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Gunman(Jewish Settler) kills 3 on Israel bus
CNN ^

Posted on 08/04/2005 9:43:31 AM PDT by Alex Marko

JERUSALEM (AP) -- A passenger on an Israeli bus opened fire on Thursday, killing three people, an Israeli police spokesman told Channel 2 TV, in an apparent argument among passengers. Five other people were wounded. The TV report said the gunman, in an Israeli army uniform, was captured by police. The gunfire erupted as the bus was on a road in Israel's north near the town of Shfaram. The spokesman told Channel 2 that the gunman was a soldier, three people were killed and several others wounded, and the gunman was captured. Channel 2 said the incident was not a terror attack.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: druze; gaza; israel; kach; middleeast; settlers
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To: veronica; SJackson
(1) This individual was clearly mentally disturbed and does not represent the mindset or moral quality of religious Jews living in Yesha. He was a lone lunatic, simple as that.

(2) Timothy McVeigh was not a Christian - he had renounced the religion he was raised in. His last words were a recitation of a famous agnostic poem - Invictus by William Henley.

101 posted on 08/04/2005 11:39:26 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander in Chief)
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To: FFIGHTER; M. Espinola

This settler was part of a ultra-right religious sect of judaism. Some believe that Israel shouldnt even legally exist. This guy is comparable to McVeigh. Why do you defend him?


102 posted on 08/04/2005 11:40:50 AM PDT by Alex Marko
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To: FormerACLUmember

Sorry, I must have missed that praise. Would you mind posting the link, please?

Thanks in advance.


103 posted on 08/04/2005 11:41:22 AM PDT by Piranha
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To: wideawake

Yes and Yes.


105 posted on 08/04/2005 11:43:49 AM PDT by SJackson (America...thru dissent and protest lost the ability to mobilize a will to win, Col Bui Tin, PAVN)
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To: FormerACLUmember

HA, that is so lame.

The first couple pages are full of links to articles such as "Arafat Tells Security Staff: Kill as Many Jewish Settlers as Possible" and "Gunmen Burst Into Home, Kill 5 Israeli Settlers."

Oh, and page one of the search includes "Settlers Kill 500 Indians" and "Abebooks Search Results - Yaka - Here slavery exists, and white settlers kill Africans for land."

LOL


106 posted on 08/04/2005 11:44:30 AM PDT by agrace (Where were you when I founded the earth? Tell me if you know so much. Job 38:4)
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To: Alex Marko
This settler was part of a ultra-right religious sect of judaism.

According to the article he was a member of KaCh or Kahane Chai, which is not a religious sect but a political organization dedicated to the principles of Meir Kahane.

The group contains religious and non-religious members.

Some believe that Israel shouldnt even legally exist.

Only one group of religious Jews believes that Israel should not exist - the Neturei Karta.

They actively support the PLO.

107 posted on 08/04/2005 11:49:46 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander in Chief)
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To: monday

In her mind, an appropriate husband is one who intends to spend his adult years in full-time Jewish religious study.


108 posted on 08/04/2005 11:50:58 AM PDT by Piranha
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To: Righty_McRight

In this country there are many students on food stamps.


109 posted on 08/04/2005 11:51:46 AM PDT by Piranha
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To: Alex Marko

Do you have any basis to believe that this man believed that Israel shouldn't legally exist, or are you just using the opportunity to smear an entire sector of Israel's population?

Oh, and exactly to what "ultra-right religious sect of Judaism" did this man belong?


110 posted on 08/04/2005 11:53:31 AM PDT by Piranha
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To: Piranha

"Eden Tzuberi, 19, was an activist in the outlawed extreme-right Kach movement. Tzuberi went AWOL a month ago to protest the disengagement plan."

Kach
Kahane Chai

Description

Stated goal is to restore the biblical state of Israel. Kach (founded by radical Israeli-American rabbi Meir Kahane) and its offshoot Kahane Chai, which means "Kahane Lives," (founded by Meir Kahane’s son Binyamin following his father’s assassination in the United States) were declared to be terrorist organizations in March 1994 by the Israeli Cabinet under the 1948 Terrorism Law. This followed the groups’ statements in support of Dr. Baruch Goldstein’s attack in February 1994 on the al-Ibrahimi Mosque— Goldstein was affiliated with Kach—and their verbal attacks on the Israeli Government. Palestinian gunmen killed Binyamin Kahane and his wife in a drive-by shooting in December 2000 in the West Bank.


111 posted on 08/04/2005 11:56:21 AM PDT by Alex Marko
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To: Piranha
In this country there are many students on food stamps.

Yeah, but they get kicked out of school if they can't pay their tuition.
112 posted on 08/04/2005 11:58:53 AM PDT by Righty_McRight
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To: Alex Marko

They are banned/outlawed in Israel. Tzuberi was apparently a formerly secular Israeli with severe mental problems who was kicked out of the army (or went AWOL), linked up with the banned theocratic Kach movement somehow and then went nuts and shot random people in a bus.


113 posted on 08/04/2005 12:01:31 PM PDT by Alexander Rubin
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To: MoochPooch
Typically, if the student isn't learning, they'll be asked to leave.

The Yeshivot and Kollelim struggle for funds and if a student is there just filling a seat, they won't allow him to stay. Either you learn or you're out. Token gestures aren't accepted or tolerated. Usually, there are waiting lists, especially for Kollel bachurim, so they won't tolerate a slacker.

My nephew is at Yeshivat Moshe..it's a smaller Yeshiva with limited capacity and a waiting list a mile long. The level of commitment required, is incredible.

114 posted on 08/04/2005 12:07:27 PM PDT by sofaman
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To: Alex Marko
"This settler was part of a ultra-right religious sect of judaism. Some believe that Israel shouldnt even legally exist. This guy is comparable to McVeigh. Why do you defend him?"

What did I state indicating defense for these killings? My comments were directed at the overall situation threatening Israel's national security coming from frenzied gangs of jihadic killers.

(Arutz Sheva) Jew Kills 4 Arabs; Media Links Murder with Protests

Photo, Jerusalem Post

116 posted on 08/04/2005 12:09:19 PM PDT by M. Espinola ( Freedom is never free)
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To: monday

Married men study in Kollel...unmarried men study in a Yeshiva...several Yeshivot have their own Kollel. However, typically, married students, study together. They don't usually study with unmarried students.


117 posted on 08/04/2005 12:10:49 PM PDT by sofaman
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To: Alex Marko
This settler was part of a ultra-right religious sect of judaism. Some believe that Israel shouldnt even legally exist.

He was a member of Neturei Karta? I think you are confused.

118 posted on 08/04/2005 12:12:24 PM PDT by Alouette ("Peace and justice" = Leftspeak for terrorism and ethnic cleansing.)
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To: sofaman

I know the majority of kollel students are sincere and dedicated. Unfortunately, there are a few who give the institution a bad name.

I say yasher koach to your nephew. It's Torah learning that keeps the nation alive.


119 posted on 08/04/2005 12:20:50 PM PDT by MoochPooch (A righteous person worries about his or her behavior, an extremist about everyone else's.)
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To: Alex Marko
Kahane Chai

Sounds like the name of a Karate dojo.

120 posted on 08/04/2005 12:37:10 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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