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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 14
Various News Outlets | 8/12/05

Posted on 08/12/2005 10:38:31 AM PDT by TexKat



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Alabama; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: aruba; arubancorruption; beth; bethandjug; boringstory; boycottaruba; carloscharlies; courageousmom; daviejoneslocker; deepak; deepkrap; disappear; drugcartel; enoughwiththis; everyoneschild; fbi; generalissimofranco; ghb; greta; investigation; joran; jug; kalpoes; kalpooeys; kidnapped; mansur; natalee; nataleeholloway
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To: Malichi

Hey Malachi,
I think when this chrysalis is finally opened, we will see, "Pandora's Box."(Arunaban Style)

Standup Hookup Shuffle to the Door,
NSNR-ABC


421 posted on 08/13/2005 2:11:32 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: Rusty Roberts

This will come as a surprise to many of you as it did to me I'm sure - Jossy has written several books including the official dictionary of Papiamento to English! Not joking, I came across something with Jossy's name which led to the official Aruban library contents and there they were, four or five of them. Besides being an editor of the largest newspaper, he's a scholar as well. LOL


422 posted on 08/13/2005 2:31:38 PM PDT by penowa
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To: cajungirl

Your right, he's a reporter. But I doubt the government would let him speak unless he is toestepping w/them.

And yes, it was a response to a question that was asked of him.


423 posted on 08/13/2005 2:32:37 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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Ha, Beth has filed complaint against kaltard:) Go BETH!


424 posted on 08/13/2005 2:43:40 PM PDT by meanie monster
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To: All

Fox is reporting that Beth has filed a complaint against Deepak for making false accusations against her.


425 posted on 08/13/2005 2:43:41 PM PDT by Sunshine55 ( http://profile.tickle.com/.VFDh6C-z_JET9p_)
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To: Sunshine55

good info, Sunshine.

The State Department has been reluctant to act against Saudi abductions of US children because of Ambassador Prince Bandar's powerful Washington retainers.

Ambassador Prince Bandar's Washington retainers have successfully suppressed any action by Washington. We are also reminded of the old Washington maxim: "The one who controls the investigation wins."




The State Dept has been reluctant...... (to do their job).


Evil and deceifulness will exist as long as the rich and powerful can use intimidation or buy silence from their sheep.


426 posted on 08/13/2005 2:51:58 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: monkeywrench

Sorry I couldn't answer your question better. Thankfully, there are always knowledgable FReepers around that do a great job! :o)


427 posted on 08/13/2005 2:54:00 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: Sunshine55

Cool! Turn up the flame, Beth. Make them all sweat!


428 posted on 08/13/2005 2:54:58 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Dolphy

Their whole story stinks more and more, doesn't it, Dolphy?


429 posted on 08/13/2005 2:55:55 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: Malichi
Talking about anabolic steroids. Bodybuilding. Look at my pecs!!! What you're talking about are called corticosteroids.<<<<<<<<<<

Oh, well, nevermind....(best Emily Latella voice).

430 posted on 08/13/2005 2:58:52 PM PDT by Mjaye
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To: No Surrender No Retreat
And I hope he will, NSNR. Maybe he already has, and it is info that has not been released to the pucblic. All these unknowns are so frustrating, aren't they?!

By the way, did you see justche's post at 352? She said:

"He had said on an interview it's been his pleasure to serve the United States of America. I think that's why people assumed CIA or DEA. I *think* he said he'd lived here as well, but I can't remember for sure on that point."

Hopefully, that part about, "You are not In America" just got edited out for time on Greta's show. I think they had a much longer conversation.

But you are spot on, NSNR. CC knows alot more than he's let on.

431 posted on 08/13/2005 3:02:53 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

Saudi Arubia, as detailed above seems entirely possible and plausible......the harem is NOT a thing of the past.

IIRC, Bandar is the one whom Rudy invited to stick his $10 Million where the Saudi sun doesn't shine a few days after 9-11 before the still-smoking skeleton of the WTC.


432 posted on 08/13/2005 3:07:18 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

The prince's bio:

http://www.saudiembassy.net/Country/Government/BandarBio.asp

About his resignation:

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/7/20/130852.shtml


433 posted on 08/13/2005 3:10:56 PM PDT by Abigail Adams
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To: justche; cajungirl
It's not cold (I don't think). By putting any type of disorder or illness onto one's actions, it automatically gives an excuse of "well in the end he just couldn't help himself."

That's exactly what I meant.

Whatever happened to the concept of sin as a very bad thing, that rots the soul if not foresaken and makes one very very sick if indulged?

