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21 arrested as police find suspect device(Birmingham UK)
Birmingham(UK) Post ^ | 7/11/05 | Campbell Docherty and Neil Connor

Posted on 07/11/2005 4:36:53 AM PDT by Dane

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Some news about Saturday's evacuation and sweep of central Birmingham(UK).
1 posted on 07/11/2005 4:36:53 AM PDT by Dane
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To: Dane

I live and work in the centre of Birmingham and this is the first I've heard of this incident. I need to get out more...

To make up for being such a poor correspondent: in other news, I saw a bomb disposal truck driving fast with sirens west along Hagley Road this morning, with motorbike escort, about 9.55am GMT. There may be some more news tomorrow.


2 posted on 07/11/2005 4:44:05 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: Dane

I fear for England this is going to be a case of too little too late.

They have allowed too many radicals into England, now it is time for them to deport in mass numbers or bow to the will of Allah.

The preps are still on the loose and able to strike again.

Appears that the radicals are starting to understand how stupid it is to have your most loyal followers kill themselves in a one time attack.

GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS.


3 posted on 07/11/2005 4:46:15 AM PDT by stockpirate (We can fight them in Iraq! Or we can fight them outback! Which do you prefer?)
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To: agere_contra
Breaking News: Birmingham(England) City Centre being Evacuated
4 posted on 07/11/2005 4:48:46 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dane
Now the muzzies living in England can make thousands of
feigns...resulting in knee jerk reactions by the authorities

It will cost them millions yet not one real terrorist gets
caught..

The passive aggressive ones use the terror events to impede
business, inconvenience and help to keep the spirit of fear
alive...wearing down moral..

It's a great strategy...passive aggressive war...hide behind
the protection of your host nation...hide behind children..
etc..

The people simply do not have the guts to clear them out from their/our midsts..and so the games will continue..

imo
5 posted on 07/11/2005 4:48:54 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Does the Red Crescent have falafel dollies?)
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To: stockpirate
The preps are still on the loose and able to strike again.

The real question is this:....How do you deal with people who embrace a 15th century tent culture, contribute nothing of value to society, kill innocent non-Muslims with impunity on a world wide basis, and provide no centralized targets of value for military retribution?

We all despise what these these people represent....But how to break them from the precepts of belief described in their horrifying cult.

6 posted on 07/11/2005 4:57:05 AM PDT by squirt-gun
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To: stockpirate
Appears that the radicals are starting to understand how stupid it is to have your most loyal followers kill themselves in a one time attack.

It's amazing how devils can warp a man's thinking...That's why it's so important always to seek Truth.

7 posted on 07/11/2005 4:58:02 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Words Mean Things...)
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To: squirt-gun

It's not a 15th century culture. It's an 8th century culture.


8 posted on 07/11/2005 5:01:17 AM PDT by livius
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To: Dane

It's hard to tell how much of this is genuine Islamic terrorism, and how much is just copycat pretenders. After 911, there were a lot of false alarms. The building I work in was evacuated several times due to false bomb threats. I suspect that Britain is dealing with some of that, as well.


9 posted on 07/11/2005 5:13:47 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: squirt-gun

You be cold blooded about it.

You eliminate them.

Anybody espousing support or sympathy for any terrorist must be jailed.

Anybody espousing terrorism must be killed.

President Bush is right (You're either with us or with the terrorists) but he hasn't carried out the program sufficiently far yet.


10 posted on 07/11/2005 5:47:54 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: squirt-gun

Jihad is WWIII

We have to treat it as such, and stop allowing subversives.


11 posted on 07/11/2005 5:49:12 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: squirt-gun
"and provide no centralized targets of value for military retribution?"

there's always Mecca

12 posted on 07/11/2005 5:58:02 AM PDT by MomwithHope
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To: AFPhys
I agree with your posts to me....But they don't address the problem which is how our military responds...beyond what they are doing now

In WWII it was simple...you begin by carpet bombing their cities, invade their countries, destroy their all so obvious armies and navies.

Where do you suggest we start with Muslims? Do you advocate atomic weapon drops on all Muslim cities?

13 posted on 07/11/2005 6:35:33 AM PDT by squirt-gun
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To: MomwithHope

pls see 13...


14 posted on 07/11/2005 6:37:42 AM PDT by squirt-gun
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To: AFPhys
With your kind permission, AFP:

We have to treat it as such, and stop allowing subversives.

We have to treat it as such, and start executing subversives.

15 posted on 07/11/2005 6:40:01 AM PDT by MarineDad (Whenever mosques and JDAM's meet, civilization benefits.)
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To: squirt-gun

No. Our military actions are fine and progressing properly.

Our diplomatic actions are doing fine and progressing seemingly well, except for our "allies" like France, etc.

The big problem we have is dealing with our internal subversives. We have to start smashing the internal propaganda machine that is giving aid and legitimacy to the terrorist movements.


16 posted on 07/11/2005 6:40:56 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: AFPhys

Liberate Londonistan!


17 posted on 07/11/2005 7:10:20 AM PDT by battlegearboat
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To: Dane
Hizb ut-Tarhir is banned in Germany and some other countries

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/3182271.stm
Last updated Wednesday, 27 August, 2003
An influential British Muslim has told Newsnight that unless action is taken against an extreme Muslim group operating in the United Kingdom then we could soon be experiencing terrorist attacks along the lines of those in Baghdad and Jerusalem.

Hizb Ut Tahrir or HT is an Islamic splinter group, which is banned in many countries around the world. It operates freely in Britain.

But Newsnight has discovered that its website promotes racism and anti-Semitic hatred, calls suicide bombers martyrs, and urges Muslims to kill Jewish people.

Dr. Imran Waheed, media representative of Hizb ut-Tarhir in Great Britain, lives in Birmingham.

Germany imposes ban on Hizb ut-Tahrir January 15, 2003,

Describing the group as secretive, Schily said it has been active in Germany distributing leaflets with anti-Semitic messages at mosques, Islamic centers and universities. It also has a German-language magazine and Web site, delivering the same propaganda. [snip]

Hizb ut-Tahrir was formed in Jordan in 1953 by Taqi Eddin al-Nabahani, a Palestinian who died in unclear circumstances in the Palestinian territories in 1978. Egyptian authorities outlawed the group in 1974 after blaming it for an attempted coup.

The current leader is the Palestinian Abdul-Kaddim Zalloum, whose whereabouts are unknown. Schily said he believes the group is based in London but was not certain.


18 posted on 07/11/2005 7:33:53 AM PDT by syriacus (Did one of Michael's girlfriends have a key to Terri's apartment?)
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To: Dane
...suspect package, which was discovered to be a black box containing a stopwatch and wires.

Just a simple egg timer to make sure everything is done according to Allah.

19 posted on 07/11/2005 8:18:43 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: AFPhys
"Jihad is WWIII"

I think the cold war was WWIII and this is now no. 4.
20 posted on 07/11/2005 8:22:22 AM PDT by Blind Eye Jones
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