Rush Limbaugh's Morning Update: Intelligent Design

RushLimbaugh.com ^ | 8/18/05 | Rush Limbaugh

[wagglebee]

You know that TV crocodile hunting team Steve and Terri Irwin? Well those two can expect some competition in days to come. Scientists in northern Australia have been collecting blood from crocodiles in hopes of saving humans.

Studies in the late 90s showed that several antibodies in croc blood killed penicillin-resistant bacteria. More recently it has been discovered that crocodiles’ immune systems can kill the HIV virus. American scientist Mark Merchant says the reptiles “tear limbs off each other, [but] they heal up very rapidly and normally, almost always without infection.” Aussie scientist Adam Britton adds: “The crocodile has an immune system which attaches to bacteria and tears it apart and it explodes. It’s like putting a gun to the head of the bacteria and pulling the trigger.”

These two scientists draw blood from wild and captive crocs, saltwater and freshwater species. After capturing the donor, they strap its jaws and go for a vein. The vein, Britton says, is “called a sinus, right behind the head, and it’s very easy just to put a needle in the back of the neck and hit this sinus and then you can take a large volume of blood very simply.”

It’ll be years, of course, before croc blood is ready for human use. Their antibodies are so powerful they may have to be diluted. But this is pretty remarkable on two fronts. Once again, proof that embryonic stem cells aren’t the only “miracle” cure for all that ails us. And more importantly, understanding how crocodiles heal points to a pretty intelligent design in nature. Now when are the animal rights people going to start complaining to stop all of this?

[Elsie]

It was He who died on the Cross of Calvary, and there is only confusion in the Bible to those who seek it.

How do you know that THIS is not 'just a story'?

[Elsie]

Genesis speaks of two different days of creation and on both days man was formed.

Oh???

Which two?

[Elsie]

No; I'm not.

Only HE is great.

I merely am blessed with being able to find and post what I think are pertenant(SP?) Scriptures.

[Elsie]

He has already told you that his church does not take it literally.

I guess it means what they say it means.

[Elsie]

Because Christ existed.

How do you know?

Many folks say THAT'S a 'fable, too!

[Elsie]

As for Adam and Eve, I know a fable when I hear one.

 

I guess you're one up on St. Paul then......

 

 

1 Timothy 2:13

  For Adam was formed first, then Eve.   

 

 

[<1/1,000,000th%]

How will humans develop crocodile immune systems?

This will certainly require a miracle. Because one of the other things that crocodile immune systems do very well is destroy human cells.

[Marysecretary]

Well, whatever, thanks for a good reply. I like your tagline, too!

[Bombardier]

Actually, you did. I read your posts. And a fable is a fable, regardless of source. As for dismissing His word, not taking WHAT MAN HAS WRITTEN literally is not dismissing God. As for what God I believe in, I believe in one whose name is not spoken, but is known as Jehovah. And since I can think for myself, I don't take morality stories and fables as literal truth....THEY WERE TOLD TO MAKE A POINT, NOT TO BE HISTORY. If being a Christian requires a literal interpretation of the Bible, then I'll just leave the Church and give atheism a try.....at least that way I won't have to deal with people questioning my faith because I DON'T SHARE THEIR BELIEFS!

(gee....some of these "Christian" responses have a somewhat absolutist tone to them.....sort of like another group of absolutists.....other folks who think they have such a lock on the truth that all other beliefs must be eliminated.....I wonder who they might be?????)

[Bombardier]

Fable: A story with a moral. Get your definitions right, please.

[Elsie]

Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth".

 

There are some questions about this translation. The original Hebrew word usually translated as "God" here is elohim, which is actually the plural form. Literally, this verse reads, "in the beginning, the GODS created the heavens and the earth." This is one of several places in the Bible where God is referred to in the plural. Biblical scholars conclude that these fragments are left over from an early part of Hebrew history when the Jewish religion was, like every other religion on earth at the time, polytheistic, with more than one god. During this time, the god Yahweh was a storm god, one of many others.

 

 

 

DUH!

 

What part of 'US' is unclear????

 

Genesis 1:26

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

 

Biblical scholars = what??

 

Non-trinitarians, obviously!

[wallcrawlr]

Speculation by me that God changed the races at the same time he scattered the people at the Tower of Babel.


vs

ooze + time + more time + even more time = people

[JohnnyM]

First off, don't take my questioning to mean that I don't believe you are Christian. We are Christian if we believe in Christ Jesus as our Lord and Saviour, who died for our sins and rose from the dead. It is not based on our belief in evolution.

I am generally curious, though, how you determine what is truth in the Bible and what is not? How do you know the things they write about Jesus in the Bible are true? How do you know He existed at all? How do you know He died and rose on the third day? These things, as you say, we're all written down by men.

JM

[Elsie]

I really don't think you 'wonder'.

You know exacly.


If you choose not to beleive certain things as true, then that is up to you.

I've seen NO one questioning anyone's salvation in this thread (yet ;^)

[Elsie]

Get your definitions right, please.

?

What did I define as a fable?

[mudblood]

"Actually, there isn't any proof that embryonic stem cells are of any value"

Embryonic stem cells (and I think any stem cells, really) can turn into similarly located cells around them. Depending on what you'd call "proof", this seems very valuable. Its proof enough for me. Thenk God for Bill Frist and Nancy Reagan.

[Just mythoughts]

The sixth day and the day after the seventh day of rest.

Two total different descriptions given especially with that ignored injection of no man to till the ground.

[Sloth]

If the Bible is unreliable, why would you believe that Christ was anything more than some nutty Jewish troublemaker?

[John Scopes]

The Bible means whatever the modern scientist says it means; this is your take isn't it?

Or as you say it means whatever the person reading it says it means.

How do you know this is true?

[wagglebee]

Well then, let me ask you this, if embryonic stem cells have shown as much potential as you claim, why aren't private corporations investing billions of dollars into research? There is no law preventing any private group from pursuing stem cell research, and they are spending lots of money on adult stem cell and cord cells. Biotech companies spend R&D money when they think there will be a future payoff, obviously they see this with adult and cord cells, but they see no such benefit to embryonic stem cells. For that matter, Bill Frist and his family are worth in excess of $100 million and their expertise is in medicine and research, why aren't they investing in this.

When we look at what generally requires government funding, public broadcasting, pornographic artwork, etc., and now embryonic stem cells, a common theme emerges, these are things that are so unimportant and economically unsustainable, that the left has to step in and pay for it with our tax money. The left is pushing embryonic stem cell research for one reason, they think it will serve as a further safeguard for protecting abortion.