Katrina Live Thread, Part XI

Various ^ | 30 August 2005 | Various

[NautiNurse]

The situation in New Orleans continues to deteriorate due to rising water levels and desperation. Search and rescue continues via boat and air. Authorities have announced the goal to evacuate all the remaining residents of NOLA. The New Orleans Mayor has reported numerous gas leaks throughout the city. Sporadic fires occurring. Attempts to evacuate hundreds of hospital patients from Charity Hospital and Tulane Medical Center are in process. Patients are being transported to other hospitals as far away as Florida.

The Army Corps of Engineers is at the NOLA levee breaks with current plans to drop 3000 lb sand bags in an effort to stop the flow of water. NOLA hospital evacuations continue for thousands of patients. Reports indicate all evacuees are being taken to the SuperDome, which is now surrounded by water. The generators at the Dome are now in jeopardy. The Governor of Louisiana has called for a day of prayer tomorrow...

Elsewhere, search and rescue continue in Mississippi and Alabama. Biloxi reports indicate catastrophic damage.

Links to various news and local government websites:

WLOX TV Biloxi, Gulfport, Pascagula has link to locate family and friends (very slow load)

2theAdvocate - Baton Rouge Includes Slidell, St. John Parish, St. Bernard Parish updates, and other locations.

NOLA.com

Inside Houma Today needing boats, volunteers, lists gas station openings, water, etc.

WALA Channel 4 Mobile, AL Includes links to distribution centers, Emergency Ops, etc.

Sun-Herald Gulfport MS Includes link to town by town reports

Gulfport News via Topix.net

WAFB Baton Rouge

Mobile Register via al.com

Mississippi updates via Jackson Ledger

Lafayette LA Daily Advertiser

Pensacola News Journal

St Bernard Local Government

Streaming Video:
WWL-TV (via KHOU/Houston): http://www.wwltv.com/cgi-bin/bi/video/makeadplaylist.pl?title=beloint_khou&live=yes

WKRG/Mobile: mms://wmbcast.mgeneral.speedera.net/wmbcast.mgeneral/wmbcast_mgeneral_aug262005_1435_95518

WDSU/New Orleans via WAPL/Jackson: mms://a842.l1291238841.c12912.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/842/12912/v0001/reflector:38841

All are Windows Media Player links.

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Discussion Thread - Hurricane Katrina - What Went Wrong?!?

Post Hurricane Katrina IMAGES Here

Looting Begins In New Orleans

Martial Law Declared in New Orleans

Due to the number of requests to assist, the following list of some charities is provided.
This is not intended as an endorsement for any of the charities.

www.redcross.org or 1-800 HELP NOW - note: website is slow
Salvation Army - 1-800-SAL-ARMY or Salvation Army currently looking for in-state volunteers - (888)363-2769
Operation Blessing: (800) 436-6348.
America's Second Harvest: (800) 344-8070.
Catholic Charities USA: (800) 919-9338, or www.catholiccharitiesusa.org.
Christian Reformed World Relief Committee: (800) 848-5818.
Church World Service: (800) 297-1516 or online at www.churchworldservice. org.
Lutheran Disaster Response: (800) 638-3522.
Nazarene Disaster Response: (888) 256-5886.
Presbyterian Disaster Assistance: (800) 872-3283.
Wal-Mart Stores Inc. is accepting donations at its 3,800 stores and Web site, www.walmart.com.

Previous Threads:

Katrina Live Thread, Part X
Katrina Live Thread, Part IX
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VIII
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VII
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VI
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part V
Hurricane Katrina, Live Thread, Part IV
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part III
Katrina Live Thread, Part II
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part I
Tropical Storm 12

[Howlin]

Because YOU Posted to me first and you KEEP posting to me, even after you said TWICE you weren't going to post to me anymore.

Just another armchair expert on whatever the "hot issue of the day" happens to be

Just like you.

[RepublicanArmy]

Ok now for those jumping on Howlin about the PA system stuff I think you should also realize that most PA systems are set up where u can disconnect speakers and amplifiers. It would take less electricity to speak over the PA system then it does to run 1 of the lights if they break it down to just one speaker facing the area where the ppl are sitting at.

Now flame me if ya want for it...

[buckleyfan]

Well get me the hell off your ping list:).

I don't think I have one! I know I'm not on it.. :)

[beaver fever]

I'm with you get the babies and the mothers out first.

[Howlin]

We've gotten sidetracked on the PA system (wonder why.......LOL), but the entire point is that they aren't bothering to tell the people inside what is going on or what is going to happen to them. They are totally clueless as to what is going on outside those walls.

