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Saudi Arabia's King Fahd is dead

Posted on 08/01/2005 12:12:14 AM PDT by Miztiki

Just reported on Fox News.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fahd; houseofsaud; islam; kingfahd; muslim; obituary; royals; saudiarabia
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To: WestVirginiaRebel
'E's pining!
41 posted on 08/01/2005 12:42:42 AM PDT by RedQuill
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

lol


42 posted on 08/01/2005 12:52:17 AM PDT by wildcatf4f3 (whats wrong with a draft?)
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Iran is going to install a puppet government

43 posted on 08/01/2005 12:53:11 AM PDT by KneelBeforeZod ( I'm going to open Cobra Kai dojos all over this valley!)
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To: KneelBeforeZod
Iran is going to install a puppet government


"Oh no, he's right!"

44 posted on 08/01/2005 12:58:36 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("Canada is the answer to a question that nobody bothered to ask." --Stand W)
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To: RedQuill
He has joined the Choir Invisible! This is an Ex-King!
45 posted on 08/01/2005 12:58:41 AM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Carnac: A siren, a baby and a liberal. Answer: Name three things that whine.)
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To: Brit_Guy

Many Iranians regret the revolution they have done and want democracy. Just take a look at some Iran related news on Free Republic.


46 posted on 08/01/2005 1:09:29 AM PDT by Wiz
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To: KneelBeforeZod

Man, it is so time for a REGIME CHANGE IN SAUDI ARABIA! Compared to the Saudi Kingdom Iran is a paradise of democracy and human rights.


47 posted on 08/01/2005 1:10:19 AM PDT by wolf78
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To: newzjunkey
You have to have moved to a certain place culturally and a certain level of positive economic growth to avoid electing crazy folk.

Case in point: Massachusetts.

48 posted on 08/01/2005 1:11:23 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (crime would drop like a sprung trapdoor if we brought back good old-fashioned hangings)
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To: Miztiki
Ladies and Gentlemen, buckle your seat-belts, there is some turbulence ahead.
49 posted on 08/01/2005 1:22:52 AM PDT by O-Henry
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To: Miztiki
NAME: King Fahd bin Abdul Aziz al-Saud.

BIRTH: 1923, date unknown, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.

BACKGROUND: One of 42 sons of King Abdul Aziz, who founded modern Saudi Arabia. Mother, Hassa, was Abdul Aziz's fifth wife.

EDUCATION: Elementary school only, with heavy emphasis on religion.

POLITICAL CAREER: Became Saudi Arabia's first minister of education in 1953, launching nationwide public schools and encouraging girls to attend. Named interior minister in 1962. Appointed crown prince in 1975 when brother, King Khaled, was in poor health. Assumed throne in 1982 upon Khaled's death. Heir is half-brother, Crown Prince Abdullah.

FAMILY: Believed to have had three wives and eight sons. Eldest son, Faisal, died in 1999 of a heart attack.

AP-ES-08-01-05 0336EDT

50 posted on 08/01/2005 1:25:07 AM PDT by TheOtherOne (I often sacrifice my spelling on the alter of speed™)
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To: Miztiki
Saudi King Fahd Modernized Kingdom While Balancing With Tradition and Orthodox Islam

By Donna Abu-Nasr Associated Press Writer
Published: Aug 1, 2005 RIYADH, Saudi Arabia (AP) - Saudi Arabia's King Fahd sought to modernize his desert kingdom while balancing change against tribal tradition and orthodox Islam, but a stroke a decade ago left him a ruler in name only during tumultuous times for the world's biggest oil producer.

His death Monday comes as the Saudi government pursues an aggressive clampdown on Islamic terrorism and unprecedented reforms.

The portly, goateed Fahd inadvertently helped fuel the rise of Islamic extremism by making concessions to hard-liners in an effort to boost his Islamic credentials. But he also brought the kingdom closer to the United States and agreed to a step that enraged many conservatives: the basing of U.S. troops on Saudi soil after the 1990 Iraqi invasion of Kuwait.

In his last years, the sickly Fahd was mostly a figurehead as the close relationship he nurtured with the United States deteriorated after the Sept. 11 terror attacks. Fifteen of the 19 hijackers were Saudis, and many in the U.S. administration blamed the kingdom's strict Wahhabi school of Islam for fueling terrorism.

It fell to Fahd's half-brother and designated successor, Crown Prince Abdullah, to guide Saudi Arabia. Abdullah, who took on that role wary of close U.S. ties, oversaw the crackdown on religious militants after followers of Saudi-born Osama bin Laden launched a wave of attacks two years ago. He also pushed a campaign against extremist teaching and preaching and introduced the kingdom's first elections, for municipal councils earlier this year.

