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Dead Boys Alive in Trunk for 17 Hours
FOXNews.com ^ | 7/19/2005 | Associated Press

Posted on 07/19/2005 9:34:10 AM PDT by AbeKrieger

CAMDEN, N.J. — Three boys who suffocated in a car trunk last month were alive for at least 17 hours, slowly succumbing while police searched their neighborhood, a lawyer for the family of one of the boys says. Lawyer Peter M. Villari told The New York Times that officials of the Camden County prosecutor's office went over details of an autopsy report with him, the newspaper reported Tuesday. The boys, ages 5, 6 and 11, disappeared from the yard where they were playing a little after 5 p.m. on June 22. Their deaths were ruled accidental. Relatives searched for the boys for three hours and then called authorities. A two-day search that included dogs, helicopters and boats on the nearby Delaware River ended when the father of one of the boys found them dead in the trunk of an inoperable car sitting just feet from where they had been playing. The autopsy report, which has not been released publicly, found that the boys died between 10:30 a.m. on June 23 and 2:30 a.m. on June 24, Villari said. That estimate was based on fluid and tissue samples and weather data, he said. Villari told the newspaper that responsibility for the deaths is now "squarely on the shoulders of the police." "I think the numbers speak for themselves," he said. "They were certainly alive when the police arrived and certainly well after the search started." Villari did no immediately return a call seeking additional comment Tuesday. The prosecutors' office had no immediate comment.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: camden; missing; police; suffocation
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To: newfrpr04

Amen to your comment about lawyers.


121 posted on 07/19/2005 11:12:18 AM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Imagine the possibility of a police department being able to do more than one thing at a time.


122 posted on 07/19/2005 11:12:53 AM PDT by new cruelty
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To: SunnyUsa
If it had been your son in that car, and you never thought to look in the car...

It's not the parent's job to find their missing child. That's the cops' job.

It's the parent's job to sue.

123 posted on 07/19/2005 11:13:40 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws spawned the runaway federal health care monopoly and fund terrorism.)
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To: linkinpunk
No one pays. The police are indemnified. They can not be held responsible for not doing something. LOOK IT UP!!!!
124 posted on 07/19/2005 11:14:00 AM PDT by ImAmerican
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
So your contention is that when a missing child call is made, the police are to drop everything else until they find the child?

Wow, your ignorance is showing.

you're obviously not involved with police, fire or EMS/rescue work - I am..... It would be top priority in any police department to find missing children....

125 posted on 07/19/2005 11:14:09 AM PDT by SunnyUsa (No man really becomes a fool until he stops asking questions.)
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To: kx9088

The car is the FIRST place I would have checked. Any place where a kid could be trapped like the truck, a refrigerator freezer etc. Dear God how my heart hurts for those kids!


126 posted on 07/19/2005 11:14:31 AM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
So your contention is that when a missing child call is made, the police are to drop everything else until they find the child?

And your contention is that the police department in its entirety cannot chew bubble gum and walk at the same time. They have more than one person on staff at a time. LOL.

127 posted on 07/19/2005 11:14:32 AM PDT by new cruelty
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To: new cruelty
Imagine the possibility of a police department being able to do more than one thing at a time.

So they are to deploy officers in search of the missing child until that child is found?

128 posted on 07/19/2005 11:15:00 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws spawned the runaway federal health care monopoly and fund terrorism.)
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To: new cruelty
And your contention is that the police department in its entirety cannot chew bubble gum and walk at the same time. They have more than one person on staff at a time. LOL.

BWAAA-HAAA-HAAA!!!

You can't even answer a simple question.

I'll repeat it, in honor of you adult ADD: When a missing child call is made, are the police supposed to drop everything else and keep searching until they find that child?

It's a "yes" or "no" question.

129 posted on 07/19/2005 11:17:14 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws spawned the runaway federal health care monopoly and fund terrorism.)
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To: hershey

You can pull a trunk lid down from the inside, it's not difficult at all.

Sure, the river would be the next place I would have been checking after I thoroughly checked my property, my neighbors property and anywhere else in the vicinity that they would usually like to wonder to.


130 posted on 07/19/2005 11:17:17 AM PDT by kx9088
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To: linkinpunk

i think the village is responsible...


131 posted on 07/19/2005 11:18:30 AM PDT by ronnied (we are the only animals that bare our teeth in greeting...)
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To: linkinpunk

Why on Earth should they? Because the police didn't use his x-ray vision to see inside the trunk? because they didn't force their way into a trunk of a car? When children are missing from here on in, should every car in a certain radius be pried open now? What a horrible precendent.


132 posted on 07/19/2005 11:18:30 AM PDT by Hildy ("You miss 100% of the shots you never take." - Wayne Gretzky)
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To: linkinpunk

It looks like you're looking for another pay day!!


133 posted on 07/19/2005 11:18:37 AM PDT by Betteboop
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To: tfecw

"And if you don't know/can't find the owner?"

Call your superior, break it open. Unattended vehicles have no rights.


134 posted on 07/19/2005 11:22:51 AM PDT by Xiaoding
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To: Xiaoding
hmm interesting line of thought. Is that something the cops can only do? Or am I able to go to any parking lot and start popping trunks?
135 posted on 07/19/2005 11:26:29 AM PDT by tfecw (Vote Democrat, It's easier than working)
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To: tfecw

hmm interesting line of thought. Is that something the cops can only do? Or am I able to go to any parking lot and start popping trunks?"

It's a game! Go to a parking lot, start popping trunks, see how many you can pop before someone stops you. Then go back and try to beat that score!


136 posted on 07/19/2005 11:31:31 AM PDT by Xiaoding
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To: SunnyUsa

Someone on the thread wrote it was a '92, which would not have the release. Same post also said though that there was a locking mechanism that could have prevented the kids from accessing the trunk from the passenger compartment, which is apparently what happened.

I have a young son myself and I just get sick whenever this story comes up. Time to move to a football thread or something else.


137 posted on 07/19/2005 11:33:13 AM PDT by Steelerfan
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

ADD? You're the one that deciphered my comments to mean that the police should drop everything. In case you don't understand, I agree with you that the parents bear the responsibility of looking out for their children. The police should now know to do a more thorough search. But I'll play along and in honor of your inability to comprehend, I'll restate my answer another way- No, the police department does not have to drop everything to conduct a search. They are capable of doing more than one thing at a time.


138 posted on 07/19/2005 11:34:26 AM PDT by new cruelty
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To: new cruelty

How long are they supposed to search?


139 posted on 07/19/2005 11:41:42 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws spawned the runaway federal health care monopoly and fund terrorism.)
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To: Owl_Eagle
Guys who could never get a job anywhere else in the state end up in Camden.

I seem to remember that a few years ago, the city of Camden went bankrupt and was taken over by the state of NJ.

Do you know if that is true? If so, does Camden still have a police department, or is it under the juristiction of the NJ State Police?

140 posted on 07/19/2005 11:42:58 AM PDT by bankwalker (You get what you believe.)
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