Posted on 07/23/2005 4:09:43 AM PDT by rabair
Blasts kill 83 in Egyptian Red Sea resort Sat Jul 23, 2005 11:37 AM BST
By Tom Perry
SHARM EL-SHEIKH, Egypt (Reuters) - At least 83 people were killed and 200 injured when car bombs ripped through markets and hotels in the Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheikh on Saturday in the worst attack in Egypt since 1981.
Shaken European tourists spoke of mass panic and hysteria as people fled the carnage in the early hours, with bodies strewn across the roads, people screaming and sirens wailing.
The regional governor said two car bombs and possibly a suitcase bomb had rocked the resort, popular with divers and European holidaymakers.
One blast tore the front off the Ghazala Gardens Hotel in Naama Bay, the site of most of the resort's luxury hotels. People were feared trapped in the rubble of the lobby.
A car broke into the hotel compound and exploded in front of the building, South Sinai Governor Mustafa Afifi said.
A senior security source in Sharm el-Sheikh said 83 people were killed and 23 people were in critical condition, from among 35 casualties taken to Cairo for treatment.
Most of the victims were Egyptians but the Tourism Minsirty spokeswoman said Seven non-Egyptians were dead, including a Czech and an Italian, and 20 were injured.
The injured foreigners were nine Italians, five Saudis, three Britons, a Russian, a Ukrainian and an Israeli Arab, spokesman Hala el-Khatib told reporters. But the British Foreign Office in London said that eight Britons were injured.
A group claiming links to the al Qaeda organisation said it carried out the bombings in retaliation for "crimes committed against Muslims", according to an Internet statement.
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Actually, you are the one spouting the liberal talking points. I agree, the truth shall set us free--but your distortions will only make things worse.
Correct.
It's happening in spite of the Iraq War.
And it will continue until we carry a generous helping of death and destruction directly to training camps and Taliban type schools.
We know where they are. Do you know any good reason why we have not done so?
Neither do I.
Wasn't Anwar Sadat assasinated by an islamic extremist?"
Yes, he was ... the 'Muslim Brotherhood', which a Mr Zawahiri, now #2 in Al Qaeda, headed ... this is Al Qaeda/ Muslim Brotherhood operation.
As we see in Iraq, the victims of Jihadist terrorism are Muslim as well. Some of these Muslims will have to wake up and see they have their own "Enemy Within".
Poor guy (the Egyptian diplomat that was killed) thought that being a fellow Muslim made him exempt from political assassination. Foolish.
Sometimes the truth is painful, angering, even cause you to spill your koolaid!
I am sorry to hear you support Saddam Hussein and his reign of terror on the Iraqui people.
In fact Afghanistan was only a small part of 911, In fact we should have gone to saudi Arabia, but their oil saved them. We did the next best thing and remember even Bill Clinton Democrats at one time believed in WMD.
He's just busy preparing his own list - probably starts with the Jews taking over Canaan after being expelled from Egypt, Jews migrating to Babylon, Jews causing the Romans to impose martial law, the Crusades, etc.
Then to round it out, he needs to include the West's history of imperialism, colonialism, and general history of militarism and oppression dating back to Alexander's conquest of Persia, etc.
If he hasn't prepared such a list, perhaps you can help him out. That way, one more self-loathing, US hating hippy can have some comfort when confronting a typically well armed (informationally) FReeper.
You need to read this FR article and scroll to post #3:
Attack in London : the "war" excuse
It isnt only terrorists that are pushing the idea that we should have stayed out of Iraq its liberals trash in the Congress and the liberal trash media.
And a larger number of "freepers" than I would have thought likely.
islamofascism is a tool of the communists. they have helped to harvest and fund this hatred against the west. there's a china military manual written around 1999 which talks about asymmetrical warfare ie terrorism to attack the west, i believe they actually talked about flying planes into the WTC.
the russian kgb actually had a hand in creating arafat, they bankrolled his operation and gave him a new identity. he was NOT palestinian, he was egyptian. for more info:
"The KGB's Man"
http://www.jr.co.il/articles/politics/kgbman.txt
the article above is written by former head of romanian kgb, ion pacepa.
have no doubt that this is a proxy war against the united states. the enemy of my enemy is my friend....
"They're insane."
You almost got it. They are desperate. Desperation, does, in fact, border on the insane.
Arafat's mentor,The Mufti of Jerusalem, helped pave the way for Rommel's drive into Egypt. The Mufti also collaborated with the Nazis on the "final solution" for the Jews.
He should have been tried at Nuremberg, but instead, I think he lived freely in Cairo until his death in the 70's.
Yes.
Raiding the madrassas won't get the job done.
Victory in this war requires the simultaneous conquest and occupation of the Arabian peninsula and Pakistan.
This is a job for an Army of 80-100 divisions.
We don't have it, and aren't planning to create it.
Good enough for you?
Yup. One of the original founders of Al-Qa'eda was involved. Forgot his name but, Osama had him killed and then took over Al-Qa'eda... and then, the doctor joined Osama.
i'm fed up with the american media.
today's newspapers are full of "studies" that show the iraq war "caused" the terrorism.
