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Scientists Detail Study of Kennewick Man
Yahoo! News ^ | 07/11/2005 | Melanthia Mitchell

Posted on 07/11/2005 11:48:33 AM PDT by jazzo

SEATTLE - Cloistered around padded tables, scientists from around the country have been peering through microscopes and measuring bone fragments trying to unearth the history of an ancient skeleton found along the Columbia River.

Researchers on Sunday offered details of their first comprehensive study of the 9,000-year-old Kennewick Man, one of the oldest and most complete skeletons ever found in North America.

The team of anthropologists, geochemists and data analysts have been busy assembling the skeleton's more than 300 bones and bone fragments at the University of Washington's Burke Museum of Natural History and Culture, where the remains have been since 1998.

"This individual's biography is written in his bones," said Dr. Hugh Berryman, a forensic anthropologist from Middle Tennessee State University. "This is a window into the past."

Scientists have been cataloguing some previously unidentified pieces and reevaluating others. They've also been measuring remains, examining cracks and breaks in the bones and studying various discoloration in an attempt to put Kennewick Man's past together.

Likening it to a Rembrandt, Berryman said scientists early on knew the skeleton had much to offer because of its age and completeness.

"I'm very interested in that skull," Berryman said as he pointed to ice-blue translucent plastic models of a skull and pelvis, sitting atop a boardroom table at the University Towers hotel near the university.

"There appears to be some European-type facial features." That, he said, could suggest there were other migrations of people other than those strictly out of Asia.

Certain skull measurements, including the shorter face and less width across the cheekbones, don't match that traditionally associated with Native American characteristics, said Dr. Douglas W. Owsley, a forensic anthropologist with the National Museum of Natural History at the Smithsonian Institution in Washington, D.C.

Those observations have been part of the nine-year legal battle between researchers and Northwest Indian tribes.

After the skeleton was found by two college students along the banks of the Columbia in 1996, the Umatilla, Yakama, Nez Perce and Colville tribes wanted the bones reburied without scientific study. They claimed they were entitled to the bones under the Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act.

The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers owned the land where the remains were found and was set to relinquish the bones. But scientists sued for a chance to study the remains.

Last year a three-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, agreeing with an earlier decision by a federal judge in Portland, Ore., ruled there was no link between the skeleton and the tribes.

The taphonomic, or forensic, study scientists will perform during their 10-day examination will help determine the effects that weather and animals had on Kennewick Man's remains after death. Ultimately, they'll focus on identifying his origins, and how he lived and died.

Models of the skull and pelvis, which has a projectile — perhaps a spearhead — embedded in a hip, will be used to construct permanent cast to be used for additional research and to minimize impact to the actual skeleton.

Later, researchers will be analyzing samples taken from fragments of the leg during government studies in 1999 and 2000.

No public viewing of the remains is yet planned by the Army Corps.


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KEYWORDS: godsgravesglyphs; history; kennewick; kennewickman
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1 posted on 07/11/2005 11:48:34 AM PDT by jazzo
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Those observations have been part of the nine-year legal battle between researchers and Northwest Indian tribes.

I smell casino competition!

2 posted on 07/11/2005 11:51:05 AM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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It'll be interesting to see how the PC crowd handles Kennewick Man, caucasian as he apparently was. I'm betting on the whole thing getting buried. Can't upset the applecart on the racial spoils system at this late date, now can we?


3 posted on 07/11/2005 11:59:46 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: Hank Rearden

Nope, indians wanted to dump the body. Notice in the text they believe him to be of european decent and over 9,000 years old making the "white man" here long before the indians which would take away the money the fed gov gives in indians annually.


4 posted on 07/11/2005 11:59:49 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: edcoil
Right; I knew all that. The Indians are scared to death that some other race preceded them into the Americas, and that the truth will be known shortly.

Casino rights for Euro-Americans!

5 posted on 07/11/2005 12:03:12 PM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: edcoil
With the present stock of Indians descended primarily from folks who came but 6,000 or so years ago, the skeleton of a fellow who was here 9,000 years ago should be of no cultural interest to them.

That's what the judge said, more or less.

Still, 9,000 years ago you still had European type people in many parts of Asia, as, of course, you do today.

6 posted on 07/11/2005 12:05:26 PM PDT by muawiyah (/sarcasm and invective)
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To: jazzo

So, now it looks like the "Native Americans" may have been white folks who were violently disposessed from their land by marauding Asian hordes.


7 posted on 07/11/2005 12:06:29 PM PDT by Jerrbear
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To: Hank Rearden

Every group pick there date in history then justifies their position regardless of what its history is before that or what else was going on in the world.

