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New Orleans Begins Confiscating Firearms as Water Recedes
Ny Times ^ | September 8 | ALEX BERENSON and TIMOTHY WILLIAMS

Posted on 09/08/2005 3:40:23 PM PDT by RDTF

Waters were receding across this flood-beaten city today as police officers began confiscating weapons, including legally registered firearms, from civilians in preparation for a mass forced evacuation of the residents still living here.

No civilians in New Orleans will be allowed to carry pistols, shotguns, or other firearms, said P. Edwin Compass, the superintendent of police. "Only law enforcement are allowed to have weapons," he said.

But that order apparently does not apply to the hundreds of security guards whom businesses and some wealthy individuals have hired to protect their property. The guards, who are civilians working for private security firms like Blackwater, are openly carrying M-16's and other assault rifles. Mr. Compass said he was aware of the private guards, but that the police had no plans to make them give up their weapons.

Nearly two weeks after the floods began, New Orleans has turned into an armed camp, patrolled by thousands of local, state, and federal law enforcement officers, as well as National Guard troops and active-duty soldiers. While armed looters roamed unchecked last week, the city is now calm. No arrests were made on Wednesday night or this morning, and police received only 10 calls for service, a police spokesman said.

The city's slow recovery is continuing on other fronts as well, local officials said at a press conference late this morning. Pumping stations are now operating across much of the city, and many taps and fire hydrants have water pressure. Also, tests have shown no evidence of cholera or other dangerous diseases in flooded areas, though health officials have said the waters contain levels of E. coli bacteria and lead 10 times higher than what is considered safe.

Efforts to recover corpses have also started, although only a handful of bodies have been recovered so far.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: 2a; bang; banglist; bloat; fmcdh; incompetence; jbt; katrina; katrinafailures; molonlabe; outrage; policestate; rkba; scary; whereisaclu
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To: Mike Darancette
Bravo Sierra.

There was a good 20% of the city not flooded...and now 40% is dry ground. If a citizen is at his/her house or property, if they are not in the flood waters, and if they are well provisioned and can take care of themselves, then they have every right to protect their property from the criminals who are there in the city and should be left alone.

That does not make them a criminal.

41 posted on 09/08/2005 3:54:05 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Jeff Head

The folks I saw were in very dry "Mansions" in the middle of large areas of land. How close into town they were I couldn't tell. They weren't floating in any water though. And they weren't threatening the guys coming to the door. They handcuffed them and everything. One guy said, "they were mad because our guns were bigger than their guns."


42 posted on 09/08/2005 3:54:14 PM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: TXBubba; All
OK guys; time to add a few throwaway/trashcan guns to your collection.

When you hear the news sit out front with them. Hand them to the cops and watch as they turn the corner. Then break out the good ones.
43 posted on 09/08/2005 3:54:31 PM PDT by PeteB570
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To: Mike Darancette

What law did they break? Remaining on their own land?? How is that a crime??
- plewis1250


44 posted on 09/08/2005 3:55:27 PM PDT by plewis1250
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To: Jeff Head
If they are confiscating weapons from peaceful, legal citizens in their own homes...this is wrong and must not be tolerated.

The article says "in preparation for mass forced evacuations". It sounds like those aren't their own homes anymore, they just don't know it yet.

45 posted on 09/08/2005 3:55:31 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: RDTF

We now have the example we need whenever undecideds say gungrabbing "can't happen here."


This is obscene.


46 posted on 09/08/2005 3:56:09 PM PDT by Petronski (I love Cyborg. Gosh I miss her!)
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To: SevenDaysInMay; Travis McGee

ping


47 posted on 09/08/2005 3:56:14 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: TXBubba

If they threatened the police officers, NG...that would be one thing. But to force them to leave their property on dry ground, where thewy are well provisioned, and to confiscate their arms in the process...IMHO, is just plain wrong, illegal, unbconstitutional, and a crime itself and should not be tolerated.


48 posted on 09/08/2005 3:56:19 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: RDTF
I think you hit the nail right on the head.

By making them defenseless the citizens are at too much of a risk if they stay.

Lousy policy.

In fact, the very thing the Constitution prohibits.

What is going on?
49 posted on 09/08/2005 3:56:27 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: mewzilla
"Is this even legal?"

Is physically removing property owners from their homes legal?

I don't believe so, and the judge on Fox news said yesterday, that forced removal under these circumstances is NOT. (no martial law declared, no eminent domain issue and no legal condemnation of properties) allows home owners to stay if they chose. The disarmament issue is even worse. I understand trying to disarm the thugs with stolen weapons, but law abiding citizens who chose to stay and protect their lives and property should be left alone. If they chose to stay behind and wallow in toxic sludge, they have a constitutional right to do so and with a 2nd amend. guarantee.

50 posted on 09/08/2005 3:56:38 PM PDT by two23
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To: PeteB570; Jeff Head

I should say that the ones I saw handcuffed were two women who might have been 125 pounds soaking wet.


51 posted on 09/08/2005 3:56:55 PM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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I guess it wasn't enough to see what N.O. would be like without police. Now they want to see what it's like when only the bad guys have guns.


52 posted on 09/08/2005 3:57:07 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: RDTF

Is it temporary confiscation or permanent ?


53 posted on 09/08/2005 3:57:26 PM PDT by John Lenin (When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around)
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To: TXBubba

They couldn't get out the people who needed to be gotten out, now they want to chase out the few who managed to survive on their own.

What in heck's name is really going on down there?

I don't understand why all these people have to leave as the situation is improving.

Are we just seeing the complete breakdown of government there?


54 posted on 09/08/2005 3:58:17 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: RDTF

That's crazy. If I were over there, they'd have to fight me for my guns. As far as I can tell from the news, guns are life for honest folks stuck in the disaster zone.


55 posted on 09/08/2005 3:58:52 PM PDT by Firefigher NC (Volunteer firefighters- standing tall, serving proud in the tradition of Ben Franklin.)
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To: John Lenin

You have to hope that if they were able to hold onto their paperwork in the flood (yeah ok) they'll get them back.


56 posted on 09/08/2005 3:58:58 PM PDT by RDTF
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To: mewzilla

Is this even legal? - Didn't Stan Kawolski say they use Napoleonic Law


57 posted on 09/08/2005 3:59:20 PM PDT by SF Republican
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To: Jeff Head
if they are well provisioned and can take care of themselves

And how would the officer at the door know this?

58 posted on 09/08/2005 3:59:39 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: SF Republican

http://www.la-legal.com/history_louisiana_law.htm


59 posted on 09/08/2005 4:00:17 PM PDT by SF Republican
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To: D-fendr

bump


60 posted on 09/08/2005 4:00:19 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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