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Coffin from Civil War uncovers mystery
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Posted on 08/06/2005 8:19:37 AM PDT by rastus macgill

WASHINGTON - The rusty iron coffin stubbornly resisted hammer and chisel as researchers in a warm Smithsonian laboratory sought a glimpse of an American who lived more than a century and a half ago. An electric drill, its orange cord snaking around the pre-Civil War artifact, finally freed the lid. "This is a person and we want to tell this person's story. She is our primary obligation," anthropologist Doug Owsley said as the lid was lifted to reveal a young body wrapped in a brown shroud. Story continues below ↓ advertisement The scientists hope to identify the remains so they can have a properly marked grave. In the process, they have a chance to learn about mortuary practices of the period, what disease and trauma people may have suffered, their diet, past environments, clothing and perhaps even social customs. Based on the small size, they had expected the coffin to contain a female body. On examination, it turned out to be a boy, about age 13. The coffin was found in April by utility workers digging in Washington. Owsley, head of physical anthropology at the National Museum of Natural History, said the body was well preserved. The young man wore a shirt and vest, pants and drawers, all hand-sewn, as well as a pair of socks. Only the socks appeared machine-made, Owsley said Thursday. "I think ultimately we'll be able to determine who he was and what the cause of death was," he said. Owsley said the young man's right lung had adhesions indicating an infection, possibly pneumonia, and calcifications of the lymph nodes from infections. The cast iron coffin was shaped a bit like an Egyptian mummy and is of a type called Fisk style patented in 1848...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: anthropology; godsgravesglyphs; milhist; postmortem; smithsonian
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I disinterred one of these from 1857 once.The preservation was amazing he looked less than a week dead in full evening dress with a bouquet of flowers on his chest.We welded it shut on the spot and turned it over to a funeral home for reinterrment in another cemetery. Would have been interesting to perform this degree of examination.
1 posted on 08/06/2005 8:19:40 AM PDT by rastus macgill
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Records indicate the boy voted for Kerry in Chicago in 2004.


2 posted on 08/06/2005 8:28:23 AM PDT by pabianice
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they have a chance to learn about mortuary practices of the period, what disease and trauma people may have suffered, their diet, past environments, clothing and perhaps even social customs.

Yep, no written record from that time, none what so ever. Let the dead rest in peace and not be someones ticket to a fed grant.

3 posted on 08/06/2005 8:34:41 AM PDT by 11Bush (No outstanding felonies, but my life has been one long misdemeanor.)
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Anthropologist Kari Bruwelheide, right, and Doug Owsley, head of physical anthropology at the National Museum of Natural History, center, and others, examine the remains of an iron coffin at the museum in Washington.

Very cramped accomodations

4 posted on 08/06/2005 8:35:20 AM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: rastus macgill
From the source article: The Washington remains are in much better condition, with skin and soft tissues intact. Researchers were using long cotton swabs to get samples they could test for toxins and bacteria.

I doubt bacteria could live so long, but is it possible for viri to survive under such condtions, and infect those working on the remains? From the source, there is a photograph of the scientists working on the remains, and while wearing aprons and latex gloves, they have no other protective apparel.

5 posted on 08/06/2005 8:39:43 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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Okay no more highways no buliding no land development let them rest in peace.Or would you suggest just crushing them with bull dozers and backhoes and using them as fill dirt?


6 posted on 08/06/2005 8:39:52 AM PDT by rastus macgill
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"Yep, no written record from that time, none what so ever. Let the dead rest in peace and not be someones ticket to a fed grant."



Second dat! We aren't talking Egyptian mummies here.
7 posted on 08/06/2005 8:47:40 AM PDT by need_a_screen_name
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To: rastus macgill

There is a difference between the respectful moving of remains and the 'let's look and see what's in here'.


8 posted on 08/06/2005 8:51:41 AM PDT by 11Bush (No outstanding felonies, but my life has been one long misdemeanor.)
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"Okay no more highways no buliding no land development let them rest in peace.Or would you suggest just crushing them with bull dozers and backhoes and using them as fill dirt?"



Jumping a little to the extreme, eh? What would be wrong with simply reinterring the body like you did in your situation? I'm sure this the body wasn't buried in the hope that some future generation would one day dig it up and start carving into it. Respect for the dead, and all of that.
9 posted on 08/06/2005 8:52:28 AM PDT by need_a_screen_name
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"Let the dead rest in peace and not be someones ticket to a fed grant."

Preach it, my friend.


10 posted on 08/06/2005 9:01:38 AM PDT by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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Me three! This is exactly what I was thinking while reading the article. Instead of wasting their time and money poking and prodding at this poor deceased child, maybe they should visit their local library.


11 posted on 08/06/2005 9:03:00 AM PDT by derllak
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I doubt bacteria could live so long

Bacterial spores have survived up to 250 million years, in the right conditions. ref: here

12 posted on 08/06/2005 9:03:27 AM PDT by Mudcat
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"Coffin from Civil War uncovers mystery"

" . . . its orange cord snaking around the pre-Civil War artifact, . ."


Is the headline wrong?


13 posted on 08/06/2005 9:11:51 AM PDT by leadpenny
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I disinterred one of these from 1857 once

I hope you were an archeaologist or some such thing rather than just diggin' around for fun . . . .??

14 posted on 08/06/2005 9:20:19 AM PDT by WIladyconservative (Set up a monthly donation to FR - why? because it's The Right Thing to Do!)
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I was thinking the same thing. I am sure there was a reason for the disinternment...or there was a lot of beer involved. Yuck.

They dont mention the smell. They never mention the smell.


15 posted on 08/06/2005 9:29:08 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (I am not from Vermont. I lived there for four years and that was enough.)
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To: 11Bush

"Yep, no written record from that time, none what so ever."

That's what I was thinking. My goodness, this was only 150 years ago, I think a good deal is known about life, death, and disease at that time. I can understand wanting to id the guy, but I'm not sure how they'll manage that.

Maybe they should just re-bury the fellow, as the unknown American of circa 1850.


16 posted on 08/06/2005 9:46:16 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: Nightshift

ping


17 posted on 08/06/2005 9:49:17 AM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< OurFlorida.true.ws Impeach Judge Greer)
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To: TR Jeffersonian

Civil War era ping


18 posted on 08/06/2005 9:54:25 AM PDT by kalee
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To: 11Bush
You're right. Let them "Rest in Peace".

The records and statistics from that period are endless. People still think we were living in the stone age at the time.

I've been restoring a cemetery from the 1820's. The newspaper death notices indicate the cause of death and in many cases were very descriptive.

19 posted on 08/06/2005 9:54:30 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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Bacterial spores have survived up to 250 million years, in the right conditions

True. If this child died from TB there could be spores.

20 posted on 08/06/2005 9:55:48 AM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghanistan Honor Roll students.)
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