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New Orleans Begins Confiscating Firearms as Water Recedes
Ny Times ^ | September 8 | ALEX BERENSON and TIMOTHY WILLIAMS

Posted on 09/08/2005 3:40:23 PM PDT by RDTF

Waters were receding across this flood-beaten city today as police officers began confiscating weapons, including legally registered firearms, from civilians in preparation for a mass forced evacuation of the residents still living here.

No civilians in New Orleans will be allowed to carry pistols, shotguns, or other firearms, said P. Edwin Compass, the superintendent of police. "Only law enforcement are allowed to have weapons," he said.

But that order apparently does not apply to the hundreds of security guards whom businesses and some wealthy individuals have hired to protect their property. The guards, who are civilians working for private security firms like Blackwater, are openly carrying M-16's and other assault rifles. Mr. Compass said he was aware of the private guards, but that the police had no plans to make them give up their weapons.

Nearly two weeks after the floods began, New Orleans has turned into an armed camp, patrolled by thousands of local, state, and federal law enforcement officers, as well as National Guard troops and active-duty soldiers. While armed looters roamed unchecked last week, the city is now calm. No arrests were made on Wednesday night or this morning, and police received only 10 calls for service, a police spokesman said.

The city's slow recovery is continuing on other fronts as well, local officials said at a press conference late this morning. Pumping stations are now operating across much of the city, and many taps and fire hydrants have water pressure. Also, tests have shown no evidence of cholera or other dangerous diseases in flooded areas, though health officials have said the waters contain levels of E. coli bacteria and lead 10 times higher than what is considered safe.

Efforts to recover corpses have also started, although only a handful of bodies have been recovered so far.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: 2a; bang; banglist; bloat; fmcdh; incompetence; jbt; katrina; katrinafailures; molonlabe; outrage; policestate; rkba; scary; whereisaclu
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To: chudogg
At this time it should be only gangbangers left. Law abiding citizens should have left long after the MANDATORY evacuation, or even before the hurricane hit for that matter.

Boy what do you say to logic like that.

321 posted on 09/08/2005 6:24:22 PM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: RDTF; Stew Padasso
from what I have been reading there is a portion of NO that is not underwater, passable and safe for the homeowners. There is no reason to go in and make these people leave. I sure wouldn't.
279 Stew Padasso






Do they have running water and power?
284 rdtf






Are you implying that it is 'unsafe or unhealthy' to live in a house without running water & power?

I, and many others still alive, some in their 90's, did just that for many years before the 40's. No doubt many thousands across this country still do.
322 posted on 09/08/2005 6:24:48 PM PDT by dimquest
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To: penowa
Sooner or later there will be pressure to stop handing out $ like water after the first few hundred billion and if you haven't gotten yours before that, you probably won't.

Unfortunately, our federal gov't set a horrible and unfair precedent in the $1million+ per head pay-off to 9/11 victims & families. Now Katrina victims will be arguing (with justification) that their lives have been torn apart just as much, and there will be quite a few more of them.

323 posted on 09/08/2005 6:24:54 PM PDT by Sloth (Archaeologists test for intelligent design all the time.)
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To: happinesswithoutpeace

Newby jackboot. LOL!


324 posted on 09/08/2005 6:25:09 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: dimquest

Not sure what is safe, but it might be unsafe under those conditions there until they rid it all of disease.


325 posted on 09/08/2005 6:26:48 PM PDT by RDTF
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To: RDTF
Do they have running water and power?

Some do and power is being rapidly restored across.

326 posted on 09/08/2005 6:27:16 PM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: monkeywrench

LOL, You know it is gonna be a rough thread if the words "confiscating firearms" appear.


327 posted on 09/08/2005 6:27:36 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: RDTF

Disease in the areas not underwater? This is not OUTBREAK.


328 posted on 09/08/2005 6:28:59 PM PDT by Stew Padasso ("That boy is nuttier than a squirrel turd.")
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To: Congressman Billybob
He's a bright guy, and speaks well. But he ain't no scholar on the history and details of the Constitution, from 1787 to 2005. Nor has he practiced in the Supreme Court, as I have for 32 years.

I bet he knows you don't need to register guns in the US.

329 posted on 09/08/2005 6:29:14 PM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: monkeywrench

fNC is now spining the story of the old lady SHOWING the empty revolver. They are making it sound like she pointed it.

Earlier in the day they reported they took her to the Superdome then released her. It was assumed she returned home to her pets.

I don't see how they can ORDER people out if they want to stay.


330 posted on 09/08/2005 6:30:14 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: TXBubba
The folks I saw were in very dry "Mansions" in the middle of large areas of land. How close into town they were I couldn't tell. They weren't floating in any water though. And they weren't threatening the guys coming to the door. They handcuffed them and everything.

What an ugly, scary portrait that is.

331 posted on 09/08/2005 6:30:24 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: RDTF
I bet you are just as ugly on the outside.

Does your mommy know you are on the internet?

332 posted on 09/08/2005 6:31:02 PM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: Stew Padasso

Hey if they are determined to stay then they should be able to. But they're gonna need antibiotics.


333 posted on 09/08/2005 6:31:43 PM PDT by RDTF
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Another swipe at provoking civil unrest. This time, those who resist are likely to be middle class working people who have property they want to defend.

I hope the media does not portray resitance to the forced evacuation as a race thing -- but if wishes were horses, my house would be full of horse poop.

For my money, the first group that should be forcibly evacuated are the thugs and homeless, but they are not quite the easy targets.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1478552/posts?page=637#637


334 posted on 09/08/2005 6:32:57 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: longtermmemmory

Ann Coulter on Fox now


335 posted on 09/08/2005 6:33:31 PM PDT by RDTF
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To: two23
I predict major legal trouble over this issue alone. Of course, LA is dirt poor anyway, so a lawsuit victory will be pretty hollow. A very, very bad precedent, especially after the governments of NO and LA have spectacularly displayed to the world that they are completely unable to protect their citizens (or citizens of other countries, for that matter) in a crisis, which is exactly when protection is needed.

BTW has anyone heard that guns are selling like hot cakes right now?

I was certain that gun-grabbers would lay low for years after this crisis. Apparently not.
336 posted on 09/08/2005 6:33:36 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: happinesswithoutpeace; Nov3; monkeywrench; RDTF

Yep. A rough thread. I just had to go back to the 100 posts and figure out why you guys are picking on RDTF. I think you all can cool down now and quit picking on her. She has been politely expressing her opinions and receiving some rather inane flames. I didn't pick up at all that she wanted to defend disarming law abiding citizens.


337 posted on 09/08/2005 6:34:15 PM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Hell, I know what the Constitution says. I know as well as anyone that only martial law, declared in accord with the US and Louisiana constitutions, can trump the Bill of Rights for American citizens. That, or taking up arms against the government, which I do NOT, EVER say that this citizens in their homes are doing.

John, I have a lot of respect for you and your opinions on FR. I think a lot of us are upset that you are not out in front of this. Had you said "I don't know for sure, but I'm finding out; and if this is illegal I'm on my way to court" We would be more reassured about your position. Currently, you seem just a bit lukewarm, here.

338 posted on 09/08/2005 6:35:14 PM PDT by Right Winged American (No matter how Cynical I get, I just can't keep up!)
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To: Mike Darancette

I thought the govenor specifically declined to sign off on mandatory/forced evacuations in spite of the mayor wanting them. I'm not sure what law you're accusing them of breaking.


339 posted on 09/08/2005 6:36:43 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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To: RDTF; All

ThanKS! for the ANN ALERT!


340 posted on 09/08/2005 6:36:43 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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