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Katrina Live Thread, Part XI
Various ^ | 30 August 2005 | Various

Posted on 08/30/2005 1:34:04 PM PDT by NautiNurse

The situation in New Orleans continues to deteriorate due to rising water levels and desperation. Search and rescue continues via boat and air. Authorities have announced the goal to evacuate all the remaining residents of NOLA. The New Orleans Mayor has reported numerous gas leaks throughout the city. Sporadic fires occurring. Attempts to evacuate hundreds of hospital patients from Charity Hospital and Tulane Medical Center are in process. Patients are being transported to other hospitals as far away as Florida.

The Army Corps of Engineers is at the NOLA levee breaks with current plans to drop 3000 lb sand bags in an effort to stop the flow of water. NOLA hospital evacuations continue for thousands of patients. Reports indicate all evacuees are being taken to the SuperDome, which is now surrounded by water. The generators at the Dome are now in jeopardy. The Governor of Louisiana has called for a day of prayer tomorrow...

Elsewhere, search and rescue continue in Mississippi and Alabama. Biloxi reports indicate catastrophic damage.

Links to various news and local government websites:

WLOX TV Biloxi, Gulfport, Pascagula has link to locate family and friends (very slow load)

2theAdvocate - Baton Rouge Includes Slidell, St. John Parish, St. Bernard Parish updates, and other locations.

NOLA.com

Inside Houma Today needing boats, volunteers, lists gas station openings, water, etc.

WALA Channel 4 Mobile, AL Includes links to distribution centers, Emergency Ops, etc.

Sun-Herald Gulfport MS Includes link to town by town reports

Gulfport News via Topix.net

WAFB Baton Rouge

Mobile Register via al.com

Mississippi updates via Jackson Ledger

Lafayette LA Daily Advertiser

Pensacola News Journal

St Bernard Local Government

Streaming Video:
WWL-TV (via KHOU/Houston): http://www.wwltv.com/cgi-bin/bi/video/makeadplaylist.pl?title=beloint_khou&live=yes

WKRG/Mobile: mms://wmbcast.mgeneral.speedera.net/wmbcast.mgeneral/wmbcast_mgeneral_aug262005_1435_95518

WDSU/New Orleans via WAPL/Jackson: mms://a842.l1291238841.c12912.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/842/12912/v0001/reflector:38841

All are Windows Media Player links.


Related FR Threads:

FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread

Discussion Thread - Hurricane Katrina - What Went Wrong?!?

Post Hurricane Katrina IMAGES Here

Looting Begins In New Orleans

Martial Law Declared in New Orleans


Due to the number of requests to assist, the following list of some charities is provided.
This is not intended as an endorsement for any of the charities.

www.redcross.org or 1-800 HELP NOW - note: website is slow
Salvation Army - 1-800-SAL-ARMY or Salvation Army currently looking for in-state volunteers - (888)363-2769
Operation Blessing: (800) 436-6348.
America's Second Harvest: (800) 344-8070.
Catholic Charities USA: (800) 919-9338, or www.catholiccharitiesusa.org.
Christian Reformed World Relief Committee: (800) 848-5818.
Church World Service: (800) 297-1516 or online at www.churchworldservice. org.
Lutheran Disaster Response: (800) 638-3522.
Nazarene Disaster Response: (888) 256-5886.
Presbyterian Disaster Assistance: (800) 872-3283.
Wal-Mart Stores Inc. is accepting donations at its 3,800 stores and Web site, www.walmart.com.

Previous Threads:

Katrina Live Thread, Part X
Katrina Live Thread, Part IX
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VIII
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VII
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VI
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part V
Hurricane Katrina, Live Thread, Part IV
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part III
Katrina Live Thread, Part II
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part I
Tropical Storm 12


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Alabama; US: Florida; US: Louisiana; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: aftermath; hurricane; hurricanekatrina; katrina; livehurricanekatrina
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To: Political Junkie Too

No museum ships would be operable without months of work.

Anyway, The Bataan is on its way; obviously all Naval vessels fled the area because of the storm, and they generally cruise at about 20 knots, so it's not like they can suddenly teleport in to New Orleans.


561 posted on 08/30/2005 2:41:16 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: lugsoul
..strangely compelling

heard that   

562 posted on 08/30/2005 2:41:25 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: AmericanInTokyo

If Bush comes near the area in any capacity too soon, it will hamper rescue and other recovery efforts. Security and protection of the president consumes huge resources.


563 posted on 08/30/2005 2:41:31 PM PDT by mwl1
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To: Richard Kimball

The field at the Superdome may well well be under water by now. I heard there was 3-4 ft of it there.


564 posted on 08/30/2005 2:41:42 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC ("Anytime a liberal squeals in outrage, an angel gets its wings!" - gidget7)
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To: Conservababe

OMG the prisoners all outside on CNN


565 posted on 08/30/2005 2:41:44 PM PDT by RDTF
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To: milagro
Why didn't they evacuate the Super Dome at 3 am when they knew the city was going to fill??? Round up some school buses and just go?
They could have kept it open for those who came later but it still would have been at least some people out.
566 posted on 08/30/2005 2:41:50 PM PDT by lizma
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To: Dog

Prisoners on CNN video....in Orleans Parrish being moved


567 posted on 08/30/2005 2:41:58 PM PDT by Dog ( "Go tell the Spartans, stranger passing by, that here, obedient to their laws, we lie.")
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To: NautiNurse

Why any evacuation plan/shelter plan was doomed:

I have lived in the South most of my life. I lived in Covington; my wife and her family lived in Louisiana (my wife until we were married 22 years ago.) I still have two brothers in the south Louisiana area, I hope. This to give a view on my perspective.

