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Judicial comment sets Crist apart
St. Petersburg Times ^ | July 31, 2005 | STEVE BOUSQUET

Posted on 07/31/2005 3:38:47 AM PDT by amdgmary

TALLAHASSEE - It was one of the shortest speeches of Charlie Crist's career, but as a campaign for governor unfolds, it may prove to be one of the most memorable.

Two weeks ago, the Republican attorney general and candidate for governor gave a late-night speech to a roomful of lawyers in Miami where he referred to the judges in the Terri Schiavo case as "heroes."

Crist insists he wasn't endorsing court rulings that prevented the brain-damaged woman's feeding tube from being reconnected, but critics view it differently. And by appearing to break his silence in the Schiavo case, Crist has sharpened the contrast between himself and Republican rival Tom Gallagher, who has said he favored government action to "prevent Terri's starvation."

At the dinner in Miami, Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Judge George Greer and U.S. District Judge James Whittemore of Tampa were honored as jurists of the year by the Florida chapter of ABOTA, the American Board of Trial Advocates. The group champions judicial independence and its members are lawyers who represent both plaintiffs and defendants.

Greer is the judge who ordered Schiavo's feeding tube removed, rejecting a subpoena from Congress and pleas from Gov. Jeb Bush, and Whittemore also denied emergency requests to reinsert the tube in the weeks before Schiavo died March 31. Both men's decisions were later upheld by higher courts, and both were praised and vilified by opposing sides of the emotionally charged end-of-life case.

Crist said he was "proud" of both judges.

"You are heroes to all of us, and your defense of the judiciary and what is right is beyond admirable," Crist was quoted in the Daily Business Review, a Miami newspaper that provided the only news account of the July 15 event at the Biltmore Hotel in Coral Gables.

In an interview, Crist did not dispute the quotations. Nor did he offer a view of whether he agreed with their decisions. Rather, he said, he praised them for fulfilling their constitutional duty to provide checks and balances against the other two branches of government.

"I try to say nice things about judges. I'm sure I was complimentary," said Crist, who as the state's chief legal officer often speaks at bar-related events. "I didn't talk about any specific case. ... It's important that those checks and balances exist. Our system of government needs to have that."

Crist's comments have resonated far beyond the Biltmore.

"Judge Greer is a poster child for everything that's wrong with the judiciary," said Gary Cass, executive director of the Center for Reclaiming America, a grass roots Christian political group in Fort Lauderdale that lists "sanctity of life" as one of its priorities and plans to form a political action committee.

"For Charlie Crist to hold that up as an example of good judicial practice concerns me," Cass said. "I think it was a mistake for Charlie to say that. I don't know how anybody can be happy about a woman being deprived food and water."

Rep. Dennis Baxley, the Republican from Ocala who sponsored legislation last spring to force the tube to be reconnected, said Crist's speech was revealing.

"I think it is one of those very important moments for us to know where he (Crist) stands," Baxley said. "I truly believe there's a lot of people out there who were sensitive to this case who are going to find those comments, and that association, very instructive. I'm understanding where people line up on this."

Baxley said that while Crist was "conspicuously absent" from the Schiavo debate in the Legislature, Gallagher sent Baxley a personal letter of support last spring. While activists in the Schiavo debate take aim at Crist, his Republican rival Gallagher is not.

"Tom's made his position very clear in the past. There's really no comment we're going to make on that," said David Johnson, a Gallagher adviser.

Polls show a majority of Americans agreed with the judges' decisions to order the removal of Schiavo's tube, as her husband, Michael, said she wanted. By a greater margin, polls show people were opposed to Congress' intervention in the case.

But to those who view the long-running Schiavo saga as a test case of support for the sanctity of life - like abortion - Greer and Whittemore are "judicial activists" who starved a woman to death.

Many of those people can vote in the Republican primary for governor in September 2006. Crist's stand on the Schiavo case could prove to be an asset if he wins the GOP nomination and faces a Democrat. But one Republican strategist said the damage has been done.

"Schiavo killed the Republicans. They've lost the women's vote," said Matt Towery, an ex-Republican legislator who now runs an Atlanta media and polling firm. "It's one of those turning points that you just can't get away from."


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Florida
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To: amdgmary; M Kehoe
Some say tomato and some say tomahto
Some say potato and some say potahto
Tomato, tomahto, potato, potahto
Oh, let's call the whole thing off

Some say Frist and some say Crist
Some say Crist and some say Frist
Frist, Crist, Crist, Frist
Oh, let's call them both off, too

Leni

161 posted on 08/02/2005 8:43:27 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: amdgmary

What the Crist is he trying to do?


162 posted on 08/02/2005 10:12:17 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Freedom of speech makes it much easier to spot the idiots." [Jay Lessig, 2/7/2005])
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To: amdgmary

Judas H. Crist! I think Crist looks like he might be a clone of Marshall Applewhite, of the Heaven's Gate Cult! Just give him a few years...


We report. You decide.
163 posted on 08/02/2005 10:55:52 PM PDT by Wampus SC (Serf City here we come!)
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To: Lancey Howard
Ask Tennessee what they think of Bill Frist. I don't vote there.

