Posted on 08/14/2005 11:13:28 PM PDT by F14 Pilot
Tehran, Aug 14 - A Chinese military delegation is expected to arrive in Tehran on Monday and meet with high-ranking Iranian military officials.
The delegation will also visit the Army's units and military training centers in order to boost the two countries' military relations.
The visit of the Chinese military delegation follows a meeting between the commander of the Iranian Army of the Islamic Republic and the Chinese military officials in 2002.
China has expressed interest in boosting military relations and cooperation with Iran.
They won't. I'm guessing that this is the first you've heard of a link between marxism and terrorists/ islam? Check out these links;
http://cuban-exile.com/menu1/!terror.html
http://rhodesian.server101.com/terrorist_incursions_from_zambia.htm
http://www.cato.org/dailys/11-16-01.html
For a long time marxists have been using islamic terrorism as cannon fodder against the west.
http://www.rushonline.com/visitors/panama.htm
The chinese have their fingers everywhere.
Welcome to the party pal.
http://www.outlookindia.com/bullseye.asp
Bull’s Eye by Rajinder Puri - Magazine Regulars| 15 Aug 2005
Max Boot from America's Council of Foreign Relations has drawn attention to a PLA publication, Unrestricted Warfare. The publication recommends use of all means to subvert and subjugate America. It supports Al Qaeda. Is the PLA the mastermind behind global terrorism? Consider these facts.
For decades Afghanistan and Myanmar supplied over 80 per cent of the world's poppy to fund terrorism. Both are immediate neighbours of China. Coincidence?
Pakistan is the centre of global terrorist training. But Musharraf admits he cannot control sections of the ISI and army which abet terrorism. What power backs these sections? CIA director Peter Goss said he had a good idea of where Osama bin Laden was hiding. But he could not act because friendly nations were involved. Is he inhibited by Pakistan or China?
Yossef Bodansky, director of the US Congress anti-terrorist task force, has recorded that terrorist strikes against India by Pakistan in the mid-1990s were funded by China. Coincidence?
Mossad director Meir Dagan said China had manufactured the explosives used in the recent London subway bomb blasts. He pinpointed the exact location of the factory—40 miles south of Beijing. Coincidence?
In December 2001, weeks before he was beheaded by Pakistani terrorists, The Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl wrote an article. He disclosed that in late August 2001, days before 9/11, a top Pakistan nuclear scientist, Bashiruddin Mahmoud, met Osama in Kabul. Mahmoud headed the Khusab plutonium factory built with Chinese help. According to French investigative journalist Bernard-Henri Levy, Dr A.Q. Khan, father of Pakistan's N-bomb, was a member of the Lashkar-e-Toiba, an outlet of Al Qaeda. The New York Times reported that in the early 1980s, Dr Khan visited Beijing where the Chinese gave him blueprints for an N-bomb. Coincidence?
On the fateful 9/11 day, a high-level PLA delegation met the ruling Taliban. It signed the contract that Osama had asked for. The PLA provided the Taliban with missile tracking, state-of-the-art communications, and air defense systems. Coincidence? On July 11, 2005, a highly respected intelligence website, G2 Bulletin, reported that two nuclear suitcase bombs have been smuggled across the Mexican border into America. Thousands, including terrorists, have infiltrated that border.
On July 14, 2005, PLA General Zhu Chenghui threatened the US with a nuclear strike that could "destroy hundreds of US cities." Osama is credited with an "American Hiroshima" plot to do the same. Coincidence?
Before 1962, India slept. It paid a heavy price. Today America sleeps. It could pay a fatal price.
LOL nice guns.
not.
"Not to worry too much, I am sure Rice and Bolton have figured out how to handle this situation should it arise."
Rice is too busy making sure Ariel Sharon kicks every last Jew out of Gaza. So that the Israelis can live side by side in peace, of course. gag.
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IRIS & Iran's Emerging Space Program
FAS ^ | April 6, 2005 | Charles P. Vick
Posted on 08/15/2005 2:29:24 AM PDT by bad company
There is however another possibility that may not have been considered for Shahab-3D. Iran is committed to the development of the space booster "IRIS". The IRIS launch vehicle apparently consists of the No-Dong/Shahab-3 first stage with a bulbous front section ultimately designed to carry an additional second stage solid motor as well as a communications satellite or scientific payload.
The IRIS launch vehicle is a space related derivation of the Shahab-3 ballistic missile. A launch vehicle of this configuration is ideal as a vertical probe sounding rocket for ballistic warhead re-entry vehicle development or a scientific payload. It would almost certainly not be capable of launching a satellite of appreciable mass or capability unless it were intended to be a second and third stage of a larger launch vehicle. If the Shahab-3D launch was an IRIS launch vehicle test then it was the first flight test of the Taep'o-dong-2/Shahab-5 second and third stages part of a space booster concept that Iran is said to be developing. The IRIS launch vehicle concept was first seen on public displays in model form in an Iranian aerospace show. This flight test failure may have caused a serious delay in the development program for the Taep'o-dong-2/Shahab-5 launch vehicle program. Only time will answer this open question.