Society has classes today as much as any time in the past. It comes from a natural desire to group with people of like mind and background. Witness Free Republic, for goodness sake. These classes should not be thought of as a rigid caste system, and not necessarily hierarchical. It is a social thing, such as a voluntary family. I tried to think about some of the groups in New Orleans that I know of and how they would react.

The Lawless: Street gangs and hangers on. They would have looked at this order, if they heard it, with suspicion. They would think of going to the Superdome as a trap. They do not trust authority.

The long time East siders: (This is where they are doing most of the plucking of people from roofs.) Many look back to Betse and the fact that the city does not take care of them. Their fathers had to care for themselves with no help from the city. Or so the story would have been retold. They were not going to go somewhere that they had to rely on the city.

The religious poor: This group would have counted on God to care for them. And they would not have wanted to go to the Superdome and expose themselves to the criminal element that they thought would be there. They had no way out and yet thought that they were in more danger from the groups now doing the looting than from a storm.

The young: "I am immortal. It is always the other guy that gets hurt. It will turn anyway, they always do."

The affluent: "This house was built to withstand anything. I'm certainly not associating with those at the shelter, nor am I going to become a refugee. Besides, I have to keep people from looting this place."


To a lot of these people, the hurricane last year was as bad as they thought it could get. It was magnitudes above that.

This is also not an attempt to defend the lack of real planning that seems to have been done beforehand. Knowing that one in six families had no way out, what could they do with them? If the Superdome was the only available shelter, they would have had to put 250,000+ in there if everyone had obeyed the order. There were no other places to put a shelter that had a good enough survivability without sending them somewhere else. They had made no arrangements for that. Lack of planning doomed a lot of people to a horrible time or death. I feel for them all.


568 posted on 08/30/2005 2:42:05 PM PDT by Ingtar (Understanding is a three-edged sword : your side, my side, and the truth in between ." -- Kosh)
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To: jveritas

Sounds good, but the Mississippi will rise drastically when the run off gets to New Orleans.


569 posted on 08/30/2005 2:42:20 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (WHEN JANE FONDA STARTS HER TOUR, LET ME KNOW WHERE SHE IS)
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To: apackof2

CNN showing footage of NO prisoners sitting on the road outside the flooded prison.


570 posted on 08/30/2005 2:42:31 PM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (an enemy of islam -- Joe Boucher; Leapfrog; Dr.Zoidberg; Lazamataz; ...)
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To: r9etb

Except that lake is fed by the Gulf. Not a good thing. Understand why you said so, but it is dire in either case.


571 posted on 08/30/2005 2:42:31 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: AaronInCarolina

You're right, I misread it. By rights, there shouldn't be any water there. I wonder if there is?


572 posted on 08/30/2005 2:42:36 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: lugsoul

LOL


573 posted on 08/30/2005 2:42:37 PM PDT by beckybea (Never ask a man where he's from. If he's from Texas;he'll tell you.If he's not,don't embarrass him.)
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To: All

I just got home from work and saw the video from Gulfport. It looks just like Homestead, Fl. Total devestation.

On a positive note however on the way home from work the energy company trucks were convoying their way west. Help IS on the way.


574 posted on 08/30/2005 2:42:42 PM PDT by Gardener
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To: AmericanInTokyo

If Bush turns up in New Orleans the liberal Commies will be crying their eyes out that Bush is wasting critical supplies.


575 posted on 08/30/2005 2:42:43 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: the Deejay

you know all the navy ships we decommission?

why don't we fit them out as emergency craft and disperse them all over huricane prone areas?

i know it'd be expensive, but it seems like a decent idea....I imagine an old aircraft carrier could shelter a lot of folks, and provide a command center...


576 posted on 08/30/2005 2:42:49 PM PDT by Will_Zurmacht
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To: the Deejay

"To: jeffers

I had NOT HEARD that."

To the best of my knowlege, the Venezualan and Russian offers of aid are genuine, but the Iran report turned out to have been posted in jest.


577 posted on 08/30/2005 2:42:49 PM PDT by jeffers
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To: Conservababe

CNN is showing prisoners from a prison stranded on an interstate ramp...hundreds. They are being guarded.


578 posted on 08/30/2005 2:42:56 PM PDT by GOP_Proud (Those who preach tolerance most, have the least for my views.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo; nwctwx

WWL-TV said (and showed footage) of police officer that has been shot in West Bank. He approached a looter at a gas station and while he was talking with them another looter came from behind and shot him in the back of the head. WWL showed footage of officer being wheeled to an ambulance. Did not report if he survived. How bad will it get?


579 posted on 08/30/2005 2:43:01 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (Pray fervently for those affected by Hurricane Katrina.)
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To: All
CNN showing video of maybe hundreds of Prisoners in orange jump suits being detained by gurards with guns, waiting to be rescued. Unbelieveable!

sw

580 posted on 08/30/2005 2:43:01 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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