We just saw a gorgeous brand spanking new truck tooling down the highway with a beautifully lettered decal in the center of the back window which read, "SINNER."

His parents must be so proud.

I read somewhere that "the healthy sinner is the hardened sinner."

A friend said recently, "I don't think Joran is hardened yet."

Maybe his inner knower is getting stronger and healthier the longer he's in jail, and he'll feel compelled to sing his heart out. I'd love to see that.

*climbing down off my high horse now*

434 posted on 08/13/2005 3:22:55 PM PDT by b9
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To: Malichi; Andy'smom; Deguello; NCjim; sissyjane; antceecee; ruoflaw; Mare; cyborg; kcvl; maggief; ...
Tech Notes: Aruba disappearance shakes Tech lineman

By MIKE KNOBLER The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Published on: 08/13/05

Natalee Holloway's disappearance has tugged at the hearts of newspaper readers and TV viewers across the United States, but it really hit home to Georgia Tech guard Nate McManus.

McManus attended Mountain Brook High School in Birmingham with Holloway, the honors student who vanished during her senior class trip to the Caribbean island nation of Aruba. McManus was Class of 2004, Holloway Class of 2005. They have friends in common, and she performed on the dance team at football games in which he played.

"I did the exact senior trip she has not returned from," McManus said. "I was in her exact position 365 days earlier."

He was home when Holloway didn't return with her classmates on May 31. Police found her passport and packed bags in her hotel room, but they have been unable to find her.

"That's been really hard on our community," McManus said.

435 posted on 08/13/2005 3:23:08 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Abigail Adams

it was Bandars brother or cousin or whatever.....

After his fellow countrymen slaughtered 3,000 innocent Americans on 9-11, a gloating
Saudi Prince Al-Waleed tossed a $10-million check at Mayor Rudolph ...
www.laptoplobbyist.com/terrorism.html


436 posted on 08/13/2005 3:24:28 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: All

AP Image Natalee's mother, Beth Holloway Twitty

Natalee Holloway's Mother Speaks To NBC13

Private Investigator Finds Belt Near Lighthouse

UPDATED: 1:09 pm CDT August 13, 2005

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. -- Natalee Holloway's mother spoke to NBC13 Friday, as a new search started on the island of Aruba.

A group from the United States is using dogs that work best at night.

The group is searching the area near the lighthouse where Natalee may have been the night she disappeared.

Natalee's mother, Beth Holloway Twitty, spoke to NBC13 by phone Friday night. She said her daily effort is to keep Natalee's story alive. She said support from the U.S. is what gives her strength.

"The only thing that keeps me sane are the people from the states. They're incredible from all over," said Twitty.

As for the investigation, a private investigator turned up a belt near the lighthouse. It may look like the one Joran van der Sloot was wearing in a picture near the lighthouse.

Twitty said she appreciates every clue but knows specifically what she wants.

"Some information from Joran and Deepak and Satish ... not only that, I'd like to see them questioned again, but re-arrested and interrogated, but with a different approach," Twitty said.

Twitty was thrilled to learn yellow ribbons were being hung at the University of Alabama campus for Natalee.

Natalee was set to start classes on a full scholarship this month.

"I had heard that they had put yellow ribbons on the sorority dorms. I didn't know they'd put them elsewhere. That is incredible," Twitty said.

Twitty is waiting for Sept. 4, when suspect Joran van der Sloot will be in court.

A judge will decide then if there is enough evidence to keep him in jail.

Natalee has been missing since May 30

437 posted on 08/13/2005 3:29:08 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: doodlelady
All I can think of DL is something I used to repeat to myself when I ran,

"My Lord and Savior Jesus Christ have mercy on me a sinner."

438 posted on 08/13/2005 3:45:19 PM PDT by Malichi (!)
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To: justche

Good point, justche...hadn't even "clicked" for me until your post! Following up on Lorenzo's father may lead nowhere, but couldn't hurt. Why would anyone commit suicide on such a "happy island?"


439 posted on 08/13/2005 3:45:43 PM PDT by hummingbird ("The world needs more Steel Magnolias like Beth Holloway.")
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To: Sunshine55

Hello all.. My father-in-law died recently, so I have been busy, and have missed reading and following all of the news. A friend called me a minute ago and asked me what the breaking news was re: Natalee. I cannot seem to find anything on here.. but haven't had time to look really hard, busy writing thank you notes.
As an aside.....
The kidnapping theory makes sense in the fact that Nat's friends say that Joran wasn't acting particularly interested in Natalee...


440 posted on 08/13/2005 3:45:43 PM PDT by Former
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