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1 posted on 08/14/2005 11:13:29 PM PDT by F14 Pilot
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whats going on?


2 posted on 08/14/2005 11:16:07 PM PDT by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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Now this is what I call...blood for oil.


4 posted on 08/14/2005 11:17:16 PM PDT by zarf
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9 posted on 08/14/2005 11:29:16 PM PDT by Cindy
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ping


10 posted on 08/14/2005 11:30:25 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: F14 Pilot

What's going on?

Well . . .

Totalitarian regimes seek, above all else, to survive, and must do so by crushing internal dissent at all costs and by developing external alliances with similarly minded regimes. With Iraq's fall, the new Axis of evil: North Korea, Iran, China, Cuba -and - perhaps in the future - Venezuela.

No mystery here . . . Power, wealth, survival by power, abuse, oppression by any means, and the threat of powerful military retaliation (nuclear) against military powers in open, free societies. The new twist in China is that they seem to be figuring out how to gen up competitively in free markets through government/militarily controlled businesses. Whether they can sustain their incentives to succeed in a competitive world market remains to be seen . . .


15 posted on 08/14/2005 11:35:51 PM PDT by JustTheTruth
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...of some interest?


17 posted on 08/14/2005 11:38:07 PM PDT by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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It looks to me the Red Chinese are trying to sell their U.N. Security Council veto -- when they vote on action taken against Iran's nuclear program. It looks very bad indeed.

Not to worry too much, I am sure Rice and Bolton have figured out how to handle this situation should it arise. We already have seen OFF, this is no different.;^)

19 posted on 08/14/2005 11:38:22 PM PDT by FranklinsTower
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I believe China is hearing footsteps........on their backporch.

Stay safe Ya'll !


20 posted on 08/14/2005 11:38:33 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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This could thow a monkey wrench in possible Israeli air strikes on the nuclear facilities in Iran similar to the 1981 attack on the Osiraq nuclear center in Iraq.


23 posted on 08/14/2005 11:44:38 PM PDT by Rockitz (Geena YES, Hill NO!)
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China, Iran and Russia have been building new economic ties for some time (ease of transportation) and have been getting more involved with each other on security issues including the selling of some pretty fancy hardware (well, fancy for that side of the world) to Iran. The political parties in control in each of those countries are very nationalist in nature to various extents.

...don't yet know who will really be with whom, if China makes a move. Iran is fairly politically isolated, for now, but time is of the essence.

The most wise move for us would be to disseminate as much news as possible on those issues to general populations in friendly countries through the leaders and media in those friendly countries (which kind of public affairs work we've been lagging in for several decades). They should all know that our USA is not the sole potential target for designs of "empire" by overly nationalist regimes.


26 posted on 08/14/2005 11:52:18 PM PDT by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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China, hoping to get oil for an invasion of Taiwan? Mutual defense agreement?


30 posted on 08/14/2005 11:58:19 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Carnac: A siren, a baby and a liberal. Answer: Name three things that whine.)
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I think there's a lot of sh!t that is going to hit the fan in the next six months. I hope that the Pentagon budget and our military contractors are working overtime fullfilling our ordnance inventories.


32 posted on 08/15/2005 12:01:33 AM PDT by Cobra64
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Get ready boys, we're about to have WWIII


36 posted on 08/15/2005 12:32:04 AM PDT by Originalist (Clarence Thomas for Chief Justice!!)
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Suprise!

Ah yeeesh, the Communist Chinese are our friends.

NOT!

Duh.


40 posted on 08/15/2005 12:45:21 AM PDT by porkchops 4 mahound (The only people this will suprise are the same folks who believe that islam is a religion of peace)
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http://www.outlookindia.com/bullseye.asp


Bull’s Eye by Rajinder Puri - Magazine Regulars| 15 Aug 2005

Max Boot from America's Council of Foreign Relations has drawn attention to a PLA publication, Unrestricted Warfare. The publication recommends use of all means to subvert and subjugate America. It supports Al Qaeda. Is the PLA the mastermind behind global terrorism? Consider these facts.

For decades Afghanistan and Myanmar supplied over 80 per cent of the world's poppy to fund terrorism. Both are immediate neighbours of China. Coincidence?

Pakistan is the centre of global terrorist training. But Musharraf admits he cannot control sections of the ISI and army which abet terrorism. What power backs these sections? CIA director Peter Goss said he had a good idea of where Osama bin Laden was hiding. But he could not act because friendly nations were involved. Is he inhibited by Pakistan or China?

Yossef Bodansky, director of the US Congress anti-terrorist task force, has recorded that terrorist strikes against India by Pakistan in the mid-1990s were funded by China. Coincidence?

Mossad director Meir Dagan said China had manufactured the explosives used in the recent London subway bomb blasts. He pinpointed the exact location of the factory—40 miles south of Beijing. Coincidence?