Presumably a ballistic missile version of this could also be developed which may explain the Shahab-3D variant. The description of a Solid propellant upper stage on top of a know No-Dong/Shahab-3 design certainly fits the IRIS displayed design. It is not unusual for a nation to flight test the upper stages of a new booster as a testing procedure that has been used in both the East and West to expedite the development of a future larger space booster before flying the entire stack.
The Shahab-3D does however very strongly resemble the North Korean Taep'o-dong-2 second and third stages. Could it be that the Shahab-3D is in-fact a modified variant of the IRIS space related booster undergoing its first flight test? Is this in-turn Iran's contribution to North Korea's Taep'o-dong-2 space booster ballistic missile program and their own Shahab-5 space booster or ballistic missile? To a degree it could suggest that Iran is working on the second and third stages of the Taep'o-dong-2 launch vehicle with North Korea while they both have apparently made contributions to the larger new Taep'o-dong-2 first stage. Recently North Korea static test fired that new first stage on the rebuilt Taep'o-dong-1 now Taep'o-dong-2 launch pad, gantry umbilical tower facility between June 26 and July 2, 2001.
It is known that the Shahab-3D failed shortly after launch. This was well before the first stage would have completed its 110 seconds burn when the aerodynamic shroud would have been jettisoned and the solid motor second stage would have ignited regardless of its true design configuration and the actual payload flown. Presently that is unclear based on the available public information released to date. In general IRIS is believed to be waiting for Shahab-5 to fulfill its real goal.
Iran's Emerging Space Programs The appearance of Iran's space program is tied to foreign cooperation and the parallel but delayed development of the Shahab-4 now apparently shelved, and the now under development Shahab-5 and Shahab-6 launch vehicle programs. The three primary countries that Iran is cooperating with are Russia, China and North Korea. Iran is trying to develop an indigenous spacecraft, satellite development industry through this cooperation and purchased "know how" with the technology transfer. China is still planning to launch Iran's initial satellite payload offerings attached to China's new whether satellites. In the future Iran intends to launch its own satellites on the IRIS and or the Shahab-5 and 6 boosters but today Iran remains dependent on foreign launch providers to place its payload into Earth orbit. When Iran's space program will finally take flight remains to be seen, but it could begin in 2001 or 2002 but may be delayed to 2004 or 2005.
As early as June 27, 1998 an agreement in Iran was signed to design, construct and launch a communications research, Earth observation satellite "Mesbah", and a small technological satellite. This agreement was with the Minister of Higher Education, Mostafa Moin and the Minister of Post, Telegraph, and Telephone, Minister Reza Arefvazdi. The Mesbah satellite was to be launched within the next three years (2001) of signing with apparently China and Russia's Glavkosmos organization as a piggy-back payload on Russian and Chinese boosters.
The project was to be run by The Scientific and Industrial Research organization of Iran and its Center for Telecommunications Research. This is one of several communication satellite projects being developed by Iran. Besides the communication satellites two mini-satellites are being developed. The (Small multi-mission Satellite) SMMS is a joint venture payload between China, Iran, South Korea, Mongolia, Pakistan, Thailand and Bangladesh under the Asian-Pacific organization. This SMMS imaging spacecraft payload project is primarily managed by China and Iran. (9) It was to be launched on a Long March-4 in 2000 and 2001 but has subsequently been delayed to 2004 or 2005 as a part of the China's weather satellite program. The launch will place the SMMS spacecraft into a 650-kilometer Sun-synchronous polar orbit. The 470 kilograms satellite has increased it mass from its original 380 kilograms and is based on the CAST-968B platform developed by China's space industry of the PRC Academy of Space Technology. (9) It will carry a 100kg. multi-spectral CCD imaging camera. The camera is capable of wide field 20 meters resolution imaging. (1) (9)
Space News added in 1999 that, Mostafa Safari Iran's deputy minister of Post and Telegraph telephones-Domestic satellite communications program approved early in 1999 for a 2002 launch called the Zahreh. Solicited bids for the satellites development contract were expected to come from France, India, China, and Russia for the KU frequency band Zahreh system. The program contract called for considerable technology transfer to Iran as a requirement for winning the contract with provisions to train Iran's satellite engineers and technicians. The satellites are to be placed 34 degrees East and 47 degrees East above the equator in the appropriate geo-stationary satellite orbit slot. (2)
On July 16, 1999, The Washington Times disclosed some new information on the "Kosar" satellite launch vehicle of Iran and its relationship to North Korea's Taep'o-dong-2. Basically the article stated that Iran and North Korea are working together contributing to each other's launch vehicle development programs. It further revealed that the Iranians come in a specially equipped Boeing-707 apparently filled with Chinese supplied telemetry monitoring equipment for satellite and ballistic missile test launches as previously reported by the Washington Times. Iran's Kosar launch vehicle was also suggested to be the Iranian variant of North Korea's Taep'o-dong-2 booster. The new missile, named Kosar, was said to be undergoing design development with assistance from Russian aerospace technicians and state-run entities and that it was powered with a version of Russia's RD-216 liquid fuel booster engine. It was based on new information suggesting there had been another rocket engine technology transfer from a Russian entity Energomash. (3) No further clarifying information on this has since surfaced. It could potentially be related to a water pump project that was associated with Energomash that was dropped as a technology transfer issue later with no sanctions being issued by the United States.
