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New Orleans Begins Confiscating Firearms as Water Recedes
Ny Times ^ | September 8 | ALEX BERENSON and TIMOTHY WILLIAMS

Posted on 09/08/2005 3:40:23 PM PDT by RDTF

Waters were receding across this flood-beaten city today as police officers began confiscating weapons, including legally registered firearms, from civilians in preparation for a mass forced evacuation of the residents still living here.

No civilians in New Orleans will be allowed to carry pistols, shotguns, or other firearms, said P. Edwin Compass, the superintendent of police. "Only law enforcement are allowed to have weapons," he said.

But that order apparently does not apply to the hundreds of security guards whom businesses and some wealthy individuals have hired to protect their property. The guards, who are civilians working for private security firms like Blackwater, are openly carrying M-16's and other assault rifles. Mr. Compass said he was aware of the private guards, but that the police had no plans to make them give up their weapons.

Nearly two weeks after the floods began, New Orleans has turned into an armed camp, patrolled by thousands of local, state, and federal law enforcement officers, as well as National Guard troops and active-duty soldiers. While armed looters roamed unchecked last week, the city is now calm. No arrests were made on Wednesday night or this morning, and police received only 10 calls for service, a police spokesman said.

The city's slow recovery is continuing on other fronts as well, local officials said at a press conference late this morning. Pumping stations are now operating across much of the city, and many taps and fire hydrants have water pressure. Also, tests have shown no evidence of cholera or other dangerous diseases in flooded areas, though health officials have said the waters contain levels of E. coli bacteria and lead 10 times higher than what is considered safe.

Efforts to recover corpses have also started, although only a handful of bodies have been recovered so far.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: 2a; bang; banglist; bloat; fmcdh; incompetence; jbt; katrina; katrinafailures; molonlabe; outrage; policestate; rkba; scary; whereisaclu
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To: DrewsDad; Gracey; TheSarce; The Bat Lady; tarawa; pamlet; beaversmom

Have you seen this yet?


121 posted on 09/08/2005 4:20:19 PM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: RDTF

Democrats are confiscating firearms from law-abiding citizens. No surprise there.


122 posted on 09/08/2005 4:20:24 PM PDT by billnaz (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?)
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To: RDTF

Can anyone put up or FReepmail me a link to this thread, I have a long list to forward it to.

Thanks in advance.


123 posted on 09/08/2005 4:21:01 PM PDT by tall_tex
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To: mewzilla
mewzilla wrote:

If the federal government thinks this is such a dandy idea, why didn't they do it legally by declaring martial law?

It is extremely doubtful that the feds could constitutionally justify martial law in this situation.

124 posted on 09/08/2005 4:21:31 PM PDT by dimquest
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To: RDTF

Definitely not legal.
They picked a bad day to quit listening to their lawyers.


125 posted on 09/08/2005 4:21:33 PM PDT by Graymatter
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To: WillMalven; Volunteer; Howlin

This thread ought to be a W#$ Dream for you.


126 posted on 09/08/2005 4:21:33 PM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: mewzilla
Yes, it is legal if, as I understand from a number of sources that martial law has officially been declared in New Orleans.

Martial law, as its name implies, means rule by the military on its own rules of engagement. No military in history has ever taken kindly to potential hostiles carrying weapons in the territory it's trying to quell and control. Nor should it.

Once civilian rule is reestablished, all those with permits to own and carry weapons should get them back, with no charges filed.

John / Billybob
127 posted on 09/08/2005 4:22:06 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Mayor Nagin is personally responsible for 6 times the American deaths as the Iraq War.)
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To: Nov3

This isnt real.


128 posted on 09/08/2005 4:22:19 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Pitchforks and Lanterns..with a smiley face!)
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To: RDTF
Well the intent was to disarm the looters and snipers, and somebody decided that to do that, they have to disarm all.

The elderly lady that they evicted early today or late yesterday who was on all the news, she was holding her own against the evictors, arguing that she had plenty of food, water etc. It was pretty much a standoff.

Then when trying to convince the cops that she could take care of herself, she mentioned "and I have a gun", so they would know she had self-protection.

That's when they tackled her.

129 posted on 09/08/2005 4:23:05 PM PDT by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: samadams2000

I have been watching it on TV.


130 posted on 09/08/2005 4:23:22 PM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
I'm not quibbling with the result necessarily, just the method. So state martial law can trump the Constitution? Even something like habeus corpus?
131 posted on 09/08/2005 4:24:34 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Yes, it is legal if, as I understand from a number of sources that martial law has officially been declared in New Orleans.

Now I have been away from the TV for several hours but did the Governor declare martial law? Last I heard she wasn't.

132 posted on 09/08/2005 4:25:07 PM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: RDTF

Unbelievable bookmark.


133 posted on 09/08/2005 4:25:21 PM PDT by Betis70 (Every generation needs a new revolution)
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To: mewzilla
Legal or not, they are doing it.

Even more reason the ppl should
pack it in and leave.

Maybe taking their guns, is a
ploy to convince the to leave?

I think if they stay, they may
die slow painful deaths from
sickness & disease. If not
from lack of food & water.

When rescuers have decided
they're through searching,
there will be no more water
and food supplies delivered.
Then how will stayers live?

NO will be a virtual ghost
town and totally uninhabitable
for several months or years to come.
134 posted on 09/08/2005 4:25:42 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: Trout-Mouth

That's the way I feel!


135 posted on 09/08/2005 4:26:12 PM PDT by JOE43270 (JOE43270 America voted and said we are One Nation Under God with Liberty and Justice for All.)
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To: tacticalogic; jocon307
What in heck's name is really going on down there?

Massive land grab?

Possibly. This disaster has set the perfect stage for a massive application of the recent "Kelo vs New London" eminent domain ruling.

136 posted on 09/08/2005 4:26:29 PM PDT by tarheelswamprat (This tagline space for rent - cheap!)
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To: mewzilla
Even something like habeus corpus?

As I remember suspension of habeus corpus is allowed for in the constitution. I have never seen the precedent for suspension of the RKBA.

137 posted on 09/08/2005 4:26:30 PM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: the Deejay
Mayor Nagin rescinds 2nd Amendment in New Orleans
138 posted on 09/08/2005 4:26:43 PM PDT by BurbankKarl (Got Bus?)
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To: the Deejay

Do the boots taste good at least?


139 posted on 09/08/2005 4:27:11 PM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: Nov3

In the federal constitution. I thought federal law trumped state law?


140 posted on 09/08/2005 4:27:15 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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