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Well, I walked out of church this morning over the Cindy Sheehan situation (VANITY)
Muself | 8/14/05 | Myself

Posted on 08/14/2005 9:17:15 AM PDT by Chi-townChief

I'll apologize in advance for this vanity post but I need to get this off my chest:

At our 10:30 a.m. mass this morning, our pastor was the celebrant. Today's Gospel was the story of Christ's meeting with the Canaanite woman and the eventual healing of her daughter. Our pastor then followed with his homily where he first related the plight of the Canaanite woman with a woman he knew who called him requesting prayers for an illness in her family which we could relate to since my wife and I are both contending with (minor, we hope) health issues.

The nest thing we know, the pastor is relating this to the "lady camped out in Texas asking for healing AND ACCOUNTABILITY" (the emphasis is my own). We sat there and listened through the sermon as he returned to the Sheehan story a few more times asking us to imagine an Iraqi woman who lost children in the same position.

Thankfully, it was pretty short and we stood for the Creed but then, immediately before the intercessions, the pastor returned to the topic.

This was too much for us so we turned and left, commenting to those around that we don't come to church to hear politics. I handed the usher my offering as we exited.

This is the first time something like this has happened in this church we have attended for the past twenty years or so and I feel pretty horrible about the whole thing.


TOPICS: US: Illinois; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: chicago; cindysheehan; religiousleft
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To: PMCarey

I disagree with staying & listening to a homily that he/she knew was basically a lie. The church is NOT the place to spout political nonsense, but to hear God's Word preached & to take the Eucharist. How could one worship where lies were be told?


261 posted on 08/14/2005 2:59:46 PM PDT by madison10
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To: madison10
How could one worship where lies were be told?

With charity and forebearance? :-)

262 posted on 08/14/2005 3:05:02 PM PDT by PMCarey
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To: Chi-townChief

Partisan politics has no place in Church.
If the good Pastor had taken the time to do little research, he would have known that President Bush already met with this woman. He would have known that she is hooked up with hate America, far Left groups and has her own political agenda and is using the death of her son as a facade for her true agenda.
Everyone feels sympathy for a mother who has lost her son. She certainly has a right to her opinion, but this is getting out of hand.


263 posted on 08/14/2005 3:07:37 PM PDT by Cincinna (BEWARE HILLARY and her HINO)
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To: Chi-townChief
Personally, I would have walked out the first time he mentioned her name/situation. Since you walked out after he was through with his sermon, people probably figured you were leaving because church was over. I would not have dropped the offering in the plate, and I'd be finding a new church this afternoon. That's just me, though. I'm a no-nonsense kinda person when it comes to Christianity. Many Churches of today are too liberal for me. I've walked out on a couple for saying things from the pulpit that I felt were out of place.
264 posted on 08/14/2005 3:08:05 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (veni vidi Visa - I came, I saw, I shopped!)
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To: Chi-townChief

Don't feel bad...I walked out at a lesbian baptism.
Two lesbians baptising their baby. No child should be denied baptism, but the public spectacle of upholding procreation by artificial means for political purposes is a slippery slope.


265 posted on 08/14/2005 3:10:33 PM PDT by Cincinna (BEWARE HILLARY and her HINO)
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To: Northern Yankee; Victoria Delsoul

Sounds like our friend IrishGOP needs to know about this one. Im new on this board and dont know how to ping her to this thread. Do you?


266 posted on 08/14/2005 3:10:55 PM PDT by del4hope (For our children - our greatest natural resource)
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To: del4hope; IrishGOP

You just ping her/him the same way you pinged us. LOL.


267 posted on 08/14/2005 3:15:20 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Victoria Delsoul

Thanks, Im still in the learning curve.


268 posted on 08/14/2005 3:16:54 PM PDT by del4hope (For our children - our greatest natural resource)
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To: del4hope

No problem. Welcome to FR.


269 posted on 08/14/2005 3:17:26 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Alia; PMCarey

Points well taken - believe me, I'm not anywhere near the best Christian in the world; more like the "bad Catholic" in Walker Percy's 'Love in the Ruins." But the introduction of Ms. Sheehan's brand of anger and hatred at any point in the Mass and, particularly, at the intercessions is a little much for me.


270 posted on 08/14/2005 3:17:29 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Chi-townChief
If he were my priest, during confession, I would mention I had unkind thoughts about a certain priest... one that interjects politics during mass. He'd get the point - QUICK.

Trajan88

271 posted on 08/14/2005 3:18:32 PM PDT by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: Chi-townChief
Thankfully, it was pretty short and we stood for the Creed...

I would have left sooner...and loudly.

272 posted on 08/14/2005 3:19:16 PM PDT by Recovering Hermit
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To: madison10
Didn't read your question properly before - today's Gospel was Matthew 15:21-28 in many churches (many others celebrated The Assumption) which is the story of Jesus and the Canaanite woman. So in that sense, our priests are reading from the same book of the Gospels. On the political side, I'm not sure.
273 posted on 08/14/2005 3:22:54 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Trajan88

I hate to say this but as I've talked to a few people about this today, they know very little about the Sheehan story and are thus in the dark about why I walked out.


274 posted on 08/14/2005 3:25:41 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Chi-townChief

I would have walked out during the homily. And I would have made glaring eye contact with the priest as I turned to leave.

That comparison is preposterous.


275 posted on 08/14/2005 3:38:20 PM PDT by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: Chi-townChief

I pass St. Gerald's "faith community" on the way to St. Thomas More Catholic Church {81st and California} for the noon Traditional Latin Mass. I invite you to do the same.


276 posted on 08/14/2005 3:54:43 PM PDT by catsclaws
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To: don-o

When was the last time you had any evidence I wasn't playing nice?


277 posted on 08/14/2005 4:07:25 PM PDT by Quix
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To: Quix

Sorry, I do not have your file on hand. Just an impression that you are often found bashing Catholics. If I am in error, please fogive me.


278 posted on 08/14/2005 4:10:46 PM PDT by don-o (Don't be a Freeploader. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor!)
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To: don-o

I certainly forgive you.

And, I believe you are in error.

I have virtually never intended to bash anyone.

I have very rarely noted Roman belief/tradition distinctives which I've found very less than Biblical or perhaps less than understandable from my perspective.

But I've persistently held Roman bros and sis in actually rather high esteem hereon.

There are others I couldn't say that about, however. I think most of them have been banned.


279 posted on 08/14/2005 4:17:10 PM PDT by Quix
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To: Chi-townChief
Hi. There are over 200 posts and I don't have time to read all of them so I apologize if my post covers something already discussed. But I note that you are from Chicago and also apparently Catholic. If your uncomfortable with your parish I would suggest possibly a different one. The link below is to a Catholic parish that is a tad unusual, starting with the fact that its pretty conservative. Feel free to have a look at the website. It might be something that would appeal to a well grounded and conservative Catholic.

http://www.cantius.org/HomePage.htm
280 posted on 08/14/2005 4:22:16 PM PDT by jec1ny (Adjutorium nostrum in nomine Domine Qui fecit caelum et terram.)
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