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Defenseless On The Bayou
Reason ^ | Sept 10, 2005 | Dave Kopel

Posted on 09/10/2005 1:33:08 PM PDT by publiusF27

In the nearly two weeks since Hurricane Katrina, the government of New Orleans has devolved from its traditional status as an elective kleptocracy into something far more dangerous: an anarcho-tyranny that refuses to protect the public from criminals while preventing people from protecting themselves. At the orders of New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin, the New Orleans Police, the National Guard, the Oklahoma National Guard, and U.S. Marshals have begun breaking into homes at gunpoint, confiscating their lawfully-owned firearms, and evicting the residents. "No one is allowed to be armed. We're going to take all the guns," says P. Edwin Compass III, the superintendent of police.

Last week, thousands of New Orleanians huddled in the Superdome and the Convention Center got a taste of anarcho-tyranny. Everyone entering those buildings was searched for firearms. So for a few days, they lived in a small world without guns. As in other such worlds, the weaker soon became the prey of the stronger.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; batf; billclinton; clinton; clintonlegacy; confiscation; guncontrol; guns; irs; janetreno; rkba; secondamendment; selfdefense
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Give up your guns, become prey. It's a simple, two step process.
1 posted on 09/10/2005 1:33:10 PM PDT by publiusF27
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To: publiusF27

I hope my friend sees this article. I don't think she believed me when I told her they were taking people's guns. She is a big "Reason" reader, so she will likely see it there.


2 posted on 09/10/2005 1:37:42 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: publiusF27

I can see taking guns and other weapons from those in the dome. Breaking in and taking them from owners in their own homes is another thing altogether.


3 posted on 09/10/2005 1:40:53 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: jocon307

There should be laws against this.


4 posted on 09/10/2005 1:41:18 PM PDT by i.l.e. (Tagline - this space for sale....)
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To: publiusF27

It's bad enough that they are doing this on the orders of the mayor. Imagine if there had been a hurricane in Texas and President Clinton had ordered the confiscation of all weapons? You wonder why we have the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878?


5 posted on 09/10/2005 1:41:26 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (France is an example of retrograde chordate evolution.)
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To: i.l.e.
There should be laws against this.

There is!

Amendment II
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

6 posted on 09/10/2005 1:44:10 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (France is an example of retrograde chordate evolution.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Apparently the second ammendment isn't enough and is under debate. We need something to put a finer point on the wording, something to the effect that confiscation of any firearms is illegal period.


7 posted on 09/10/2005 1:55:32 PM PDT by i.l.e. (Tagline - this space for sale....)
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To: publiusF27

The NRA has a call into the La. Attorney General seeking clarification on what is going on.

There is no City of New Orleans government.


8 posted on 09/10/2005 1:56:14 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: i.l.e.
We need something to put a finer point on the wording, something to the effect that confiscation of any firearms is illegal period.

Wait a minute. Why should convicted felons not have any firearms they have confiscated? Under the eighth amendment, people can have rights restricted or removed if so long as they are are given "due process of law".

9 posted on 09/10/2005 2:02:13 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (France is an example of retrograde chordate evolution.)
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To: publiusF27

The BATF and IRS are the front runners in the gun confacation process


10 posted on 09/10/2005 2:06:34 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: Rabid Dog

This may be of interest for Tuesday's question.


11 posted on 09/10/2005 2:07:11 PM PDT by Snapping Turtle (Snap on and don't let go!)
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To: publiusF27
"No one is allowed to be armed. We're going to take all the guns," says P. Edwin Compass III, the superintendent of police.

This SOB needs to leave this country.

12 posted on 09/10/2005 2:08:27 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: publiusF27

How the heck can they get away with this?????


13 posted on 09/10/2005 2:12:04 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: BurbankKarl
"There is no City of New Orleans government."

So, generalissimo compass is just a warlord?

14 posted on 09/10/2005 2:14:53 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: spunkets

Hurricane damage has cast the Louisiana legal system into disarray, with courts and cases suspended or relocated, criminal and civil evidence imperiled or destroyed, and lawyers relocated around the U.S. desperately seeking work.

The extent of the destroyed evidence and lawsuit files remains uncertain, as several courts remain inaccessible or under water. But because of the damage, Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco this week issued an order suspending all state civil-court deadlines, such as statutes of limitations dictating when cases must be filed, at least through Sept. 25.

Many civil and criminal trial courts have suspended operations in the parishes, or counties, in the New Orleans area. The federal district court in New Orleans says it is "closed until further notice" and that it hopes to reopen in three locations -- Houma, Baton Rouge and Lafayette, La. The Louisiana Supreme Court has moved to Baton Rouge, and the U.S. Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals has shifted temporarily to Houston.

"There could be damage to the court records or filings, but we just don't know," said Robert E. Kleinpeter, president of the Louisiana Trial Lawyers Association, referring to several New Orleans-area courts.

Michelle Ghetti, a law professor at Southern University Law Center in Baton Rouge, said that various Louisiana prosecutors met via conference call Thursday in part to discuss the extent of damage to criminal-case evidence. In an email to law colleagues, Prof. Ghetti recently wrote that courts "in as many as eight parishes/counties are under water, as well as three of our circuit courts, with evidence/files at each of them ruined."

As for criminal courts, most law-enforcement authorities have been preoccupied with maintaining the peace as much as they can, and haven't had a chance to focus on courts or evidence. The damage to records and briefs at many law firms is expected to be immense. Tom Alexander of CLC Inc., a legal-referral company, said, "There are a lot of large law firms that are not going to be able to recover their files."


15 posted on 09/10/2005 2:26:46 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl
The NRA has a call into the La. Attorney General seeking clarification on what is going on.

The NRA will do too little, too late. Or else it will propose as a compromise that the NRA should be the designated receiver for the weapons.

16 posted on 09/10/2005 2:28:43 PM PDT by Grut
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To: Rummyfan
How the heck can they get away with this?????

Too few think ahead. They just obey and hand over their guns, not considering that they will then be defenseless, and the folks who took the guns won't be around to help when the thugs arrive.
17 posted on 09/10/2005 5:43:11 PM PDT by publiusF27
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To: Thunder90
The BATF and IRS are the front runners in the gun confacation process

This time around, it's the state and local authorities who are ordering the seizure of guns.

I have been hit by two hurricanes, Andrew and Charley. I would not have wanted to be disarmed after either one. Cops were too busy to keep the peace. It was up to us.
18 posted on 09/10/2005 6:15:49 PM PDT by publiusF27
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To: Paleo Conservative
Posse Comitatus Act didn't do Elian any good in Florida did it? What would the media do if Bush pulled something like Bubba and Reno did? I will never forget it.
19 posted on 09/10/2005 6:18:54 PM PDT by ladyinred (It is all my fault okay?)
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To: publiusF27

The BATF is assisting full heartedly, however.


20 posted on 09/10/2005 6:22:23 PM PDT by Thunder90
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