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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 7
Various News Sources | 7/14/05

Posted on 07/13/2005 11:15:06 PM PDT by TexKat

Mountain Brook High School graduate Natalee Holloway went missing May 30 during a senior trip to Aruba. AP photo


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: aruba; deepakkalpoe; missing; natalee; nataleeholloway; satishkalpoe; vandersloot
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To: xzins

See post 1199


1,201 posted on 07/16/2005 11:25:24 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: GarySpFc

Interesting. The plot thickens.

I wonder what that military school was? And who the son was that attended it?


1,202 posted on 07/16/2005 11:30:10 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: GarySpFc

Incidentally, Twitty has repeated at least twice that if they come out of this without his girl, that he has things of WORLD relevance to reveal. Hmmmmmmm?


1,203 posted on 07/16/2005 11:31:13 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins
I don't know which military school they attended together. I caught that in a passing comment Jugs made one night this week.

BTW, I went though the JW school in Panama and spent a little time in the Southern Command.
1,204 posted on 07/16/2005 11:33:56 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: GarySpFc

My only experience with Panama is the few trng mission we had there, and then Op Just Cause in late 89.

Nice place, imo. Clean it up and it would be Hawaii.


1,205 posted on 07/16/2005 11:36:21 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: stopem; Vn_survivor_67-68; Dark Skies; Dolphy

"The newest information and theory on SM involving Jug's brother Jar Twitty, AmSouth and a scandal, and kidnapping."



I found this on Scared Monkeys in June, copied and saved it back then. I never posted it here thinking it was too far out. Maybe this is the "theory" you've heard:


Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 4:34 pm

"grits wrote:
Ok guys....I still think my slant may be on track... $120 million is a lot of dough ....that the "businessmen" in Panama and Nicarauga would want to recoup...

Natalee's Uncle Tom is head of ALL investment services for AmSouth Bank in Birmingham, but yet he filed a new corporation just for himself in Rhode Island in late 2004 and named it Amsouth Investment Corp... not accusing...just found it as part of new corporate filings...

The scheme at AmSouth for which the bank ended up in court involved Panamanian and Nicaraugan banks...one of the indicted was a Robert Picou - a Panamanian who is said to be in hiding in Nicarauga or Panama.

The scheme further involved a Jackson, Mississippi, securities trader and a Memphis lawyer...and Clinton, Mississippi is a suburb of Jackson...it is where Dave Holloway lives and from which Beth and Jug Twitty (Tom's twin brother) moved to Birmingham...just too many coincidences for me....

If Tom hid money for himself and the Panama and Nicarauga "businessmen" wanted their money back maybe they needed a way to "force" the issue?? makes ya go hmmm.... Maybe the guy on the plane with Natalee that is missing??? They've never given his name? Cause it might come up in connection with the SEC cases??

Or the Twitty brothers could have been innocently involved and testified about the scheme and this could be revenge against them...

I agree that everyone is innocent until proven guilty...and this is one weird case.

Like I said, follow the money..."


1,206 posted on 07/16/2005 11:39:42 AM PDT by toldyou
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To: stopem

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: March 26, 2004


????


1,207 posted on 07/16/2005 11:43:56 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: toldyou

"Natalee's Uncle Tom is head of ALL investment services for AmSouth Bank in Birmingham"

the above is simply false.....I posted the names from the Amsouth Corporate site......the guy who really IS the head of all Amsouth Investment Services is:

Geoffrey A. von Kuhn
Senior Executive Vice President, Wealth Management Group and Chairman of AmSouth Investment Services

http://www.amsouth.com/irrc/


1,208 posted on 07/16/2005 11:51:18 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Does her uncle or other relatives serve in any capacity at AmSouth Bank?


1,210 posted on 07/16/2005 12:05:26 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

"the above is simply false.....I posted the names from the Amsouth Corporate site......the guy who really IS the head of all Amsouth Investment Services is:"

I never said it was fact. I said it was someone else's theory. If you read my post today, and my reasons for never posting it back in June, you would have seen that I said I didn't post it because it was too far out. In fact, I never even took the time to see who was head of AmSouth because I really don't care. I simply posted it today to show "stopem" where the rumor could have started!


1,211 posted on 07/16/2005 12:07:31 PM PDT by toldyou
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To: GarySpFc

I noticed a real brotherhood of spec ops types between Brits, Aussies, Americans, etc. on some training missions. I wouldn't be surprised to see that camraderie extended to the spec ops of other nations....esp. former eastern bloc nations.

Congratulations on your wife. Husbandmen tend their gardens so that they will fully flower, fully grow, fully bear.