[bayourant]

I am just saying that the people need to look up the definition of catastrophic. Thats what we are dealing with here. Alot was theory now its reality I just dont see how other govts with the unique circumstances esp dealing with geology and economics could have done much better

[garandgal]

What's next, containment areas under the interstates?

I heard them ask earlier on CNN for everyone to call with ideas...maybe you should call it in!

Some lady called in with the idea about cruise ships that's been floating around here for days. The Governor and some other official (sorry, can't keep them straight anymore) seized upon it as a brilliant idea, and asked for citizens to contact them with more!

For years, I've heard the Red Cross, FEMA, and other agencies talk about the fact that a hit on NO by a hurricane would be the ultimate natural disaster in the U.S. Apparently, they spent a whole lot of time talking, and.....

[nunya bidness]

(except when it seems the waters will go ten feet above for mysterious reasons, that no one has bothered to explain).

It's been explained to you countless times but that won't make you accept it. Water levels don't count when you add "flow" to the equation. At some point an engineer will hammer this out and you might get it but being a lawyer and contrary by nature that's not absolute.

[Torie]

The evac was folks getting into their cars and driving away, and a late contraflow. How heroic.

[RepublicanArmy]

Yeah I know Howlin it's idiotic to say the least but as for the PA system thing I figured I'd put in my 2 cents before it got worse.

[Howlin]

and asked for citizens to contact them with more!

Oh, I see; Instead of group therapy, they can have group disaster?

FGS, that's insane. Can a "task force" be far behind?

[meadsjn]

Thanks. It's great to hear some good news.

[Howlin]

The evac was folks getting into their cars and driving away

LOL>......see how simple the plan was?

[bayourant]

I think that its being communicated thats its a disaster out there. Now as to question there hearing when can I go home. There's no answer to that. To the question whats next. The answer is its being worked out but you want be abandoned. That is being communicated to them by the guard and red cross officials as well as local officials

[fatima]

OK,I beleive you Bla Ba Bla-go to bed and Good night and God bless,fatima

[Torie]

Granted I am obtuse, with poor reading comprehension and reasoning skills, but I will "get it" when someone confirms the lake is ten feet above sea level, rather than 9 inches, or 3 feet, or 4 feet, take your pick, like advertised this afternoon, and will gain another five feet in over the evening, and explains why.

[buckleyfan]

Just like you.

That's where you're wrong. You won't even listen to people who LIVE in New Orleans or LA. You're "learnin' as you go," just as I see you do in almost every news discussion on this site. Geez, there's nothing wrong with having an opinion, but sometimes it pays to step back and say "okay maybe everything I've seen or read in the last TWO DAYS (or whatever) might not give me the fullest picture to tell everybody exactly how things are, and should be."

I'm not from New Orleans, but I did take an intern job and live there for a summer, and have made a point to go back and visit as often as possible - and during that summer I took it upon myself to learn as much about the history and the societal situation (good to know - cause NOLA can be a rough place if you find yourself in the wrong part of town) as possible.

My friend's family has been in the Louisiana political system for generations. From what he tells me, it's amazing they've managed as well as they have. There is corruption, poverty, cultural problems that have continually plagued the entire state, and New Orleans is a nexus of that. They can barely pay their police officers or teachers, much less put in place a catastrophic hurricane plan. For years, they've just been lucky. The luck ran out. Blame anyone you want, but in the end, it's just a sad disaster.

Now I really will try to go to bed, but if you keep posting to me, and toss insults my way, I will be hard-pressed not to respond.

-Out

[fatima]

OK and what kind of syrup.Ham or sausage or scrapple on the side:)

[nunya bidness]

Granted I am obtuse, with poor reading comprehension and reasoning skills, but I will "get it" when someone confirms the lake is ten feet above sea level, rather than 9 inches, or 3 feet, or 4 feet, take your pick, like advertised this afternoon, and will gain another five feet in over the evening, and explains why.

Here's why: the lake level may or may not be higher but the bigger question is where is the water going? If you answer in to one of the bowls you might be getting it.

Get it?

[bayourant]

No it wasnt. You see most people just see the New orleans picture and dont see the whole scope. I was involved in the evac in the late ninties it was a disaster. The problem was every one in all the parishes left at the same time. What happened and what happened here was that diff parishes were given mandatory evac at diff times partly as to not create gridlock on the roads. That happened here. Also there was no such thing as contra flow when I evaced and according to most editorials in local newspapers they appaluded how it went this time. YOu also dont flood the roadways without having the necessary law enforecemt, aid station ,and roadside assistance available. Plus the number of shelters you have to set up for this relocation is great. At the same time govt handling the safe evac they are having to handle preparations for a disater. See this is my point about understanding the situation. THeres just a reality that intrudes when that many people are moving at the same time. PLus the evacuation of special needs cases plus a hundred other things.