Posted on 08/17/2005 7:58:48 AM PDT by Dr._Joseph_Warren
Question:
Ignoring all legal issues....
Would you care/object if your children's teacher was openly (not flaming) gay?
Would it make any difference if the gay teacher was male or female?
Would it make any difference if the gay person taught elementary, middle school or high school?
Not at all.
You're fine. :0)
Yes. Though it is not clear to me what you mean by 'openly gay'. A pink or rainbow colored triangle may not be considered as discreet as a wedding ring on either hand. On the same note, I would care/object if my child's teacher was openly heterosexual. I think it is more important that my child focus on the class lesson rather than her teacher's sexual orientation.
Would it make any difference if the gay teacher was male or female?
No.
Would it make any difference if the gay person taught elementary, middle school or high school?
No.
Thank you for the opportunity to respond.
I am not preoccupied in the least, just know better than to buy into the gay lobbies talking points.
I've lived in San Fran, I have relatives and friends that are gay, I have been exposed to far more of the gay "lifestyle" than you get when MTV decides to roll some film.
What gays say when the camera is on them, versus what they do and say when its not are completely different worlds.
There is a concerted and conscious effort being made by activists to portray homosexuality as no different than anything else. These people don't want the spotlight shined on the reality.
I can be sure they represent about 1% of the general population because many studies have confirmed it, not the 10% kensian bunk that was disproven years ago.
Sidestep the hedonistic selfish behavior by heteros? I'm sorry, but are you blind? When was the last time the sherriffs department had to patrol the woods or bathrooms at your local park because heterosexuals were meeting there every night routinely for anonymous group sex? Or that state police had to patrol rest stops along interstates because of the same activity? You are in la la land.
There is no doubt that some in the heterosexual community engage in hedonistic activities, but as a percentage of the whole they are an overwhelming minority of the heterosexual popuation... among homosexual males however this is not the case. You failing to accept the distinction speaks volumes.
These activities aren't being engaged in by 1/100 or 1/10 of one percent of the homosexuals, but by large percentages.
You can continue to pretend there is no difference, I know that's what the talking points say to do, but there is a huge difference, and that difference speaks volumes.
If I knew somebody was openly gay, there is NO WAY he/she would be my son's teacher.
NO WAY.
They created it when they broke their own rules and foolishly allowed gay "but not practicing" men into the priesthood.
Make a deal with Satan, you wind up with evil.
I have known a lot of gay men and a few gay women in my time. From the hysterical standpoint that they are going to grab the children and force them into lives of homosexuality, there is no issue. Many of the gays I have known find that type of behavior offensive and repulsive, just as heterosexuals.
For me, though, the concern is more one of the role model image that teachers naturally assume as part of their career. Whether intentional or otherwise, the image that a teacher imparts on a kid can be powerful and influence them for life. Even if the teacher makes no reference to his/her sexual orientation and doesn't have an obvious outward appearance of homosexuality, the kids are usually able to figure it out. An openly gay teacher sends the subtle message to kids that anything is okay and permissible.
I don't think it's necessarily fair to deny a gay teacher a position solely on the fact that the teacher is gay. But, until the kids are able to deal competently with the various subtle, social and cognitive issues of their own sexual identity as well as that of the teacher's, putting a gay teacher in the classroom is a bad idea, IMO.
So why should you care about so many whose religious beliefs are affected by this movement to normalcy for the homosexual community?
Well whether or not you worship or believe in a god of any kind, this wholesale buying in to all this wonderful tolerance of sexual deviancy will affect you too, my friend. You say how can this movement destroy the family? How can your grandchild be affected, to be adopted out to some homo couple? Its already happening to a lot of folks I'm afraid, right here in the good 'ol USA.
Religion may not stir your passions, but if it were to happen to you, you wouldn't care for it, to put it mildly. There are families whose adult children are pretty fouled up in their lives, and their children "get into the system". God or somebody help if this happens to you or yours. The social workers have power beyond belief and your means to fight or influence their oh-so-wise-and-enlightened decisions is miniscule in comparison. When we get laws and attitudes to favor and condone, enshrine as rights this perversion, we are all doomed to bend over and take it. (Sorry about that mental image) Our churches (or I guess I should say mine) will be threatened with endless lawsuits to shut up, as these thoughts I am expounding on will become illegal thought crimes, like what is starting to happen in Canada. Don't take my word for it, search right here on Free Republic for endless discussion on this topic about our neighbors to the north.
No tolerance, thats still my advice. That is while you still have a choice
Let me ask a different question:
Would you care/object if your children's teacher was an open alcoholic/child molestor/drug addict/adulterer?
We are all sinners, but the catch-phrase 'open', implies acceptance and not repentance. It implies a belief that this is the norm and is that it is acceptable. We do no service to anyone by pretending 'sin' is acceptable and to be 'celebrated'. It is terrible for the child, it is terrible for society, and it is even worse for the sinner by leading him/her to believe that their self-destructive actions are acceptable and the 'norm'.
pitcher=male role, catcher=female role
How many Rabbi's have been convicted of sexual abuse of children in the past 5 years?
It is a question of numbers, does he belong to a demographice which has a high mortality rate and high cost on company health insurance?
From the examples cited here, homosexuals have a higher rate of high risk sexual encounters.
Actually, C-SPAN put a camera on the Mall in Washington during a gay pride parade and let it roll live without editing. They got calls for weeks about the full frontal nudity and other freaky behavior that went out over C-SPAN live.
Figure of speech, as in one bad apple doesn't spoil the who bunch.
There are thousands of current lawsuits against the Anglican church. Every single denomination has skeletons in their closets. That doesn't mean all priests/ministers are rotten.
Or all school teachers, judges, doctors dentists, coaches...
Any occupation in which a potential pedophile could get access and control over a child should carefully screen aplicants. Homosexuals should be highly suspect for ANY job involving children.
Kind of reminds me of the (inappropriate) joke about the priest and the rabbi spending the day together at the park. As they are sitting on the bench watching some children play, the priest turns to the rabbi and says, "We ought to get some of those young boys and screw them." The rabbi replies, "Out of what?"
Not saying all homosexuals do this, but I do know that some homosexuals will use drugs like viagra so they can handle multiple sexual partners in the same day/night.
I would agree that what people say in 'sexual surveys' is highly questionable. Look at the work that Kinsey did.
I would not want a homosexual teacher, scout leader, pastor, priest, counsellor, street crossing guide, librarian, day care provider, babysitter, pediatric nurse or doctor, Sunday school teacher, tutor, riding instructor, phys ed teacher, sports coach, knitting teacher, sewing instructor, friends' parent, God parent, or any other person of authority who was in contact with my children.
Do I sound harsh? Just a realist - the percentage of homosexuals who are attracted to children is much higher than among the general population. Plus they would be a bad example. There's such a thing as "mortal turpitude" and it can badly influence impressionable children. And all children are impressionable.
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