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Bias against Southerners misses the mark
Pasco Times ^ | July 11, 2005 | RICHARD COX

Posted on 07/14/2005 6:10:21 AM PDT by robowombat

Bias against Southerners misses the mark By RICHARD COX Published July 11, 2005

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Does prejudice exist in Pasco County, an area with a very diverse population and seemingly very progressive?

I am certain that African-Americans, Hispanics and people from other countries, the poor and homeless, as well as members of certain religious faiths, experience treatment different from the mainstream populace. However, I am a member of a minority who has experienced attitudes and reactions from many individuals who assume that I am intellectually and socially challenged.

A very large percentage of the population of New Port Richey in particular is from the Northeast. I personally like the outspokenness, mince-no-words attitude, the ability to criticize as well as accept criticism without being offended, that seems to represent the culture in which Northerners grew up.

My family members seem to have the disadvantage of being born and living most of our lives in the South, in our case, Tennessee. I grew up in Knoxville, a city that many people seem to associate only with the fanatical behavior of our college football fans, and my wife is from a small city near Chattanooga.

There still seems to be a stereotype that some people associate with Tennesseans. When those individuals heard the distinct accent of my wife, my stepdaughter, and myself, it seemed to conjure up that redneck image one might associate with the humor of Jeff Foxworthy and other Southern comedians. That image is of a culture of ignorant hillbillies (certainly due to inbreeding!), barefoot, living in a shack with no indoor plumbing (but certainly an outhouse in back), having a dog living under the front porch, and owning an overgrown lawn populated with broken-down, dilapidated automobiles. And, yes, we all chew tobacco and sit on the front porch swing playing the banjo. Everyone also flies a Confederate flag and reminisces about the War Between the States.

I first noticed this attitude when my stepdaughter, an honor student, came home from middle school several days in tears because several other students harassed her daily, calling her an ignorant redneck and hillbilly among other derogatory terms. My wife and I have experienced the sudden change in facial expressions from many when they hear our accent. They seem to associate our accent with ignorance, and speak in simpler terms so that we can understand what they are saying. Telephone conversations often produce the same reaction.

I beg to differ. Tennessee is the home of several major universities, four major metropolitan areas with all the drug and gang problems associated with other large cities, and the most visited national park in the United States. Oak Ridge, in the Knoxville area, probably has as high a percentage of residents with doctorate degrees as any city in the United States. Tennessee has a musical heritage equal to none, and it is not exclusively country or bluegrass genres. Many nationally prominent politicians are from my home state, including three former presidents.

Tennessee has produced many famous musicians, actors, scientists and other intellectual and talented natives.

Well, to set the story straight, rural areas of most states have their own populace and dwellings that approach this stereotype.

My wife and I grew up in your average suburban neighborhoods, we both graduated from major universities and had successful professional careers, and, to risk seeming boastful, are probably as intelligent and knowledgeable, if not more so, than the average American. Believe it or not, East Tennessee, the section of the state we are from, fervently supported the Union during the Civil War.

I have noticed in the Pasco Times notices of meetings for various groups from areas of the Northeast and from other countries. Perhaps Southerners in our area should form a similar group. With apologies to an African-American group with a similar title, we could call our group the NAASF, the National Association for the Advancement of Southern Folks, Pasco County Branch. I hope there are enough local Southern residents available to attract to our organization.

--Richard Cox, a retired middle school science teacher and department head, lives in New Port Richey


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Philosophy; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: accent; bigotry; dixie; greatname; pasco; tennessee; thesouth
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To: WKB

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441 posted on 07/18/2005 7:01:12 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

ARe you a blond?
(I guess that' a dumb question)
that artilce was dated a year ago
which was the last account I had
I told you the stats may have changed since then.
Take a break and chill out


442 posted on 07/18/2005 7:03:46 AM PDT by WKB (A closed mind is a good thing to lose.)
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To: Non-Sequitur; bourbon

Here's more on the disproportionate rate of Southerners fighting and dying to save yer bacon (and yet you deny them that):

http://www.defenselink.mil/prhome/poprep2002/chapter2/c2_geography.htm

this link was waiting for me when I arose this morning.....


443 posted on 07/18/2005 7:08:53 AM PDT by wardaddy (i love my new discounted GMC dually......proud flyoverlander.....bonnie blue out front!)
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To: stand watie

that sounds like a great poster


444 posted on 07/18/2005 7:09:46 AM PDT by wardaddy (i love my new discounted GMC dually......proud flyoverlander.....bonnie blue out front!)
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To: WKB
haven't you met N-S???