I am one who does cite our constant interventionism and meddling for our being targeted for terrorism. But I am getting to the "ignorant" point where I am not thinking about the roots of the conflict anymore. Regardless of whether what they say is true, targeting innocent people like this is counter-productive and an OUTRAGE. I mean, I can respect resistance to occupation and even understand the message when they target oil pipelines contractors are building. I can understand them targeting armed military people, or politicians. But folks staying at a hotel? A bus? A train? Now they are even killing fellow Muslims. They, not traditional military power, will defeat themselves with unconscionable acts like this. Hopefully we will not convince peaceful Muslims that we, rather than they, are their enemy. Clearly they are more than happy to kill Muslims, and Muslims should see that this bombing is proof of that. At some point, people will say enough!
Believe it or not, Iconoclast's facts are essentially correct, it's just his conclusions that are faulty.
He is correct that the war in Iraq offered opportunities for Al Qaeda, both in training and in recruitment. Unfortunately this is where he chooses to end his chain of logic, and I contend that there are much larger considerations.
Why did we "lose" in Vietnam?
Because we decided not to confront the sources of North Vietnam's military capability, and because we chose not to interdict their routes of logistic supply.
Why did Russia lose in Afghanistan?
Because they chose not to confront the US directly over supplying arms and aid to the mujahideen, and they chose not to interdict our supply line through Pakistan.
An army marches on its stomach.
Amatuers address tactics, professionals discuss logistics.
Cut off the guns, bombs and bullets and any insurgency withers on the vine.
Stand one step further back from the front lines, cut off the funding, and all the porous borders on earth will not matter militarily.
Prior to 9/11, terrorist Islam possessed 4 economic centers of gravity.
1. The Afghan Bureau of Pakistan's Inter Service Intelligence Agency.
2. Saudi Arabia's General Intelligence Service, under Prince Turki al-Faisal, under Prince Nayaf, hardline Wahabbist, contesting the western friendly Prince Abdullah for political supremacy of the Kingdom. (Interesting sidebar, the great and friendly Saudi Ambassador to the US, wired into the deepest levels of American politics, is one Prince Bandar, Turki al-Faisal's son.) The Saudi Golden Circle of Twelve falls partly under this classification, partly under the next.
3. The global Islamic charity network, a portion of which knowingly funds terrorist activities, and a portion of which Bin Laden has deliberately infiltrated for the purposes of diverting funds.
4. Iran.
Up until 9/11 Iran was safely hiding behind two extremist and extremely anti-western buffer zones, the Taliban in Afghanistan, and Iraq under Saddam Hussein. Iran was openly funding Hizbollah and Hamas, playing hardball because they could afford to play hardball. Only an idiot would drive on Tehran with 23 unopposed Iraqi divisions threatening our left flank and supply lines.
Saddam facilitated his own demise with every virtue at his disposal.
There are now no Iraqi divisions ready to stream to Tehran's aid.
Iran is now surrounded on all sides, elephant cage antennas along thousands of miles of borders which are porous in two directions, and the Mullahs now are reduced to one single reason supporting a continued hardball approach.
In their minds (and an enemy's perception will always influence his decision making process more than any reality which he does not personally embrace), if Iran can achieve nuclear ignition before the government in Tehran falls, they "win". They win, because it buys them time, and time for terrorists is running out.
There is no superpower that is financially supporting the insurgency in Iraq. The only Ho Chi Minh Trails are in the very countries we are looking for excuses to execute a regime change within Iran and Syria.
We have radical Islam by the wallet, they are on the ropes in the large scale, and this is exemplified with every weakening and failed attack they attempt to execute.
Iraq, by accident or by concious design, is an important part of the overall strategy. Tehran knows this. Riyahd knows this. (This is why Prince Abdullah privately allowed almost a full division of US and UK SOF troops to base out of Ar Ar, Saudi Arabia for the Iraqi invasion, in spite of public statements to the contrary. Ditto Jordan.) Islamabad knows this, Cairo knows this, Damascus knows this, Ankhara knows this, and Amman knows this.
Any temporary benefits Al Qaeda enjoys as a result of the Iraqi invasion, and any honest assessment will admit that a few of these exist, are outweighed by orders of magnitude in the strategic level logistics picture.
The only ones who don't know this seem to be the American Left, the western media, and Iconoclast.
A pity, his analytical and data mining abilities appear to be honed well enough to have been useful in other circumstances.
Heh heh - well played.
If one were to listen to German, Japanese and/or Soviet newscasts during those respective conflicts, one would quickly learn (gasp!) that they felt justified in their actions. And, surprise surprise, were extremely critical of Allied opposition to their plans.
You know, like it was silly to confront the Nazis in Normandy; after all the fight was all about lebensraum in the East. Likewise the Japanese - why fight them in the Pacific, when it was all about oil/rubber/steel resources for Imperial Japan's economy?
The appearance of reasoned criticism is much more effective than the plaintive screeching one typically hears from the left.
Yes, I'm sure if we'd only buried our heads in the sand and ignored the terror going on everywhere else in the world, they'd have never attacked us. Sure. Right. (/sarcasm)
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