Look at Mexico saying texas and california are part of mexico, look that muslims saying spain is there's.

Sadly we have politicans that listen to them.


8 posted on 07/11/2005 12:06:59 PM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: edcoil

A question for you ~ since the US government never signed a treaty with Kennwick Man's nation, but did with many of the Indian tribes, why would the US government's obligation to adhere to treaties evaporate?


9 posted on 07/11/2005 12:08:32 PM PDT by muawiyah (/sarcasm and invective)
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To: jazzo
It's about time. Doug Owsley is just about the best forensic anthropologist we have. If he believes the skeleton to be Caucasian then you can be sure it is. What he will be ALLOWED to say and keep his job at the Smithsonian is another matter.
10 posted on 07/11/2005 12:14:19 PM PDT by Andy'smom
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To: jazzo

Somebody, somewhere must be filing a reparations claim over this.


11 posted on 07/11/2005 12:19:48 PM PDT by Moosilauke
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To: muawiyah
"..the US government never signed a treaty with Kennwick Man's nation, but did with many of the Indian tribes.."

Valid point, no tribe would lose the warm fuzzy right to operate outside the laws of the land - their status as "nations" would remain.

What they would lose is their claim to being "first americans" with supposed rights to the continent.

It might also have some similar impact on La Ratza - at least north of wherever the Aztecs ceased killing off the people who came before them. ompetition.

12 posted on 07/11/2005 12:20:18 PM PDT by norton (build a wall and post the rules at the gate)
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To: muawiyah

I would say you need to ask Andrew Jackson (a democrat) since I assume you are discussing the trail of tears also, you need to discuss if those treaties were constitutional as was never done.

The issue is should the government take someone and give to someone else based on un-truths and political corectness.


13 posted on 07/11/2005 12:25:39 PM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: muawiyah

You are arguing on the basis of scientific evidence. The Indian tribes in question don't care about science. They have oral traditions that their tribes have always been where they are now. It's basically a kind of religious belief on their part, so it's a question of science vs. religion, like in the Scopes trial. The same sort of people who ridicule fundamentalists for rejecting scientific theory because of the Bible have no problem with Indians' religious beliefs overruling science.


14 posted on 07/11/2005 12:40:45 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: jazzo
Meanwhile, our own favorite RINO, John McCain, is trying to make sure scientists are prevented from studying any further Kennewick men.
15 posted on 07/11/2005 12:51:38 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: RegulatorCountry

"It'll be interesting to see how the PC crowd handles Kennewick Man, caucasian as he apparently was."

My understanding is that DNA analysis showed that Kenny was not closely related to Indians or Caucasians. He belonged to a distinct group that is no longer in existance (probably wiped out by the peace-loving redskins). He may have looked like a white guy, but that was coincidental.


16 posted on 07/11/2005 12:55:40 PM PDT by BadAndy (Specializing in unnecessarily harsh comments.)
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To: jazzo
Blam sent me to a website which has an exceptionally well do explanation of some of the possibilities of the distribution of modern man. Included is an explanation for how "Caucasion" peoples might have journeyed via Asia to America about 12,000 years ago. It shows a multiple entry with people from the Borneo / Southeast Asian area passing into America 25,000 years ago before the last Global Maximum Ice Age and with the middle Asian ancestors of Europeans entering America Just following the Ice Age. It can be found at:

http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/journey/

17 posted on 07/11/2005 12:59:58 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: jazzo
Just because Kennewick Man and the Ainu have features similar to Europeans, it doesn't mean that they are genetically European. In fact, the Ainu are genetically quite Asian even though they superficially look pretty European. Given that mitochondrial DNA markers that are likely European have been found in American Indians, it's likely that there was some sort of European genetic contribution but Kennewick Man is not necessarily it.
18 posted on 07/11/2005 1:19:39 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: BadAndy
"He may have looked like a white guy, but that was coincidental."

There is nothing "coincidental" about genetics. Not only can it be determined if he was Causasian through genetic testing (if genetic material exists), but it can also be determined if he was Caucasian from an analysis of the remains.

19 posted on 07/11/2005 1:51:22 PM PDT by Reactionary
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To: Reactionary

"There is nothing "coincidental" about genetics. Not only can it be determined if he was Causasian through genetic testing (if genetic material exists), but it can also be determined if he was Caucasian from an analysis of the remains."

Did you even read my post? Genetic analysis was done and showed he was not closely related to any existing race.


20 posted on 07/11/2005 2:20:04 PM PDT by BadAndy (Specializing in unnecessarily harsh comments.)
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