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New Orleans Begins Confiscating Firearms as Water Recedes
Ny Times ^ | September 8 | ALEX BERENSON and TIMOTHY WILLIAMS

Posted on 09/08/2005 3:40:23 PM PDT by RDTF

Waters were receding across this flood-beaten city today as police officers began confiscating weapons, including legally registered firearms, from civilians in preparation for a mass forced evacuation of the residents still living here.

No civilians in New Orleans will be allowed to carry pistols, shotguns, or other firearms, said P. Edwin Compass, the superintendent of police. "Only law enforcement are allowed to have weapons," he said.

But that order apparently does not apply to the hundreds of security guards whom businesses and some wealthy individuals have hired to protect their property. The guards, who are civilians working for private security firms like Blackwater, are openly carrying M-16's and other assault rifles. Mr. Compass said he was aware of the private guards, but that the police had no plans to make them give up their weapons.

Nearly two weeks after the floods began, New Orleans has turned into an armed camp, patrolled by thousands of local, state, and federal law enforcement officers, as well as National Guard troops and active-duty soldiers. While armed looters roamed unchecked last week, the city is now calm. No arrests were made on Wednesday night or this morning, and police received only 10 calls for service, a police spokesman said.

The city's slow recovery is continuing on other fronts as well, local officials said at a press conference late this morning. Pumping stations are now operating across much of the city, and many taps and fire hydrants have water pressure. Also, tests have shown no evidence of cholera or other dangerous diseases in flooded areas, though health officials have said the waters contain levels of E. coli bacteria and lead 10 times higher than what is considered safe.

Efforts to recover corpses have also started, although only a handful of bodies have been recovered so far.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: 2a; bang; banglist; bloat; fmcdh; incompetence; jbt; katrina; katrinafailures; molonlabe; outrage; policestate; rkba; scary; whereisaclu
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To: Mike Darancette

"If they are still in NO then they are law breaker"

In America, one is considered innocent until proven guilty. Just having Mike darancette arbitrarily declare them to be criminals is not enough to take away their 2nd Amendment rights.

But of course you knew that...

Ed


221 posted on 09/08/2005 5:13:30 PM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: TXBubba
They said they had set up a "command post" in a local church. Had to leave a note because they couldn't locate the pastor. Then they talked to some of the guardsman who said it was weird doing this in America.

Goodness. It sounds like they are getting close to also ignoring the 3rd Amendment:

Article [III.]

No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

If they are using churches for command posts, I would be unsurprised to hear that they are also using private homes to quarter soldiers.

222 posted on 09/08/2005 5:13:36 PM PDT by snowsislander (NRA)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

Amen! And it amazes me to find some people here, that actually believe the non-elite don't have a right to defend themselves and their property.


223 posted on 09/08/2005 5:14:09 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: Hank Rearden
Yeah?

So where do you think "Republicans" will think of this?

224 posted on 09/08/2005 5:14:35 PM PDT by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
The wealthy elite can hire a few private soldiers and pay off the bureaucrats to protect themselves and continue to steal your property.

It'll be interesting to see how THAT plays out.

225 posted on 09/08/2005 5:15:55 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: Hank Rearden
So where what do you think "Republicans" will think of this?
226 posted on 09/08/2005 5:16:06 PM PDT by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: Black Tooth

Just saw an agent, do know what agency but he just SLAMMED a an old womnan against the wall and arrested her. She was refusing to leave her home and without provocation he attacked while Fox filmed it.


UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!


227 posted on 09/08/2005 5:16:06 PM PDT by RedMonqey
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To: BenLurkin

My God...this reminds me of the Warsaw Ghetto.

Ed


228 posted on 09/08/2005 5:17:12 PM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: Mike Darancette
If they are still in NO then they are law breakers, lawbreakers should not be armed.

What law are they breaking? Please cite the applicable portion of the U.S. or Louisiana code.

229 posted on 09/08/2005 5:17:20 PM PDT by Sloth (Archaeologists test for intelligent design all the time.)
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To: michigander
So where do you think "Republicans" will think of this?

Nothing. The Republican Party, judging from the last few years, is not of a mind to enhance liberty or get Big Stupid Government to back off.

Yet they laughably think normal people will support them.

230 posted on 09/08/2005 5:18:00 PM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: snowsislander
This is an obscenity

Yes, and a rehearsal, a trial run. They want to see how it goes over with the sheeple.

231 posted on 09/08/2005 5:18:25 PM PDT by Graymatter
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To: mewzilla
The landowners may also be victims of emminent domain. Anyone who thinks Nagin and his city government wouldn't sell out small time private property owners needs to buy this bridge in Brooklyn from me...

I think we may be seeing the beginning of exactly that. The article states that the disarming is being done in advance of a mass forced evacuation. I think once the evac is complete we may hear that the remaing structures had to be destroyed for structural damage or "contamination". NO could become one big Kelo case. Condemn it all, pay off the landowners with federal money and divide it up among the politically connected "developers" who'll reap the lion's share of the redevelopment money (and share with their politician friends that made it all happen).

232 posted on 09/08/2005 5:20:36 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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Yeah, so where is the ACLU with their lawyers to defend this woman's (and everyone else's)constitutional rights? Especially the Second Amendment right.

Don't hold your breath


233 posted on 09/08/2005 5:21:01 PM PDT by 57chevypreterist
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To: RedMonqey
Just saw an agent, do know what agency but he just SLAMMED a an old womnan against the wall and arrested her. She was refusing to leave her home and without provocation he attacked while Fox filmed it.

So no one gets me wrong, I am 100 percent pro-law enforcement.

However, you do not, especially in situations like this, treat the good, law abiding like crap, nor do you attempt to take the firearms from those that are NOT breaking the law. PERIOD.

In the LA 92 riots, the cops left, and a hell of a lot of people grabed their arms, including thousands of Koreans.

Trust me, NO ONE even thought of taking their arms! Matter of fact, many cops were glad they busted out the weapons.

234 posted on 09/08/2005 5:21:06 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: Hank Rearden
Nothing.

Sadly this has proven to be true. :(

235 posted on 09/08/2005 5:23:35 PM PDT by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: TXBubba; All

I would take this report with a major grain of salt. Firstly, the NYT as we know are themselves gun grabbers, so it is in their interest for us readers to believe that the NOLA folks are grabbing all guns (and that, of course, the klymers fully approve and want to see it done everywhere!). I'd like to see the actual plan - it may be far more limited than this article makes it appear. Need to hear from someone on or near the scene on this one. Anyone out there close enough to this to provide the real scoop?


236 posted on 09/08/2005 5:24:38 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Avenger

" Once everything is in place the Beast will rise out of the fathomless Pit and take the reigns of power and rule over the entire Earth."

But Hilliary lives in Chapaqua!

Ed


237 posted on 09/08/2005 5:24:50 PM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: Black Tooth

Look where our leaders have led us since '92. Pretty far left. What a mess.


238 posted on 09/08/2005 5:25:07 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: two23
"Is physically removing property owners from their homes legal?"

Nowadays bureaucrats believe any pronouncement they make has the force of law and are willing to send armed men against the citizenry to prove it. What's worse the majority of the citizenry believes them.
239 posted on 09/08/2005 5:25:49 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: Revel
I believe in accuracy, even about me. Should I throw in a medical history and a list of heart attacks to show my defects? Would that make my legal arguments either more, or less, believable?

John / Billybob
240 posted on 09/08/2005 5:26:59 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Mayor Nagin is personally responsible for 6 times the American deaths as the Iraq War.)
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