The RD-216 is an Energomash engine originally used on the Skean/SS-5/R-14, IRBM, Saddler/SS-7/R-16, ICBM and Sasin/R-26 ICBM missiles developed during the cold war. Israeli Intelligence calls this booster the Shahab-5 and Shahab-6. It was further noted according to Kenneth R. Timmerman, President of Middle East Data Project, Inc. on July 16, 1999, in The Washington Times, that new booster testing activities was observed at the Iranian Missile test center "near Shahroud East of Tehran in late April". "We've seen them stack stages, then taking them down over the past six weeks," (April May and early June 1999) one analyst said. "This strongly suggests they will be launching a multi-stage missile." (3)
Space News noted on Aug. 18, 1999 that Iran planned to launch three satellites, (2002-2003) the two Comsat's Zahreh and (1) a minor multipurpose bird S. M. M. S. and one Mesbah. (4)
On January 25, 2000 the voice of Iran IRIFPN release the following information about the requested Chinese assistance on Iran's satellite program ---- "work towards exchanging idea's in area's such as manufacturing of satellites.
How hard was this to see coming? They signed long term oil contracts last year. Now how exactly is China going to pay for that oil? This is your answer. How much will China help them with nuclear technology. How about missiles?
China will also be selling Iran electronics and other consumer items. China-Iran is a good fit. They both hate America as an enemy.
China has already sold them Cruise Missiles, Hou Dong Fast Attack Boats, Fighter jets and China has a huge Military advisory team in Iran
My suspicion is Iran is giving ChiComs a 10$ discount per barrel of oil.
"My stomach is turning flips right now...I honestly think this is the first time in my life I've been scared. If we don't handle this correctly now, how many people will have to die before the appeasers catch on?"
Is China still the Most Favored Nation for the United States ?
ON THE NET...
http://www.memritv.org
http://www.memri.org
http://www.memri.org/iran.html
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Special Dispatch Series - No. 957
August 12, 2005 No.957
"Chief Iranian Nuclear Affairs Negotiator Hosein Musavian: The Negotiations with Europe Bought Us Time to Complete the Esfahan UCF Project and the Work on the Centrifuges in Natanz"
TRANSCRIPT SNIPPET: "The following are excerpts from an interview with Iran's chief nuclear affairs negotiator, and Supreme National Security Council member Hosein Musavian, which aired on Iranian Channel 2 on August 4, 2005. To view this clip visit http://memritv.org/search.asp?ACT=S9&P1=805 . To view several MEMRI TV clips on Iran's Defense Program, visit http://memritv.org/Search.asp?ACT=S5&P1=135 ."
China has publicly stated that not even the US is willing to trade Los Angeles for Taiwan. (insinuating nuclear retaliation for interference with Taiwan) Think about it like this. Assume that Texas exercised its right to secede from the United States (i am not an advocate of this...just an example). Then assume that the United States was not happy about that for obvious reasons. Then assume that Texas established diplomatic ties with China in order to make their decision permanent. Then assume that China started arming Texas with all sorts of weapons as Texas and USA were going through talks. Point is, our presence in the middle east is already an encroachment on both Russia and China's spheres of influence as super powers. Then we have we have McCain shooting his mouth off about how we aren't leaving the middle east until he can roller skate through bagdad in a mini skirt. Couple that with our arming of Taiwan and you can see how they aren't really happy with that. We didn't like it when Russia started building military facilities in Cuba right? I don't advocate taking a risk on a foreign nation with Los Angeles hanging in the balance. Although....lol
Not to mention the missile guidance systems that Clinton sold to them for their peaceful satellites. I think in retrospect, Clinton will be remembered as the man who left the White House unattended for 8 years while selling our national security down the drain. He cut military spending, he closed all the bases in California, he let a Chinese company take over the Panama Canal, he sold classified technology to our biggest adversary in the interest of pushing his most favored nation bs. He allowed a Chinese destroyer known to be equipped with nuclear weapons and high tech listening devices to sit in the San Francisco harbor for over six weeks as a show of good will. Easily the largest breach of national security since the Bay of Pigs fiasco by his hero. Anything else they need they can get from the Russians.
Here's a novel idea: let's pump up china's economy!
Oh wait we're already doing that!!!
China is propping up our dollar in return through the world bank.
probably just posturing but you never know
Difference is the Commies will go in and slaughter every one of them and not even flinch.
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