Saudi Arabia and the United States have also found themselves at odds over oil. Saudi Arabia is the world's largest exporter - sitting atop a quarter of the world's known reserves - and America is the world's largest energy consumer. With prices recently topping $60 a barrel, Washington has been pushing the Saudis to pump more oil and bring prices down.

King Fahd, once a stickler who took a hand in the smallest details of government activities, stayed on the sidelines as the kingdom dealt with those crises.

Visitors who saw Fahd after his 1995 stroke reported he was barely aware of what was going on around him and could not recognize those who shook hands with him. Foreign dignitaries usually were allowed brief meetings, their visits lasting only as long as it took to film footage for the state TV stations. He was usually accompanied by close family members to avoid any potential embarrassment.

On newscasts, the king was shown seated as he extended his hand to visitors or sipped coffee. Occasionally, policy statements, comments or speeches were issued in his name, and he was shown presiding at ministerial meetings when Abdullah was out of town.

Fahd, born in Riyadh in 1923, was proclaimed the fifth king of Saudi Arabia on June 13, 1982.

He assumed the throne just three years after two events in 1979 that would fuel extremism in Saudi Arabia: Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini founded the strictly religious Islamic Republic in Iran just across the Persian Gulf, and radical Muslims briefly took over the holy mosque in Mecca, proclaiming the Saudi royal family not Islamic enough to rule.

Those developments, coupled with Fahd's reputation as a former gambler and womanizer, made the liberal-leaning king move toward appeasing the powerful Saudi religious establishment, including the morals police who enforce strict social codes that oblige women to wear veils and ban men and women from mingling.

Saudi Arabia did not want Shiite Iran to be seen as more Islamic than the Sunni kingdom, birthplace of Islam. So Fahd took the title "custodian of the two holy mosques" - referring to Islam's holiest shrines at Mecca and Medina - and he poured millions of dollars into the religious establishment and into enlarging fundamentalist universities.

In the 1980s, Saudi Arabia, the United States and Pakistan mobilized Muslims to fight the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. Millions of Saudi riyals were donated to that effort and, encouraged by the government, thousands of Saudis joined the war, including bin Laden. The king's official biography described Fahd as "an ardent supporter" of the Afghan mujahedeen.

But after the Soviet withdrawal in 1989, Fahd, like U.S. and Pakistani leaders, gave little attention to the mujahedeen, who turned Afghanistan into a training ground for their attacks, including the 9/11 suicide hijackings.

Earlier in his rule, Fahd was credited with turning Saudi Arabia into one of the Middle East's most modern states despite tribal traditions and Islamic fundamentalists' fears that the changes would dilute Muslims' faith.

In 1985, Fahd's nephew, Prince Sultan bin Salman, went into space aboard the U.S. shuttle Discovery as the first Arab and Muslim astronaut.

When Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait in 1990, raising fears that he also might continue on into Saudi Arabia, Fahd was persuaded to let hundreds of thousands of U.S. and other Western soldiers, including women, into his insular, rigidly Muslim kingdom to face the Iraqis.

The move was sharply criticized by Islamic fundamentalists who oppose Western influence and spawned the first potent opposition to Fahd's rule. Demonstrations were quelled and hundreds of clerics detained. Radicals set off bombs at two U.S. military posts in Saudi Arabia in 1995 and 1996, killing 25 Americans.

Bin Laden, who had earlier been stripped of his Saudi citizenship by Fahd's government, was incensed Saudi leaders opted to put their protection in the hands of "infidel" Western troops, spurning his offer to use the mujahedeen who had fought in Afghanistan to liberate Kuwait. He became even more determined in his opposition to the Saudi royal family.

The Kuwait crisis also cost Saudi Arabia financially. The $60 billion bill, coupled with lower oil prices, forced Fahd to scale back lavish benefits that maintained citizens' loyalty - free education, free medical treatment, free lots for homes and businesses. It wasn't until late 2004, amid high oil prices, that the Saudi Cabinet balanced the budget for the first time in nearly a decade.

The stroke left Fahd with short-term memory loss and an inability to concentrate for long stretches. Even before the stroke, he suffered from arthritis, diabetes and a bad knee. The overweight monarch got around in a wheelchair and used a cane for short walks in his later years.

He underwent eye cataract surgery once in 2002 in Geneva and a year later in Riyadh. A few days before the Geneva surgery, he was operated on to remove a blood clot from one of his eyes.

