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Why Women Must Change Too if we are to Rescue Marriage
The Financial Times ^ | July 5, 2005 | Richard Tomkins

Posted on 07/05/2005 5:31:57 AM PDT by Bon mots

Is marriage, as a social institution, doomed? As recently as 50 years ago, it was the norm for people to get married and have children. But now, at least in the west, we are seeing record numbers of people divorcing, leaving marriage until later in life or not getting married at all. In Britain, I was amazed to learn the other day, the proportion of children born outside marriage has shot up from 9 per cent to 42 per cent since 1976. In France, the proportion is 44 per cent, in Sweden, it is 56 per cent and even in the US, with its religious emphasis on family values, it is 35 per cent.

I suppose we must blame the rise of selfish individualism. People are a lot less willing to sacrifice their independent lifestyle and become part of a couple or family unit than they once were. And if they do marry, the importance they place on their right to a happy life leaves them disinclined to stick around for long once the initial euphoria has worn off.

I wonder, though, if there is another possible explanation: that, frankly, a lot of women do not like men very much, and vice versa? And that, given the choice, a lot of women and men would prefer an adequate supply of casual nookie to a lifelong relationship with a member of the opposite sex?

Choice, after all, is a very recent phenomenon. For most of human history, men and women married not because they particularly liked one another but out of practical necessity: men needed women to cook and clean for them while women needed men to bring home the bacon. It is only in very recent times that women have won legal independence and access to economic self-sufficiency - and only recently, too, that men have been liberated from dependency on women by ready meals and take-away food, automatic washing machines and domestic cleaning services.

During the times of mutual dependency, women were economically, legally and politically subservient to men. This had a number of repercussions. One was that, lacking control over their own lives, women could justifiably hold their husbands responsible for everything, resulting in what men around the world will recognise as the first law of matrimony: "It's all your fault." Second, while men ruled the world, women ruled within the home - often firmly, resulting in the age-old image of the nagging wife and hen-pecked husband. And third, understandably resenting their subjugation outside the home, women took pleasure in characterising their oppressors as selfish, insensitive, lazy, lying, feckless, incompetent scumbags.

Fair enough. But in the last 30 years, relations between men and women have undergone a greater change than at any time in human history. Women have not reached full equality yet, but they are getting close. And now the economic necessity for getting hitched has died out, marriage is on the rocks.

What can be done to save it? My interest in this was provoked by an article I read online last week by Stephanie Coontz, an author of books on American family life. In The Chronicle of Higher Education, she said an important principle was that "husbands have to respond positively to their wives' request for change" - for example, addressing the anomaly that women tend to do the larger share of the housework.

So, husbands have to change. Does this sound familiar? Of course it does, because it is another repetition of the first law of matrimony: "It's all your fault."

I could quibble with Ms Coontz's worries about the uneven split in the male/female workload. In the US, according to the latest time-use survey from the bureau of labour statistics, employed women spend on average an hour a day more than employed men on housework and childcare; but employed men spend an hour a day longer doing paid work. While this may be an imperfect arrangement, it hardly seems a glaring injustice.

But my point is this. Yes, men must change; indeed, they are changing, which is why we hear so much about new men and metrosexuals and divorced fathers fighting for custody of their children. But are women so perfect, or so sanctified by thousands of years of oppression, that they cannot be asked to change even the tiniest bit, too?

If economic necessity is not going to bring and keep men and women together in marriage, then we are going to have to rely on mutual affection and respect. And there is not going to be much of that about as long as women - assisted by television sitcoms and media portrayals in general - carry on stereotyping men as selfish, insensitive, lazy, lying, feckless, incompetent scumbags, even if some of them are.

So, my timorous suggestion is that it is time for women to shrug off the legacy of oppression and consider changing their approach to men and marriage. First, with power comes responsibility, which means it is now all women's fault as much as men's and, hence, the end of the blame and complain game. Second, if women are to share power in the world, men must share power in the home, which means that they get an equal say in important decisions about soft furnishings.

Most of all, it is time for the negative stereotyping to go. I know women will say: "But it's true!" If so, then marriage certainly is doomed.

But whose fault is that? If you treat all men as selfish, insensitive, lazy, lying, feckless, incompetent scumbags, you should not be surprised if that is what they turn out to be.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: feminism; genderwars; marriage; metrosexual; metrosexuals; sensitive; sissies; snag; swishy; women
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To: brownsfan
While Woman outnumber men in college, women are very much outnumbered in scientific fields. I go to the University of Illinois, and the females I know are studying things like sociology, art, English, and many other liberal arts subjects. These are fine topics, and challenging but try finding a job that uses what you learned in college.

The reality is not everyone should go to college. Not everyone can be management. And in many of the fields that you need a degree to find a job women aren't enrolling in.

Plus many women take a decade off of work when they are 25-35 to at least start a family. That time period is when male workers and females who don't leave to start a family, make huge career advancements.

I don't foresee a era when men are out earned by females for these reasons.
261 posted on 07/05/2005 9:15:29 AM PDT by RHINO369
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To: kharaku
True.

Out of curiosity, are you a music producer? I got the impression with your link.
262 posted on 07/05/2005 9:15:43 AM PDT by DarkSavant (I touch myself at thoughts of flames)
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To: music is math
There is no second miriam webster entry it was describing some thing different to your position that is all
263 posted on 07/05/2005 9:15:45 AM PDT by Kelly_2000 (Because they stand on a wall and say nothing is going to hurt you tonight. Not on my watch)
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To: Empire_of_Liberty
"O.K. Now you've got me interested. Just what is this "moderate" feminism"

I think mainstream is a better word, feminism has become victim of severe stereotyping. As a feminist I am a former model, I make my husbands dinners. I wear makeup and celebrate my femininity. I believe in old fashioned family values and go to church.