N-S is The Damnyankee Minister of Propaganda.

according to N-S, everything done by damnyankees is PERFECT & everything ever done by any southerner was/is flawed.

it's called telling LIES. that is the JOB of a PROPAGANDIST.

free dixie,sw

445 posted on 07/18/2005 7:10:25 AM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: stand watie
Oh yes
I've net him on every Southern thread I have ever been on
except one where he didn't say a word even though he
]was invited twice.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1444524/posts
446 posted on 07/18/2005 7:13:40 AM PDT by WKB (A closed mind is a good thing to lose.)
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To: wardaddy
it IS!

free dixie,sw

447 posted on 07/18/2005 7:14:46 AM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: WKB
i wish to point out to you that:

N-S is the ONLY member of the DAMNyankee coven of south-HATERSon FR who has both a brain & a sound education.

the REST are just HATERS & PITIFULLY DUMB.

free dixie,sw

448 posted on 07/18/2005 7:18:51 AM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: stand watie

shhhh....don't given him the bighead..


449 posted on 07/18/2005 7:20:27 AM PDT by wardaddy (i love my new discounted GMC dually......proud flyoverlander.....bonnie blue out front!)
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To: FreedomCalls; wardaddy

That Motor City tattoo rocks.

I'm not the tatooting type, but if I were, the Mississippi motto ("Virtute et Armis" or "Virtue and Arms") would a tempting choice. I think it would look especially good over a picture of some criss-crossed small arms.

At the very least, such a tattoo would ratchet up the fear factor in any liberal who saw it.

Where would I get it? Well, the ARM of course!


450 posted on 07/18/2005 7:25:50 AM PDT by bourbon (It's the target that decides whether terror wins.)
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To: wardaddy
rotflmRao!

free dixie,sw

451 posted on 07/18/2005 7:29:07 AM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: M. Espinola

Cute graphic and cool pic.
Thanks.;o)

Do you know him?


452 posted on 07/18/2005 7:49:28 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 ("Many Democrats are not weak Americans. But nearly all weak Americans are Democrats." M. Bowers)
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To: wardaddy; WKB; bourbon

Good link!

http://www.defenselink.mil/prhome/poprep2002/chapter2/c2_geography.htm

Thank you!


453 posted on 07/18/2005 7:55:05 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 ("Many Democrats are not weak Americans. But nearly all weak Americans are Democrats." M. Bowers)
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To: bourbon
rotflmRao!

free dixie,sw

454 posted on 07/18/2005 8:22:33 AM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
Here's a link to information on the Connecticut militia and service during the War of 1812 Link

Here's a link to information about the Massachusetts militia: Link

So it seems both states did mobilize their militia for the war effort. Did they serve outside of the state? I don't know. I doubt it since there was almost no land action outside of the abortive invasion of Canada from Detroit and the campaign around Washington in 1814. I know that the New England militia didn't participate in that campaign, but neither did militia from South Carolina, Virginia, North Carolina, or Georgia. The U.S. Navy and privateers operated from New England ports, I do know that.

455 posted on 07/18/2005 9:20:44 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
During the War of 1812, weren't the NE states British-sympathetics, since they were doing most of the trading with Britain?
456 posted on 07/18/2005 9:26:19 AM PDT by eyespysomething ("Old Hippies" re-living their activist youth - the first time nostalgia had a body count attached.)
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To: eyespysomething
During the War of 1812, weren't the NE states British-sympathetics, since they were doing most of the trading with Britain?

The war was unpopular with the New England states, but to call them sympathetic with the British might be a bit strong. The U.S. Navy and a large number of privateers operated openly out of New York and Boston and Newport.

457 posted on 07/18/2005 9:34:22 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
The war was unpopular with the New England states, but to call them sympathetic with the British might be a bit strong.

Well, maybe not British-sympathetic, but they were seriously considering secession, with one of the options being rejoining Britain. If the War of 1812 hadn't ended when it did, they may have tried.

458 posted on 07/18/2005 9:42:01 AM PDT by eyespysomething ("Old Hippies" re-living their activist youth - the first time nostalgia had a body count attached.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

No..I would not. The fact that I am loyal to my state, doesn't mean I have to agree with everything they do.
Your example isn't a very good one.


459 posted on 07/18/2005 9:46:18 AM PDT by TexConfederate1861 (General Robert E. Lee , an AMERICAN example of honor & courage!)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Sure..that is true. But our Confederate Armies were starving, suffering with no medicines, lacking in men,arms, etc. and we STILL held off the Union Army till 1865, who had overwhelming supplies of all the same. Yes, we surrendered, but we weren't whipped. Big difference.


460 posted on 07/18/2005 9:49:07 AM PDT by TexConfederate1861 (General Robert E. Lee , an AMERICAN example of honor & courage!)
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