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Owner bereft after state takes away her pet duck
Seattle Times ^ | 17 AUG 05 | By Maureen O’Hagan

Posted on 08/20/2005 10:30:03 AM PDT by greydog

In the state of Washington, you can eat as much roasted duck as you please.

You can shoot the occasional duck, provided you follow certain rules.

But you can’t possess a wild duck — a fact that Diane Erdmann didn’t fully grasp until two state Fish and Wildlife officers showed up at her Auburn workplace Friday demanding her pet duck Gooey.

What ensued that afternoon was a bizarre altercation, the seizure of Gooey the duck and two separate criminal investigations. Fish and Wildlife is looking into Erdmann for unlawful possession of wildlife, and the Auburn Police Department is investigating the officers, one of whom allegedly struck Erdmann as he snatched the duck away from her.

Erdmann supplied police with security-camera video, which she said proves her case.

But state Fish and Wildlife officials insist the officers were only doing their job. Nonetheless, they’re looking into Erdmann’s claims to determine whether the officers may have been overzealous.

One thing is clear: just about everyone at Northwest Territorial Mint, where Erdmann is a manager, had grown attached to Gooey.

“It’s a very spoiled little duck,” said company owner Ross B. Hansen.

Erdmann had gotten Gooey from a friend 11 weeks ago, after the duckling had been injured by a crow, she said. An animal lover since childhood, she feared he would die. She bought a book on raising ducks, explaining that she ignored the last two chapters, which were about “butchering and recipes.”

Erdmann kept Gooey under heat lamps, feeding him chicken food and vitamin supplements until he was back in shape. She found a Web site that sold custom-made duck diapers and had a pair fitted for Gooey. And she brought him to work every day.

“People went out of their way to see Gooey,” she said. “They would ask how he was doing, saying, ‘my, hasn’t he grown.’

Erdmann watched as Gooey had his first solo flight on July 26. She even had a commemorative coin made at Northwest Territorial for the occasion.

Life for Gooey was good.

That all changed when the officers showed up in the lobby asking for Erdmann.

Kristin Donovan, assistant to the president, heard the commotion.

“I heard a very loud, very booming, very aggressive-type voice,” she recalled. “He said, ‘give me the duck.’ I heard a pause, then, ‘If you don’t give me the duck, I’m going to arrest you.’

Arrest? Donovan scrambled to call Hansen, who was out of the office but said he’d race back to help.

Meanwhile, Hansen gave very clear orders: No search warrant, no duck.

The officers didn’t see it that way.

“It’s a situation that we run across every year,” explained Fish and Wildlife Capt. Bill Hebner. “People find sick or injured wildlife they believe to be orphaned and they take it into captivity and make pets out of them.

“The agency does not support that concept. We believe wildlife is wildlife and pets are pets and there’s a strong distinction between the two.

Under certain circumstances, people can possess wildlife, but they need a permit and must meet other requirements.

When Erdmann declined to hand Gooey over, she said the officers became more stern. One of them showed her his handcuffs. As she cradled Gooey in her arms, the other one lunged at her and grabbed the duck, striking Erdmann on the chest, she said.

Erdmann filed a complaint with Auburn police, who said they would forward their report to the city prosecutor to decide whether charges should be filed.

Meanwhile, Erdmann and her colleagues are still stunned by how ridiculous it all seems.

“There are a million ducks in Washington,” Hansen said. “It’s not like this is an endangered duck.” And Gooey? A spokesman for the Fish and Wildlife said he is alive and well and living in a rehabilitation center, the location of which will not be disclosed. After all, Hebner said, the center might not want the attention.


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To: greydog
But state Fish and Wildlife officials insist the officers were only doing their job. Nonetheless, they’re looking into Erdmann’s claims to determine whether the officers may have been overzealous jack-booted fascist a-holes.

There. Fixed it.

21 posted on 08/20/2005 10:48:31 AM PDT by Prime Choice (E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
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To: greydog
Go after the ducks but not election fraud, what a bunch of liberal crap. The Duck is very happy and apparently well cared for.Nature would have solved the problem when the Ducky got horny.

Spend thousands of dollars of taxpayers money over a duck?

22 posted on 08/20/2005 10:49:07 AM PDT by BIGZ
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To: greydog

Similar thing happened here in South Texas a few years back with "Bubba," a pet javelina (wild peccary). They actually make good pets, and he was a very loved and spoiled pig, but the Texas Wildlife people came and took him and released him into the brush. It most likely died fairly soon thereafter, since it didn't have a clue as to how to survive out on its own.

But hey! Government knows best, right? Sure they do...


23 posted on 08/20/2005 10:53:15 AM PDT by Marauder (You can't stop sheep-killing predators by putting more restrictions on the sheep.)
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To: HairOfTheDog
Oh - this was posted last week and it's unbelievably stupid behavior by these 'officials'

Fish & Wildlife tend to have the most lunkheads. Caught one a few years ago trying to impress his girlfriend by bossing us civvies around. I told him off in no uncertain terms. Total fascist jerkoff.

24 posted on 08/20/2005 10:54:23 AM PDT by Prime Choice (E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
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To: greydog

WHAT A PACK OF LIVING, BREATHING A$$HOLES!!!!!!!!!!!! If the duck were being abused I could understand this, but the duck plainly was happy. If Gooey had wanted to leave, he would have done it under his own steam. WHERE IS PETA WHEN YOU NEED THEM???? THEY SHOULD DEVOTE THEIR TIME TO INCIDENTS LIKE THIS INSTEAD OF THROWING PAINT/BLOOD ON FURS WORN BY PEOPLE.