This flies in the face of the current stereotype of a feminist. I want equality, i don't want to change men or myself that is all.

264 posted on 07/05/2005 9:18:29 AM PDT by Kelly_2000 (Because they stand on a wall and say nothing is going to hurt you tonight. Not on my watch)
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To: Bon mots
Mother Nature will penalize the human genome for any changes we try to make quickly in what was a million year process.


BUMP

265 posted on 07/05/2005 9:18:36 AM PDT by tm22721
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To: Kelly_2000

Eh? I suggest you read the page more closely. There are two entries there, 1: and 2:.


266 posted on 07/05/2005 9:19:21 AM PDT by music is math
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To: Kelly_2000

Could the fact that there are agencies putting money into re-writing text books have something to do with that? BTW if you're going to insist on a literal text book defintion you should use the Oxford, rather than Websters. I doubt however that during World War II Webster's had a disenting view of the Nazi's either.


267 posted on 07/05/2005 9:20:00 AM PDT by kharaku (G3 (http://www.cobolsoundsystem.com/mp3s/unreleased/evewasanape.mp3))
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
I think you should watch how you pass judgment on others. I think that because I am enlightened enough to know that I cannot make time that a child needs I am being totally unselfish by not having one.

The selfish people are the ones that have children to satisfy society's notion that they should; and then pass the child off for nannies etc. to raise. The child feels unloved and knows that it is unwanted. That is the worst thing you can do to a child. They pick up every undertone of resentment every time a parent cannot do what they really want to be doing!

268 posted on 07/05/2005 9:20:39 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (People too weak to follow their own dreams, will always find a way to discourage yours.)
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To: DarkSavant

I do produce music, and write music, I am not in the music industry per se however. (I am BMI affliated however)


269 posted on 07/05/2005 9:21:20 AM PDT by kharaku (G3 (http://www.cobolsoundsystem.com/mp3s/unreleased/evewasanape.mp3))
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick
I have a husband ...

Now wait a minute ... I thought you had something going with Laz!

270 posted on 07/05/2005 9:21:20 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("I am saying that the government's complicity is dishonest and disingenuous." ~NCSteve)
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To: Kelly_2000
This flies in the face of the current stereotype of a feminist. I want equality, i don't want to change men or myself that is all.

Ah, and therein lies the rub. The world has changed underneath you, and most of you, being at least twice my age, aren't able to see it.

271 posted on 07/05/2005 9:22:04 AM PDT by music is math
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To: music is math
"Eh? I suggest you read the page more closely. There are two entries there, 1: and 2:.,p> And again I point out the fact that neither entry implies or states that feminism equates to role reversal. In fact it sates the opposite
272 posted on 07/05/2005 9:22:24 AM PDT by Kelly_2000 (Because they stand on a wall and say nothing is going to hurt you tonight. Not on my watch)
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To: Tax-chick
Laz is a Sex God and I STAND BY THAT STATEMENT!!
273 posted on 07/05/2005 9:23:04 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (People too weak to follow their own dreams, will always find a way to discourage yours.)
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To: kharaku
"Could the fact that there are agencies putting money into re-writing text books have something to do with that?"

Could be , I wouldn't disagree with that either

274 posted on 07/05/2005 9:23:32 AM PDT by Kelly_2000 (Because they stand on a wall and say nothing is going to hurt you tonight. Not on my watch)
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To: Kelly_2000
Nor should it need to. The Nazi's wanted to produce a single Aryn race, eliminating Jews was implicit in that directive but need not be stated explicitly.
275 posted on 07/05/2005 9:24:48 AM PDT by kharaku (G3 (http://www.cobolsoundsystem.com/mp3s/unreleased/evewasanape.mp3))
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To: music is math
"Ah, and therein lies the rub. The world has changed underneath you, and most of you, being at least twice my age, aren't able to see it."

I am 28 years old are you 14 then?

276 posted on 07/05/2005 9:25:00 AM PDT by Kelly_2000 (Because they stand on a wall and say nothing is going to hurt you tonight. Not on my watch)
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To: Kelly_2000
And again I point out the fact that neither entry implies or states that feminism equates to role reversal.

Nothing in the entries specifically defines feminism as role reversal; the second definition does however implicitly allow it. Like I said, the world has changed underneath you and taken the language with it. You're stuck in the past; being younger than nearly everyone else here, I'm not.

277 posted on 07/05/2005 9:25:22 AM PDT by music is math
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To: music is math
"Nothing in the entries specifically defines feminism as role reversal; the second definition does however implicitly allow it."

No it does not it mentions nothing about role reversal, in fact it mentions equality quite precisely and quite deliberately

278 posted on 07/05/2005 9:27:59 AM PDT by Kelly_2000 (Because they stand on a wall and say nothing is going to hurt you tonight. Not on my watch)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

No ambiguity there!


279 posted on 07/05/2005 9:28:36 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("I am saying that the government's complicity is dishonest and disingenuous." ~NCSteve)
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To: Bon mots

do you have the citation for that statistic? Can you get it?


280 posted on 07/05/2005 9:29:15 AM PDT by Rhadaghast (Yeshua HaMashiach Tzidkaynu)
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