Posted on 07/09/2005 12:18:19 PM PDT by Crackingham
Jim Sullivan stood outside the Rhea County Courthouse and recalled the carnival-like atmosphere during the Scopes Monkey Trial in 1925, when the teaching of evolution was put on trial.
"They had fights on all these corners and people all over the place," said Sullivan, 85, who remembers seeing Bible-toting preachers and monkeys on leashes.
As the town prepares for its annual re-enactment of the trial here eight decades later, debate over teaching evolution lives on.
Eugenie Scott, director of the National Center for Science Education, said it is increasingly difficult to teach American students the basics of evolution.
"We have been facing more anti-evolution activity in the last six months than we have ever faced in a comparable period before," Scott said Friday.
In Kansas, the state school board could change science standards to include criticism of evolution. In Cobb County, Ga., labels describing evolution as a "theory, not a fact" were required in some textbooks before a court overturned the order.
Scott said 31 states this year have had "some kind of incident, such as efforts to get creationism taught or limit teaching of evolution."
I am referring to those who wish to inject a religious curriculum into government schools.
I don't want a theocracy - I just want a moral society. Without our God-fearing founding fathers their wouldn't be a USA - but you could have some 4th rate middle eastern Sharia government.
but I have to admit I find the most rabid fanatics--the most hateful ones--are on the secularist side
Too late, atheistic humanism is already the state sponsored religion.
I have no problem of our schools talking about evolution as a theory, but they should also discus creation just as seriously.
re: image in #38.
Looks like somebody doesn't like to have their images linked..... It reads: "I am a bandwidth thief"
;-(
regards,
What I said. Reading problems - or just knee-JERK?
Actually, those last two were discussed in my Social Studies classes back in the early 80's. Never heard much about the Christians or Jews though.
But that's my whole point. How YOU see it doesn't mean how I see it is wrong. Where I live, I have never run across a rabid anti-evolutionist--not one. I have run into wackjob secularists all the time.
So your point has zero to do with mine. You can laugh all you want, but I do kinda have more of a handle on my personal experience. And your note that YOU see both ends shows you understood I was expressing my personal view.
To say "there are the same number of kooks on both sides" is such a non sequitur that it is useless to even type it out. It's a nothing statistic. I live in an area of rabid lefties, and have never come upon one who is as rabid as a secularist. And I'm an agnostic.
You can laugh all you want, but I kinda know more about my own experience than you do. Are we clear now?
The Framers of our founding documents set up our government according to the principles of the Biblical Worldview to ensure that that can never happen.
They weren't taught as science? Well, it was awhile back.
I have no problem teaching about the various religions throughout the world in Social Studies classes. Christianity and Judaism should be a part of that. If they try to get into too much detail, the various religious sects would start complaining about the schools teaching religion to their children, and rightly so. That is the right of the parents, not the government. (That could be why Christianity and Judaism may be avoided in Social Studies classes, by the way).
It is when they try to replace science with religion in Science classes in public schools that I want it stopped. There is a proper place for everything, and religion isn't science.
I didnt realize I was laughing.
Here's a better place for "young earth" creationists to start if they're interested in learning that the origin of their belief is straight out of 7th-day Adventism:
The Creationists by Ronald L. Numbers
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14 of 22 people found the following review helpful:
Reviewer: A reader
Ronald L. Numbers has done a great service to those of us who long to see the death of young-earth creationism. By tracing the history of the movement, he has shown that young-earth creationism arose out of the 7th Day Adventist church, not out of orthodox Christianity. (The fact that YEC leader Henry Morris endorsed this book should silence any canard from YECs that Augustine, Luther, or Calvin endorsed their views.)
YEC is not accepted by any major evangelical college or institution. This fact alone should end the mis-association of young earthism with "evangelical Christianity" that is promoted by the media and anti-Christian writers.
Young-earthism can't be defeated by science, since its adherents reject science out of hand.
It must be slain by the Bible and sound theology.
The best way to start YEC's demise is to broadcast as broadly as possible the TRUE history of YEC - that is a 7th Day Adventist invention that fobbed off on orthodox Christian churches during a time of cultural confusion and decline, and that it displaced the orthodox Christian belief in a "day-age" interpretation of Genesis.
Another point is that YEC is akin to "open theism" in its interpretation of the Bible, proving the sheer ludicrousness of an ultra-literal hermenuetic.
While commentators fume about the continued resilience of creationism, the truth is that Intelligent Design and a resurgent Old Earthism have drastically weakened YEC's support in its own base.
I think that we are nearing the time when a direct, theologically-informed assault on the ICR and other creationist bodies by Bible-believing Christians will break the back of young-earth creationism and restore Old Earthism to its proper standing. Numbers has given us a good place to start.... [click above link to read more]
Yup. The dirty secret of the socialists who push their social-darwinisim (as a subset of their necessary prerequisite dogmatic belief in biological darwinism) is that in fact they are racist bigots.
The SHeeple must never know.
Anyway, it was the famous Pogo "We have met the enemy and he is us" cartoon.
In direct violation of the Constitution - (which they swore on the Bible that they would uphold) - these UNconstitutional "findings" you mentioned are all examples of what happens when 5 lawyers in black robes get free rein to impose their subjective whims and/or consciences on the rest of us.
"We the people" must restore democracy by getting judicial activists out of the court system and off the SC bench. We must insist that only objective jurists who will interpret the Constitution according to its origional intent are fit to be on the SC.
I didn't say any should be excluded, I was making the point that evolution is only a theory, but so many folks think it should not only be taught, but it should be taught as a rock-hard fact and that no other theory should be discussed in a classroom.
Why did you see the word "creation" in my post and assume i was specifying a specific religion? I would guess that the core of the problem is that it requires a God as the Creator and science cannot prove or disprove thi, so folks want to be the most advanced thing going - if they don't like it, it can't be true. The ironic thing is that they can't prove their pet theory either, but they don't stop pushing it...
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