I don't listen to talk radio much any more including Rush because I've lost interest in it.

164 posted on 08/03/2005 4:34:14 AM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: Wampus SC

All Crist needs is the spaceship.


165 posted on 08/03/2005 4:35:54 AM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: Lancey Howard

Frist flip flopped on Terri - looks like a pattern to me.


166 posted on 08/03/2005 4:44:13 AM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: Sun; 8mmMauser; tutstar; russesjunjee; Republic; amdgmary; Halls
WARDS IN PINELLAS COUNTY ARE SEPARATED FROM THEIR MONEY but the system is hunkering down to avoid scrutiny.... from a friend who's in radio: The corrupt looting and thievery of real estate and bank accounts and other tangible and intangible assets (yes, there are an unknown number of honest cases mixed in among the transactions) under the professional guardianship program in Pinellas is either drying up -- OR more of these assignments are being controlled by fewer and fewer trusted friends of the court. (Somebody should study and follow those numbers, Bernie McCabe is the best friend of the court and he ain't gonna do it.)

With the word out on how the scam is run, I hear assignments of lucrative guardianships have been hard to come by the past four months. Fear not, when the heat is off, the dirty parasites will be back. I am still not forgetting the Clearwater courthouse looting and theft of just one modest estate -- talk about perverse kangaroo injustice. It's always about greed driven official abuse of power and their bag men (and women) operating under color of law corrupted.

These are EVIL MEN and the trail of corruption and deceit goes all the way to Tallahassee and to Washington District of Criminals.

167 posted on 08/03/2005 4:52:41 AM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: Sun
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1455160/posts

More Crist bashing over here.

168 posted on 08/03/2005 5:53:34 AM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: Sun
Well, I got at least one person that lives in Florida to say that he will NOT vote for Charlie Crist...

Count me as another.

169 posted on 08/03/2005 6:24:35 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

Well, I got at least one person that lives in Florida to say that he will NOT vote for Charlie Crist...

"Count me as another."

:)


170 posted on 08/03/2005 7:28:54 AM PDT by Sun (Call U.S. senators toll-free, 1-877-762-8762; tell them to give Roberts an up or down vote.)
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To: floriduh voter

Somebody said that Crist was not very helpful throughout the "Jessica Lunsford" matter. Do you know anything about this?


171 posted on 08/03/2005 8:10:30 AM PDT by Sun (Call U.S. senators toll-free, 1-877-762-8762; tell them to give Roberts an up or down vote.)
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To: ovrtaxt
I've been observing Crist for years. There's never been anything about him that excites me.

Typical politician buttkisser.

He strikes me a Southern style Chris Shays.

172 posted on 08/03/2005 11:53:42 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

I didn't realize Crist was so hip to the lameass Eminent Domain ruling. Count me as someone who will work AGAINST Crist for governor.


173 posted on 08/03/2005 11:56:57 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: tenthirteen

Same here, tenthirteen. Crist is going to face massive opposition from this household. Someone else posted on this thread that Crist's opinion of the Eminent Domain ruling by SCOTUS is favorable. Whatta massive RINO.


174 posted on 08/03/2005 12:02:22 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: Sun

there are two "accesories to the crime" that they let off the hook somehow. Another screwup


175 posted on 08/03/2005 12:09:02 PM PDT by eartotheground (now that someone has read the autopsy report, perhaps the MSM will change their stories? NAAH)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Here is the thread I posted with Crist's statements a la eminent domain here in FloriDUH:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1435707/posts

We want this for governor?


176 posted on 08/03/2005 1:38:11 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s......you weren't really there.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

No, we don't want him for governor. Not at all.


177 posted on 08/03/2005 1:44:57 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: eartotheground

"there are two "accesories to the crime" that they let off the hook somehow. Another screwup"

Some naive people are saying that he is conservative, but if he is weak on law and order, worse than weak on the social conservative issues and pro-eminent domain, how is he conservative??


178 posted on 08/03/2005 2:41:00 PM PDT by Sun (Call U.S. senators toll-free, 1-877-762-8762; tell them to give Roberts an up or down vote.)
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To: All; floriduh voter

This re: Jessical Lumsford:

http://billoreilly.com/show?action=...ow&showID=241#1

Interesting snippet from the link:

Quote:
Crist said he has no authority to order Brad King to prosecute Couey's acquaintances. "He's an independently elected individual and has the prosecutorial discretion to make those kinds of decisions." The Factor again expressed anger at the decision not to prosecute. "What do you say to Jessica's father? These three people are partially responsible for that little girl's death. You can't just let them walk around the state of Florida without being punished."


179 posted on 08/03/2005 3:50:14 PM PDT by Sun (Call U.S. senators toll-free, 1-877-762-8762; tell them to give Roberts an up or down vote.)
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To: All
Tutstar has a thread going on the limits of living wills.

Dying Smart

180 posted on 08/03/2005 6:56:34 PM PDT by 8mmMauser (www.ChristtheKingMaine.com)
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