian Kitten, a partner in Brewsky’s Food & Spirits, said the survey numbers don’t tell the whole story.

He said keno revenues are down — an average of 23 percent from a year ago — because of the ban.

“Those people are going somewhere else,” Kitten said, suggesting many now leave Lincoln for Waverly or Denton.

The ban has hurt parts of Brewsky’s business, he said, especially revenue from pool and darts.

“The customer who comes in to play pool and darts is generally a drinker and a smoker,” Kitten said.

Officials did not have figures on the economic impact of the smoking ban.

About the survey

The June random phone survey of 982 residents was done by the Nebraska Department of Health and Human Services regulation and licensure section of data management to gauge support for the city’s smoking ban.

Of those participating:

* 78 percent described themselves as nonsmokers

* 22 percent described themselves as smokers

Compliance not a problem

Between Jan. 1 and Sept. 11, authorities wrote 22 tickets to individuals and four to businesses; they also fielded 50 complaints. And 97 percent of smokers who responded to the survey said they always comply with the ban.

31 posted on 09/20/2005 8:08:21 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Just voted...248-211 repeal the ban can catch up.


39 posted on 09/20/2005 8:34:19 PM PDT by maineman
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Please click the source link above and Freep this poll to repeal the Madison, WI destructive, mean-spirited and just plain stupid Smoking Ban.

I was able to vote only twice. Not fair!

But after I waited couple minutes I was able to vote again.

53 posted on 09/20/2005 9:45:59 PM PDT by A. Pole (Gov.Gumpas:"But that would be putting the clock back, have you no idea of progress, of development?")
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To: ninenot; sittnick; steve50; Hegemony Cricket; Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; FITZ; arete; ...
Please click the source link above and Freep this poll to repeal the Madison, WI destructive, mean-spirited and just plain stupid Smoking Ban.

Help please!

55 posted on 09/20/2005 9:53:18 PM PDT by A. Pole (Gov.Gumpas:"But that would be putting the clock back, have you no idea of progress, of development?")
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
wow - exactly even until I voted. 257 for repeal and 257 against. As of 1:02 AM Wednesday morning here in Beantown.
58 posted on 09/20/2005 10:03:19 PM PDT by warsaw44
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I don;t like smokers and people who smoke and throw their cigarettes on the road while driving.

Smoking causes bad allergic reactions, asthma and shortness of breath to many people. I am one of them who suffer when someone is smoking in public around me. Inhaling second hand smoke even by accident causes my body to react badly with shortness of breath.

Hence, I totally support banning smoking in all public places.

If people want to smoke, let them smoke in their own private areas instead of public places. As long as the smokers do not make the non-smokers victims of their second hand smoke, I believe it is well and good.
65 posted on 09/20/2005 11:52:37 PM PDT by velocityguy
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I would like the smoking ban to ...
Choice Votes Percentage of 613 Votes
remain in place. 297 48%
be repealed. 316 52%
Thanks for participating. Check back for results.

75 posted on 09/21/2005 2:16:15 AM PDT by metesky (This land was your land, this land is MY land; I bought the rights from a town selectman!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Stateline area (Rockford) anto-anti-smoker voting for repeal. Good luck and God Bless!


80 posted on 09/21/2005 3:29:11 AM PDT by sittnick (There's no salvation in politics.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

They really should outlaw farting. I find that as offensive as someones cigarette smoke.


162 posted on 09/21/2005 10:08:30 PM PDT by DakotaRed
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I personally think they need to ban all smoking, including smoke from car tailpipes. How many of those that think the smoke of a burning leaf should be banned would be in favor of giving up their 2 inch smoking tailpipes.

The anti-cigarette-smoking crowd is totally unthinking. If you don't like the smell of the things, fine. But that is a far as your arguement can rationally be taken.


168 posted on 09/21/2005 10:15:12 PM PDT by BJungNan
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I quit almost 8 months now but the ban is stupid. Hell they fined a prestigious club here in NY for having ashtrays in the OFFICE.


200 posted on 09/22/2005 12:18:01 AM PDT by Cougar66 (If I wanted any crap from a liberal, I'd squeeze their face.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Government control what I do with my own body?

I thought that was unconstitutional.


231 posted on 09/22/2005 10:24:23 AM PDT by NormalGuy
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