25 posted on 08/20/2005 10:55:56 AM PDT by Virginia Queen (Virginia Queen)
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To: greydog
Meanwhile, Erdmann and her colleagues are still stunned by how ridiculous it all seems.

Welcome to America, home of the not-so-free and not-so-brave.

26 posted on 08/20/2005 10:57:00 AM PDT by Mister_Diddy_Wa_Diddy
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To: greydog

If I've said it once, I've said it a million times, If we don't exterminate these dangerous criminals like Diane Erdmann, the terrorists are gonna win, I tell ya.


27 posted on 08/20/2005 10:57:07 AM PDT by Doomonyou (I don't think so, Scooter...)
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To: greydog
The officials had no search warrant. Their seizure of the duck is therefore illegal, and they are therefore guilty of a Federal crime (it's a Federal crime for State officials to violate the Constitutional rights of a US citizen.

Title 18, U.S.C., Section 242) Deprivation of rights under color of law:

Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or to different punishments, pains, or penalties, on account of such person being an alien, or by reason of his color, or race, than are prescribed for the punishment of citizens, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if bodily injury results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.

28 posted on 08/20/2005 10:57:15 AM PDT by sourcery ("Compelling State Interest" is the refuge of judicial activist traitors against the Constitution)
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To: greydog

"Duck season"
"Rabbit season"
"Duck season"
"Rabbit season"
"Rabbit season"
"Duck season"

>BLAMMMMM!!!!!<

wubbawubbawubba


29 posted on 08/20/2005 10:58:07 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad - Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: greydog


Maybe she should camp outside Washington State Governor's office until he answers why he cause her and Gooey this bereavement!

30 posted on 08/20/2005 10:59:03 AM PDT by Zacs Mom (Proud wife of a Marine! ... and purveyor of "rampant, unedited dialogue")
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To: F-117A
bwa-hahahahahahaha......
I've dug these most of my life!
31 posted on 08/20/2005 11:00:33 AM PDT by Zacs Mom (Proud wife of a Marine! ... and purveyor of "rampant, unedited dialogue")
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To: sourcery

It sounds like she's SOL with respect to 18 USC 242 if she is a white anglo-saxon.


32 posted on 08/20/2005 11:02:37 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Freedom of speech makes it much easier to spot the idiots." [Jay Lessig, 2/7/2005])
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To: greydog
When I was 16 (about 1978) I traded an old sleeping bag for a baby Red-Tailed Hawk, she had a broken wing. I went to the library and learned all I could about this animal. I never put her in a cage, or tethered her. I fed her (Screech) live animals, like rats,mice,chickens, etc. I had her about six months before Calif Fish and Game showed up. She was perched on a ladder in the back yard and I ran back and threw her into the air. She flew to the top of the barn and gave me a look like what the heck was that all about. The two wardens told me and my mom that they were not there to confiscate the hawk or to arrest anyone, they just wanted to check her out for diseases and the like. He asked if I could retrieve her from the roof top,and I naievly believed them about them just checking her out. So I whistled her down ( yes, she would come when I whistled) and handed her to Jack Raines the game warden and he handed her to his assistant and told him to put her in a box. He then turned to my mom and told her he was citing me for possession of a bird of prey, and that they were going to destroy her. I asked if I could get a permit or license to keep her he said no. From that point on in my life I have a hard time trusting "authority" as I usually just don't believe a word they say.
I went to juvenile court and the judge threw out the case due to the fact that I never truly had her in my possession as the Hawk was free to fly away at any time. At that time i guess it was illegal to hold them in captivity of some sort.Anyway the judge did chastise the warden for the destruction of the hawk. Stretch" was a really beautiful bird,and all the neighbors liked her
33 posted on 08/20/2005 11:12:07 AM PDT by enuf
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To: Slings and Arrows

She got the duck back, on the condition that she release it when its ready to fly.


34 posted on 08/20/2005 11:16:06 AM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Duck goes home:
http://www.kingcountyjournal.com/sited/story/html/215334


35 posted on 08/20/2005 11:18:19 AM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: greydog

So who was the "good samaritan" that turned her in? How absurd, so Gooey is in a rehab center? Gooey probably misses his real caregiver.


36 posted on 08/20/2005 11:21:54 AM PDT by Burlem
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To: greydog

Already posted here (with recipes):

Owner bereft after state takes away her pet duck
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1465492/posts


37 posted on 08/20/2005 11:22:38 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: greydog
A spokesman for the Fish and Wildlife said he is alive and well and living in a rehabilitation center, the location of which will not be disclosed.

Ahhh, the 'undisclosed location'. Cheney's fault! The VP has Gooey!

38 posted on 08/20/2005 11:23:16 AM PDT by GaltMeister (“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”)
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To: greydog

One day the "authorities" are going to hassle the wrong person.


39 posted on 08/20/2005 11:23:33 AM PDT by somemoreequalthanothers (All for the betterment of "the state", comrade)
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To: CondorFlight

That is sickening. Good grief these jack booted thugs are out of control!


40 posted on 08/20/2005 11:24:37 AM PDT by Burlem
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