In December 2001, weeks before he was beheaded by Pakistani terrorists, The Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl wrote an article. He disclosed that in late August 2001, days before 9/11, a top Pakistan nuclear scientist, Bashiruddin Mahmoud, met Osama in Kabul. Mahmoud headed the Khusab plutonium factory built with Chinese help. According to French investigative journalist Bernard-Henri Levy, Dr A.Q. Khan, father of Pakistan's N-bomb, was a member of the Lashkar-e-Toiba, an outlet of Al Qaeda. The New York Times reported that in the early 1980s, Dr Khan visited Beijing where the Chinese gave him blueprints for an N-bomb. Coincidence?

On the fateful 9/11 day, a high-level PLA delegation met the ruling Taliban. It signed the contract that Osama had asked for. The PLA provided the Taliban with missile tracking, state-of-the-art communications, and air defense systems. Coincidence? On July 11, 2005, a highly respected intelligence website, G2 Bulletin, reported that two nuclear suitcase bombs have been smuggled across the Mexican border into America. Thousands, including terrorists, have infiltrated that border.

On July 14, 2005, PLA General Zhu Chenghui threatened the US with a nuclear strike that could "destroy hundreds of US cities." Osama is credited with an "American Hiroshima" plot to do the same. Coincidence?

Before 1962, India slept. It paid a heavy price. Today America sleeps. It could pay a fatal price.






(Puri can be reached at rajinderpuri2000@yahoo.com)


42 posted on 08/15/2005 2:47:22 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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LOL nice guns.

not.


43 posted on 08/15/2005 2:52:44 AM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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How hard was this to see coming? They signed long term oil contracts last year. Now how exactly is China going to pay for that oil? This is your answer. How much will China help them with nuclear technology. How about missiles?

China will also be selling Iran electronics and other consumer items. China-Iran is a good fit. They both hate America as an enemy.


46 posted on 08/15/2005 2:59:45 AM PDT by dennisw ( G_d - ---> Against Amelek for all generations)
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If China really does invade Taiwan, the US will respond. I don't know if the Chinese really know this--but they are testing the perimeters of the fences.
50 posted on 08/15/2005 3:19:24 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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Iran 'kept EU talking' while it finished nuclear plant
By Colin Freeman
(Filed: 14/08/2005)

An Iranian foreign policy official has boasted that the regime bought extra time over its stalled negotiations with Europe to complete a uranium conversion plant.

In comments that will infuriate EU diplomats, Hosein Musavian said that Teheran took advantage of the nine months of talks, which collapsed last week, to finish work at its Isfahan enrichment facility.


Technicians working at the Isfahan uranium conversion facility
"Thanks to the negotiations with Europe we gained another year in which we completed the [project] in Isfahan," he told an Iranian television interviewer.

Mr Musavian also claimed that work on nuclear centrifuges at a plant at Natanz, which was kept secret until Iran's exiled opposition revealed its existence in 2002, progressed during the negotiations.

"We needed six to 12 months to complete the work on the centrifuges," said Mr Musavian, chairman of the Iranian Supreme National Security Council's foreign policy committee. He made his remarks on August 4 - two days before Iran's foreign ministry rejected the European Union offer of incentives to abandon its uranium enrichment programme.

Critics of the regime will see his comments as confirmation that Iran never contemplated giving up its programme, despite top-level diplomacy involving Jack Straw, the Foreign Secretary, and his French and German counterparts.

The US was always pessimistic about the talks' chance of success. Yesterday President George W Bush refused to rule out using military force to press Iran into giving up its nuclear programme, which Washington suspects is a front for weapons-making. "All options are on the table," Mr Bush told Israeli television.

Mr Musavian, whose remarks were translated by the Middle East Research Institute based in Washington, was responding to criticism from Iranian hardliners that Teheran should never have entered into the EU negotiations.

He said that until then, Iran had dealt solely with the UN-backed International Atomic Energy Authority, which had given it a 50-day deadline to suspend uranium enrichment on pain of referral to the UN Security Council.

"The IAEA give us a 50-day extension to suspend the enrichment and all related activities," he said. "But thanks to the negotiations with Europe we gained another year, in which we completed the [project] in Isfahan."

The plant, about 250 miles south of Teheran, carries out an early stage of the cycle for developing nuclear fuel, turning yellowcake into UF4 and then into UF6, a gas essential to enrichment.

"Today, we are in a position of power," Mr Musavian said. "Isfahan is complete and has a stockpile of products." Mr Musavian also said that Iran had further benefited from sweeteners offered by the EU, including the invitation to enter talks on Iran joining the World Trade Organisation.

Iran is facing possible referral to the Security Council after scientists began breaking seals at the Isfahan plant, a precursor to resuming the research it agreed to suspend during the EU talks.

The Foreign Office declined to comment on Mr Musavian's rem-arks. Last week it said Iran made a "serious mistake" by opting to resume uranium conversion.

Mohamed ElBaradei, the head of the IAEA, is due to report on Iran's renewed nuclear activities on September 3, which could trigger a Security Council referral.


61 posted on 08/15/2005 6:16:09 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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The Chinese Army Delegation!.. ;^)


62 posted on 08/15/2005 6:25:17 AM PDT by FireTrack
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