Posted on 08/03/2005 4:04:27 AM PDT by leadpenny
Roadside bomb in western Iraq.
By my count, 37 Marines from 3/25 have been killed during this deployment. Very devestating to their community.
I don't think you really want to continue with me. First of all, you need to unwad your panties and get into the context of the remarks I made, it was in response to someone pondering that maybe the USA and USMC worked differently in Iraq. I just gave some first hand accounts.
Now if truth bothers you, then you better get out of my face right now because if I wanted to "rag on" the corps, I've got plenty that I can say, like how the PX had to rearrange their stock and post "No Shoplifting" signs up when the USMC replaced the 82nd in Falluja.
You like apples? How about dem appples?
The USMC has a great public relations machine, but I think that if people saw them in operation they'd have to revise thier opinion.
And your attitude toward the US citizens that go to Iraq, Kuwait, Qatar, etc. to support the troops and military mission is very telling. You claim to support the troops while 'ragging' on those that do so in person and despite peril. What's up with that?
Truth is, that I think that you're skin is too thin for this type of discussion. Maybe we'd all be better off if you didn't try to make this a personal thing?
Can't disagree with you a bit.
One time we saw them, couldn't stop and just gased it and cringed....and they didn't go off and we slipped by... go figure!
This will only get better when the IRaqi's actually step up and do something, no more hiding, no more lies. They know who is doing the violence, assassinations; either step up or get out.
I also originally thought the reason to be in Iraq was to gain a foothold against Iran and Syria. Maybe it's time to cut off the problem at its source.
Maybe you'd be better off un-assing this thread. Your "first-hands" are unverifiable, and from the sh1t coming from your mouth, not believable.
What happened at the PX, some grunts steal a Jenna Jameson DVD before you could get to it?
Stuff your GS rating, and your ranting, puke. There are sh1tbirds in every outfit, and I smell one here.
God rest their souls in his eternal peace, and comfort these brave troop's families. God Bless America.
Learn to read. I did NOT come here to criticize them or the Corps. Simply pointed out some facts in response to someone else's question.
Now you seem to think you know what is going down in Iraq and I don't think you do.
If you want to take this private, I'm game. No need to turn this into an embarrass the corps thread, never was my intention.
It really seems that the way things are don't match up with the way you think they should be or want them to be and that's too bad. Perhaps the Corps in Iraq isn't acting the way you think it should and you're mad at me for telling the truth.
BTW, I was under contract with the military to do a job, had a military ID card and all that went with it. The USMC didn't seem how to deal with people that they couldn't order or intimidate. Like I said earlier, there was an LTC that paid a price for his antics which included using a platoon of Marines to mess with US civilian workers at one of the bases. At gun point. With dogs. And he was wrong and had to pay for it.
It's funny that Truman was a Democrat. Man how times have changed. Maybe the hardest thing for me right now is that all these Marines based so close to my home die for their country, and nobody around here seems to give a F@#$. I can't take it.
Yah, yah, yah. Wave that ID card around some more, sh1tbird. Someone might buy you a beer, but not on this thread.
See? Too thin skinned to handle the facts.
I don't blame you for preferring an image over the facts.
Now to tell you the truth, I didn't much care for how the 82 ran some of their covoys either. But they also had one buck sergeant that gave one of the best briefings I'd seen to that point.
Sadly with that convoy, one of the Humvees shredded a tire and we found out the hard way that the crew didn't know how to change a tire. It took waaaaayyyyy too long, and this was the road between Ramadi and Falluja. Yep, Camp Blue Diamond, right on the river, walled in, and home to JDAM palace. Right across the street to JDAM palace there is a parking lot with a patch in the asphalt. That patch is from a VBIED that detonated on base just before xmas 2003 while the 82 had control of the base, only they called it Champion Main. I spent xmas there and have the menu as a souvegnir. Speaking of Ramadi, I have in my left pocket a challege coin from Ramadi given to me by a USMA friend.
Would you like to know that the floor to the DFAC there used to sag so much that we joked about it making people seasick while at the salad bar? Or how the Filipino food workers took as many mortars as about anyone there? Or about the gold seller that had his pinkey finger accidently shot off by an Iraqi policeman? He told it in a very funny way and was able to laugh about it himself once the stitches were out.
Real enough for you? Beleiveable enough for you? Easily verifiable? nope.
Thanks for yours.
It is good that we pray for that unit and that better days lie ahead for them.
Losing this many guys in this short a time is pretty bad stuff. What really ticks me off, as much if not more that the IED, is the fact that someone allowed an Iraqi to set up some of our Scout Snipers for ambush. Marine Scout Snipers are not easy to replace. Now we haven't been brought up to speed as to exactly what's going on out there; but Haji wants us to run away from Haditha for a reason, probably because our presence interferes with his line of supply into central Iraq.
Be Seeing You,
Chris
Agreed. The city should have been a smoking hole in the sand months and months ago.
I made enough there to enjoy some nice vacations in Amsterdam, Dubai, and Cozumel. Don't need your beer.
But the fact that some people happened to find employment where their skills and knowledge drew a nice wage seems to rankle guys like you. What's up with that?
And before you say it, most contractors wore the uniform and paid their dues. But even retired Marine contractors were treated like crap by Marines in uniform.
One fact is evident, and undeniable. You are blowing your own horn in a thread about 14 dead Marines.
That makes you a sh1tbird.
FYI, those Blackwater guys were warned not to take that route. They were told that it was considered too dangerous to use. But they drove it anyway.
The USMC wasn't geared up to take revenge on the 'insurgents' for what some contractors did, but when they did get geared up and got stomping the Administration stopped them from really winning that engagement they way they should have.
Those cease fires? Ha! That was just time for the Bad Guys to reload their mortars and rockets and shoot at us. The Marines would go out and kill bad guys by the bunch and then get pulled back just when they could have really done some serious damage to them. Those were some intense times!
I said at the time of the Fallujah massacre that after starting to lay siege to the city, I couldn't believe we pulled back and were giving the enemy 2 weeks to regroup, resupply and reconnoiter. That was a really stoopid move on our part, IMHO.
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