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Another tax increase on the horizon
1 posted on 08/24/2005 11:21:53 AM PDT by hsmomx3
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If Arizona used Daylight Savings Time they would have longer days and wouldn't need to do this :-)


2 posted on 08/24/2005 11:23:35 AM PDT by T Minus Four (Some assembly required.)
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So the problem is not the methods or the materials, but the amount of time they have with the kiddies, huh? And it just so happens that having the kiddies for all this extra time is going to cost more money? How convenient.

HOMESCHOOL!


3 posted on 08/24/2005 11:24:12 AM PDT by savedbygrace ("No Monday morning quarterback has ever led a team to victory" GW Bush)
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Year-around school serves the Nanny State well. It give more time for brain washing and less time for valuable lessons learned through summer jobs and travel vacations.
5 posted on 08/24/2005 11:24:49 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (Where is our Charles Martel? Who will be our hammer against Islam?)
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How about hiring qualified teachers and stop cluttering the curriculum with so much nonsense?
6 posted on 08/24/2005 11:25:29 AM PDT by msnimje
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Reminds me of some bizarre advertisment tactics - "If you don't like our product, for any reason, you get a month's supply free!"

If 180 days of bad practice doesn't work, why would 210 days do any better?

7 posted on 08/24/2005 11:26:18 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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When I went to school.......


Mass was at 6:00 am. School started at 7:30 am and got out at 3:00 with a half hr lunch. That's 7 hrs a day of no-fluff classes lasting 50 minutes. We got out for summer apx June 10 to day after Labor day. I don't know what they do today in AZ, but I bet its much less.


8 posted on 08/24/2005 11:27:26 AM PDT by Integrityrocks
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Taxpayer-funded babysitting for parents whose only contribution to child rearing seems to be conception. And the final results at the end of 12 years are graduates who couldn't pass a 1950 eighth grade graduation test. Just keep piling federal money into the rotten system and the NEA is sure something will accidentally evolve that may look like an education.


10 posted on 08/24/2005 11:30:23 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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That should increase the cost per pupil to about $8K. So I guess I will be getting a $40K refund from the state for sending my five kids to private school. I will be waiting by the mail box.


13 posted on 08/24/2005 11:35:55 AM PDT by azcap
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More money for the teacher's union.


14 posted on 08/24/2005 11:36:35 AM PDT by Clemenza (Proud "Free Traitor" & Capitalist Pig)
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This moron liberal hack certainly is not in tune with reality -- if she was, she would be attacking the real problem which is teaching quality, school accountability and gross mis-management in school systems.

We KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEMS ARE --- and they are NOT the number of hours attended per day. What a bunch of crap -- another liberal trying to hide the real problem, get more tax revenues from the public and stand up crow about something that is totally USELESS.

Welcome to liberalism --


15 posted on 08/24/2005 11:39:18 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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This has got to be one of the dumbest things I've heard of in a long, long time. Yea, right. Add six more weeks of school, longer hours....yes, that'll cure the problem with our publik edgeukashun sistem. Another fine example of stupid is as stupid does. sheesh!


16 posted on 08/24/2005 11:39:27 AM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything)
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Funny, my generation and that before it had 180 day school years and we produced the scientists, engineers etc that made this country capable of winning WW2, rebuilding Europe, and dominating the world economy in the 4 decades after WW2.

That begs the question, why can't they teach kids now like that? Hmm. Could the problem be in the school system, not the students?

Oh yeah, I had 1/2 day kindergarten as a kid. Now they want full day and "voluntary" preschool.

If they can't teach a kid what he needs to learn in 6 1/2 hours a day, they aren't doing it right. I know people whose grade school kids are getting 2 (and more) hours a night of homework. Disgusting. And half of the kids are barely literate by the time they reach HS.

Well, we home-schooled the WGK (World's Greatest Kid) and she is so far ahead of public school grads (academically and in the job world), it's scary. The school system would have gone berserk had they known how little time each day it took to do that.
17 posted on 08/24/2005 11:41:10 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s......you weren't really there.)
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"But the study says every dollar spent on preschool returns $7, both in terms of higher earning as well as avoided costs of crime and remedial education"

From the Department of numbers we just pilled out of our butts


18 posted on 08/24/2005 11:52:46 AM PDT by Ignatius J Reilly
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Like Bill Bennett said about a longer school year:

"You don't make a cake any better by making more of it."


19 posted on 08/24/2005 11:54:00 AM PDT by linkinpunk
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On a positive note, if a Democratic governor increases the length of the school year, more of today's generation of children might become Republicans.


20 posted on 08/24/2005 11:55:08 AM PDT by JillValentine (To the Left, Cindy Sheehan is a sacred cow. To me, she's just a cow.)
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Brought to you by full-time working moms&dads who just don't know what to do with Billy and Susie after school and during the summer. Publik skrewl has become just another daycare option for parents (ergo, lowering the attendance age to 3), with the added benefit of the bill being footed by your friendly neighborhood taxpayers.


24 posted on 08/24/2005 12:30:29 PM PDT by shezza (God Bless Our Troops)
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Parents who work love the idea of putting the kids in school for a full work day.

Teachers love the idea that they can get big raises for these "additional" workdays, even though normally they denounce anybody who says their pay is enough because they don't work all year. (in other words, they say they should be paid like full-time employees, but whenever a day is added to the school year they say they should be paid more for the additional work (I agree with the 2nd point, disagree with the 1st)).

Public Preschool is just a way to destroy church-run preschools, which won't be able to compete with free school and won't be allowed money from the pot for preschool because of the "separation of church and state".

The extra time will allow them to do more diversity training, more anti-drug training, and more sex education.

Why do kids these days need YEARS of sex ed? It isn't really all that hard, is it? And how much time does it really take to say "Drugs are Illegal. Don't Use them".

The School system, typical government: "Hi, we are the school system. We are incompetent, and are failing in our basic task of educating your children. So you should pay us more money, and give us your children at an earlier age, for longer hours, and for more days."


25 posted on 08/24/2005 12:30:52 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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Let's see.

This is totally ludicrous.

What makes one think that what they couldn't teach a child in 180 days, they can accomplish in 210.

We need to stop this and actually let kids be kids. I have a six year old at home who stresses out every evening because she has two hours of homework. Mind you, she leaves the first grade knowing enough to get her through the next couple of grades, but geesh when can she have time to play and enjoy.

I just think that the school systems in the US are doing a poor job at educating our youngsters. They feed them all this dribble that doesn't amount to anything and then punishes them for not knowing enough.
28 posted on 08/24/2005 12:41:16 PM PDT by magnieye (American and Cuban....and proud of both....)
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Wow, I didn't even think of that aspect. Makes perfect sense.

With the extra time, will the students 'catch up' or learn more? In other words, will we see increases in academic performance like charter schools? Or just the same academic performance spread out over longer time, with an additional cry for more tax dollars 'for the children'? Is it a cover for those kids who need summer school to catch up (and mask poor performance of some schools) or will it actually improve kids academic performance and results? I wonder if the Gov cares to answer those questions? (Not!)

34 posted on 08/24/2005 1:12:53 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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I told this to my homeschooled son who has had some curiousity about public schools. I got through about 3/4 of the article before he said, "Enough! I've heard enough!"


35 posted on 08/24/2005 2:08:22 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy (They're coming to take me away.....)
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