Fahd was the son of the founder of modern Saudi Arabia, King Abdul-Aziz, and got an elementary school education with a heavy emphasis on religion at a school set up by Abdul-Aziz for his 42 sons.

He loved the good life and traveled often, enjoying years of high living. But when he was in his late 20s, he was summoned and told that to maintain his place in the succession he had to shape up.

As the country's huge oil reserves brought the once impoverished country massive wealth, Saudi Arabia's primitive tribal society underwent an abrupt transformation, often with outside help.

In 1953, Fahd became the nation's first education minister, laying the foundation for a nationwide school system that grew from 30,000 students to more than 3.2 million students today enrolled in seven universities, 83 colleges and over 18,000 schools throughout the country.

In 1962, he became interior minister and then crown prince in 1975 when King Faisal was slain by a deranged nephew. Fahd was de factor ruler during the seven-year reign of his brother Khaled, a devout and apolitical man, and assumed the throne formally at Khaled's death in 1982.

Fahd always appeared in the traditional flowing white robe and "mishlah" - the camel-colored cape adorned with spun gold. He was a night-owl who slept during the day and often opened weekly ministerial meetings near midnight. His short working hours and centralized style - he insisted on approving even minor details - left a constant bottleneck of paperwork.

Little is known about Fahd's private life, but he is believed to have had three wives and eight sons. His eldest son, Faisal, died in 1999 of a heart attack.

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51 posted on 08/01/2005 1:25:59 AM PDT by TheOtherOne (I often sacrifice my spelling on the alter of speed™)
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To: O-Henry

Nah.........


52 posted on 08/01/2005 1:27:21 AM PDT by beyond the sea ("If you think it's hard to meet new people, try picking up the wrong golf ball." - Jack Lemmon)
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Allegedly real quote shamelessly stolen from another board:

"I summon my blue-eyed slaves anytime it pleases me. I command the Americans to send me their bravest soldiers to die for me. Anytime I clap my hands a stupid genie called the American ambassador appears to do my bidding. When the Americans die in my service their bodies are frozen in metal boxes by the US Embassy and American airplanes carry them away, as if they never existed. Truly, America is my favorite slave."

-King Fahd Bin Abdul-Aziz, Jeddeh 1993


53 posted on 08/01/2005 1:29:50 AM PDT by nerdwithamachinegun (All generalizations are wrong.)
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To: TheOtherOne

Thanks for posting that information. Lots of interesting stuff in there.

Do you have something similar for the new King Abdullah? At least I think that's who the new king is now.


55 posted on 08/01/2005 1:38:18 AM PDT by Miztiki (Pearland, TX (just southeast of Houston))
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To: nerdwithamachinegun

Enlightening.


56 posted on 08/01/2005 1:38:48 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: Deetes
Hasn't the King died a few times in the last few months ? Last time they feared rioting .

Yeah, they're probably just pulling our legs again.

I hear it's only a flesh wound.

;-)

Or is he just metaphysically challenged?

57 posted on 08/01/2005 1:43:59 AM PDT by Allegra (Less Than 20 Days Until R&R - W'HOOOO!)
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To: Miztiki
No prob, if I am up, I will post as soon as the AP adds something. They just posted this:

A Look at Failed Mideast Peace Plan Proposed by King Fahd in 1981

Published: Aug 1, 2005 King Fahd proposed an eight-point Mideast peace plan during an Arab League summit in Fez, Morocco, in 1981, but it was scuttled by vehement opposition from Arab hard-liners because of its implicit recognition of Israel.

The proposal called for an independent Palestinian state that would include the West Bank, the Gaza Strip and east Jerusalem, an idea opposed by Israel's government.

At the same time, the plan would have required all states in the region to agree to live together in peace. While not specifically naming Israel, that clause meant Arab nations would have to accept the Jewish state's right to exist, hard-liners argued.

In 2002, Saudi Arabia unveiled a similar plan, offering Israel normalized relations in exchange for its full withdrawal from Arab lands captured in 1967, the creation of a Palestinian state and settlement of the Palestinian refugee issue.

Israel rebuffed the plan, which found little support in the United States and Europe.

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58 posted on 08/01/2005 1:46:03 AM PDT by TheOtherOne (I often sacrifice my spelling on the alter of speed™)
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To: newzjunkey

You are kidding, right?


59 posted on 08/01/2005 1:57:46 AM PDT by D-fendr
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many in the U.S. administration blamed the kingdom's strict Wahhabi school of Islam for fueling terrorism.

And they're right. Wahhabism and all the money the princes give terrorists is a major fueling.

60 posted on 08/01/2005 2:04:36 AM PDT by D-fendr
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