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Update: Hurricane Katrina is NOW CATEGORY FIVE!
NOAA & The Weather Channel ^ | August 27, 2005

Posted on 08/27/2005 11:46:06 PM PDT by Crazieman

Broadcast on the weather channel, soon to be posted around the net.

Webcams show traffic is light at this AM, soon to fill quickly. Freepers and friends in New Orleans should flee now!

First Hurricane evacuation in New Orleans history (so its said)


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Alabama; US: Louisiana; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: bigblow2005; bugoutnow; evacuation; getoutoftown; hurricane; hurricanekatrina; katrina; neworleans; nomandatory; prayersforno
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To: dixiechick2000

Does the Superdome have an upper deck?


141 posted on 08/28/2005 6:18:07 AM PDT by HuronMan
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To: dixiechick2000

Does the Superdome have an upper deck?


142 posted on 08/28/2005 6:18:30 AM PDT by HuronMan
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To: jpsb

Thanks for the ping.


143 posted on 08/28/2005 6:19:45 AM PDT by SouthTexas
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To: SouthTexas; All

Why don't y'all come over to the Live Thread?


144 posted on 08/28/2005 6:24:22 AM PDT by don-o (Don't be a Freeploader. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor!)
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To: don-o

Will do, trying to catch up.


145 posted on 08/28/2005 6:25:47 AM PDT by SouthTexas
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To: zarf
I finally go in touch with relatives in South Florida via cell. They said this was the worst Cat 1 they have been through. They said the winds were very under rated and had considerable damage. Power is still out.

It had very strong gusts, but it didn't seem any worse than the fringes of the storms we went through last year. And I went through the fringe of Andrew and Katrina wasn't anywhere near that powerful. Andrew had a steady howling wind. Katrina strengthened and got better organized just as it hit the coast. It didn't weaken much as it went over land and the turn southwest caused it to hit areas that weren't expecting it.

146 posted on 08/28/2005 6:30:21 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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To: Crazieman
Towns like Pilottown and Venice may get wiped out because they are on such low lying areas near the mouth of the Mississippi River.

Sadly, the oil industry relies on some of these coastal towns and facilities.

So this storm may cause additional spikes in gasoline, oil, and natural gas prices.

147 posted on 08/28/2005 6:37:42 AM PDT by topher (God bless and protect our troops and service personnel around the world)
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To: Crazieman
groan... This storm still has 24 hours to strengthen...

It could gain strength to almost rival Hurricane Camille.

148 posted on 08/28/2005 6:39:50 AM PDT by topher (God bless and protect our troops and service personnel around the world)
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To: HuronMan
Does the Superdome have an upper deck?

Whether it does now or not may not matter -- the Superdome could sustain serious damage.

I would say this storm could hit New Orleans with sustained 170 mph winds by landfall.

Add to the fact that Hurricanes usually spawn numerous dangerous tornadoes at the same time...

Jacksonville (MS), Monroe (LA), and Alexandria (LA) should all be safe places to evacuate to. Look for possible tornadoes from around Lafayette (LA) to Mobile (AL) and maybe as far North as Hattiesburg (MS).

The storm is quite large (area that the Hurricane currently has gale force winds and storm squalls).

149 posted on 08/28/2005 6:46:22 AM PDT by topher (God bless and protect our troops and service personnel around the world)
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To: Squantos

Yep. I'm a pilot, and flew out in front of jeanne.
We passed over 150 miles of traffic on I95 that didn't move at all.

It may not be too lare to leave the area, but it will be hard.


150 posted on 08/28/2005 6:47:01 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Keith in Iowa; dixiechick2000
I think you are both right. Just get as far away as possible from the coastal & low lying areas.

You will still get battered, but once inland the storm downgrades rapidly.

The problem that we had when we flew out was finding a place to stay. Everything was booked up everywhere.

We did manage to find a pretty nice place when someone didn't show up.
151 posted on 08/28/2005 6:55:54 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: dk/coro

I haven't looked at the AV forecasts or WX charts, but I believe there is a very large upper trough that is predicted to pull the storm more N/NE.

Not that I would bet the farm on that. 8^)


152 posted on 08/28/2005 7:00:29 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: topher
It could gain strength to almost rival Hurricane Camille.

Alas, given the very warm waters of the Gulf of Mexico right now we could see the strongest storm in the Gulf since Camille in 1969. The damage from this storm could reach over US$100 billion, especially if the city of New Orleans floods from Lake Pontchartrain overflowing its banks.

153 posted on 08/28/2005 7:05:21 AM PDT by RayChuang88
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To: tomahawk

You are right...it will be cataclysmic....here is an example of what a CAT 4 storm surge could do to New Orleans..

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/HAW2/english/surge/new_orleans.shtml


154 posted on 08/28/2005 7:07:05 AM PDT by TexanByBirth
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To: Crazieman
I pray this is not a hurricane Camille type event. That CAT 5 in 1969 hitting near Gulf Port was a monster that swept entire neighborhoods clean.
155 posted on 08/28/2005 7:10:13 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: advance_copy

If the report of 905mb is accurate, the sustained wind estimate is incredibly low....

Camille had sustained winds of 200mph with a central pressure of 902mb....

This isn't a hurricane...

This is a Tornado the size of Texas......

NeverGore :^(


156 posted on 08/28/2005 7:20:11 AM PDT by nevergore (“It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.”)
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To: Keith in Iowa
The storm would follow you North. People need to go East or West.

I have lived in the middle of many evacuations. It is really a crap shoot as to which way to go. Unless you leave very early (like before most employers will release you), you are likely to get caught in traffic snarls and ride out tornados in the open. I was shocked to see I-10 (east-west) at a dead stop for many, many miles at the height of Hurricane Opal. The same was true for the north-south US Highways. The roads were clogged, cars had mechanical problems and/or ran out of fuel. There was little or no food, water, sanitation facilities or emergency responders. I can't imagine what would happen in the event of a heart attack, stroke or prenatal event. Since one rarely knows for certain where the eye will hit or how far out they will encounter tornado volleys, evacuations are crap shoots. Inland folks could be just as well off seeking shelter in a sturdy building and hoping that it can withstand a chance tornado hit. After many years of dodging these monsters, many folks feel that evacuation plans are no better than stampedes initiated by politicians at the last minute to cover their rears.

157 posted on 08/28/2005 7:20:13 AM PDT by ghostrider
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To: mware

Saw a NOAA report last night that waves will be 35-50'.


158 posted on 08/28/2005 7:32:34 AM PDT by conservativeinferno (My SUV is the urban squirrel's worst predator.)
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To: HonkyTonkMan

Anrew was a Cat5 ...one of only three to hit the US last century.

Camille and the 35 Keys storm were the other two.


159 posted on 08/28/2005 7:35:39 AM PDT by wardaddy (dixie deadhead)
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To: ghostrider

The clogged roads you talk about is a good indication of what might happen to any large city in the US faced with sudden evacuation due to a WMD attack. I would have an alternate bugout plan that involved walking out with an A.L.I.C.E. pack, Camelback hydration system MRE's, AR-15 and Kimber .45.


160 posted on 08/28/2005 7:55:41 AM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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