1,212 posted on 07/16/2005 12:08:33 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: toldyou
I remember reading that story at SM and tried to find some info about it via Google.

All Google coughed up was a story about a Panamanian man, one Robert Picou, who scammed Mississippi investors out of $2.5 million (with the help of a securities dealer) by agreeing to deliver, through his new business venture, a large quantity of blue crab.

Once he received the cash, he and his partner divvied it up and he split for Panama or Nicaragua.

I think he and his partner are now in jail.

I think that if Amsouth or Amsouth Investment Services were guilty of involvement in a $120 million scam, it would be all over the news. Also, Tom Twitty is the President of Amsouth Investment Services, not its owner. And I think it was registered in Rhode Island for tax purposes, not to conduct business in Rhode Island.

See my post #1,177 for some more info re: this matter.

1,213 posted on 07/16/2005 12:14:23 PM PDT by Dark Skies (All Muslims aren't evil...just the real ones.)
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toldyou....I did read it and did see that, LOL....I should have said that the ortg poster was wrong, sorry.

xzins....yes, it seems that it was tom twitty who filed the articles of incorporation for Amsouth to do business in RI, but what he in Amsouth Corp is unknown to me.....he may work in the legal dept of the parent org.....I don't think the finance types would be sent to RI to tackle the legal/regulatory issues involved in establishing an insurance/investment licensein another state, but I could be wrong aboutit.


1,214 posted on 07/16/2005 12:22:47 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

I think von Kuhn is the chairman of AIS and Tom Twitty is its president (or was, at least at time of registration). Registry in R.I. is, I imagine, because of ease of registration or for tax purposes.


1,215 posted on 07/16/2005 12:30:32 PM PDT by Dark Skies (All Muslims aren't evil...just the real ones.)
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To: toldyou

Thanks, that is exactly what I remember reading. Like a lot of theories, it has some facts mixed in with a lot of fiction which you were right to originally detect.

I find so much of this case to be beyond reasonable that even many of the theories that seem far out deserve at least the thought process to dismiss.


1,216 posted on 07/16/2005 12:32:11 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: Dark Skies

ID# 143240
AmSouth Investment Services, Inc.
Purpose: INVESTMENT AND INSURANCE SALES
General Information
Status: AC
Charter: FBC FOREIGN BUSINESS CORPORATION
Chapter: TITLE: 7-1.1
888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888

whoops! looky here:

CHAPTER 7-1.1
Business Corporations [Repealed effective July 1, 2005.]
Index Of Sections
§ 7-1.1-1 Short title. [Repealed effective July 1, 2005.].


§ 7-1.1-2 Definitions. [Repealed effective July 1, 2005.].


§ 7-1.1-3 Purposes. [Repealed effective July 1, 2005.].


§ 7-1.1-4 General powers. [Repealed effective July 1, 2005.].


§ 7-1.1-4.1 Indemnification. [Repealed effective July 1, 2005.].

http://www.rilin.state.ri.us/Statutes/TITLE7/7-1.1/INDEX.HTM

Bizzarre, ain't it?


1,217 posted on 07/16/2005 12:38:19 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Dark Skies

Isn't" von Kuhn" a Dutch name?


1,218 posted on 07/16/2005 12:40:48 PM PDT by MAWG (Diversity is where everyone looks different but thinks the same way.)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68; toldyou; Dark Skies
Come on, folks!

This kidnapping theory is waaayyy out there in left field.

Natalee's a Holloway....NOT a Twitty.

Nobody involved w/the oil company would have known NH was going to Aruba or who she was.

And even if they did, they sure wouldn't have chosen the likes of joran to pull off a kidnapping & ALL ROADS LEAD STRAIGHT TO JORAN.

This case centers on no one but joran & the Kalpoes. Too many eyewitnesses saw them w/NH last.

There's no conspiracy here. Plain & simple.

1,219 posted on 07/16/2005 12:43:53 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

speaking of "purpose", this was not repealed when it registered....just s snip of this section:

CHAPTER 7-1.1
Business Corporations [Repealed effective July 1, 2005.]
SECTION 7-1.1-7.1


§ 7-1.1-7.1 Fictitious business name. [Repealed effective July 1, 2005.]. – (a) Any corporation organized and existing under the laws of any state or territory of the United States may transact business in this state under a fictitious name, provided that it files a fictitious business name statement in accordance with this section prior to the time it commences to transact the business under the fictitious name.

remainder here:

http://www.rilin.state.ri.us/Statutes/TITLE7/7-1.1/7-1.1-7.1.HTM


1,220 posted on 07/16/2005 12:45:11 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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