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Why Women Must Change Too if we are to Rescue Marriage
The Financial Times ^ | July 5, 2005 | Richard Tomkins

Posted on 07/05/2005 5:31:57 AM PDT by Bon mots

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More backlash (albeit limp-wristed) against the "War on Males" sponsored and egged-on by feminists.
1 posted on 07/05/2005 5:31:58 AM PDT by Bon mots
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bttt


2 posted on 07/05/2005 5:32:47 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("I am saying that the government's complicity is dishonest and disingenuous." ~NCSteve)
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The author is whining.


4 posted on 07/05/2005 5:38:25 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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The reason marriage is waning is the women's movement. The traditional family structure is just not compatible with a society in which every woman works in the market place.


5 posted on 07/05/2005 5:39:03 AM PDT by Brilliant
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The author is whining.

I know. I described him as limp-wristed. But the theme is interesting. When liberal writers start to get the point, the message must be getting out there.

6 posted on 07/05/2005 5:39:59 AM PDT by Bon mots
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The basic, simple, biological reality is that women need to be having children when they're 18 - 25 and not when they're 30-45, and they need to be able to do that without having to marry men who are ten years older than they are. If our society is going to survive, that has to become possible again. What we're doing now clearly does not work.


7 posted on 07/05/2005 5:40:55 AM PDT by tahotdog
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Mulims had it figured out long ago. Marry, marry, marry, and have kids lots of them, have even four wives if you can, and this way they can over populate the world, and this is exactly what they are doing. Other countries have been told by their own governments that the world is getting over populated, and so what do we do? We have less children, while undesirables come into our county and try to destroy the American way of life.

We will be the losers if we do not honor marriage. Same sex marriage only insures our destruction, and our sure path to Sodom. We will deserve what ever comes to us, and it surely will.


8 posted on 07/05/2005 5:41:57 AM PDT by tessalu
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Why not also blame the fact that a lot of things change with the passing of time?


9 posted on 07/05/2005 5:42:10 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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Don't forget, women demand equality in the workplace... or they'll sue.

At the same time, the same women who demands to be treated exactly like a man... will expect to get alimony, custody and most material possessions jointly owned with her husband in the event of a divorce.

Right now, women want it both ways.

When courts give custody to men in 50% of divorce cases, and alimony to men in 50% of divorce cases... then men and women are truly equal. Until then, forget about it.

Smart men will continue to accelerate the marriage strike.

10 posted on 07/05/2005 5:44:57 AM PDT by Bon mots
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I wonder, though, if there is another possible explanation: that, frankly, a lot of women do not like men very much, and vice versa? And that, given the choice, a lot of women and men would prefer an adequate supply of casual nookie to a lifelong relationship with a member of the opposite sex?

These questions beg the central question, which is, Why should marriage be saved?

Marriage should be saved because it is the natural institution through which new members of society are born, raised and formed. It is in the best (and natural) interest of children to be raised by their natural parents, parents who have committed themselves to each other for life.

Natural marriage also serves an important secondary purpose, in channeling sexuality in a way most beneficial to individuals and society in general.

So marriage should be saved. And the greatest threat to marriage today is the widespread opinion that marriage should serve individual needs only. Marriage has become for many a means of self-actualization rather than self-sacrifice.

11 posted on 07/05/2005 5:47:45 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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Women are now the breadwinners and should be treated as such, as breadwinners used to be treated. Now that women outnumber men in college, in law school, in densitry, in vetinarian school, in grad school, and finally in medical school, educated women of the future will not only be the breadwinners, but will vastly out earn what uneducated unskilled men will be able to earn, esp after all the factories disappear.

When the male female earning power drastically changes into being lopsided the other way, with women outearning men the way men used to outearn women in the 1950's, a basic flip flop of roles would be expected, and certainly after womens "time" becomes worth so much more than mens time, women will have to give up all the menial unpaid tasks that they used to do - esp around the house.

12 posted on 07/05/2005 5:48:23 AM PDT by SandyB
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men needed women to cook and clean for them while women needed men to bring home the bacon

Higher educated/higher paid women of the future will need men to cook and clean for them.

13 posted on 07/05/2005 5:49:43 AM PDT by SandyB
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As soon as feminists stop telling little suzy to put away that vile toy stove, and pick up a toy jack hammer, and the gays stop telling little bobby that it's just dandy to wear pink sweaters and frollic with the boys, marriage will enjoy the same natural pervasiveness it did before feminism and the gay & lesbian agenda.


14 posted on 07/05/2005 5:49:53 AM PDT by kharaku (G3 (http://www.cobolsoundsystem.com/mp3s/unreleased/evewasanape.mp3))
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When courts give custody to men in 50% of divorce cases, and alimony to men in 50% of divorce cases... then men and women are truly equal. Until then, forget about it.

The root of the problem is no-fault divorce, isn't it?

15 posted on 07/05/2005 5:50:05 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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16 posted on 07/05/2005 5:52:09 AM PDT by since1868
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Marriage has become financial union based on the females emotions only because the man has no say in the program lest he sued for divorce and his life be ruined for ever.
Liza do you take this man for better are worse. I'll tell you what parson, If it's not better for me it will be worse for him.


17 posted on 07/05/2005 5:59:19 AM PDT by Judge Roy
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>>>But whose fault is that? If you treat all men as selfish, insensitive, lazy, lying, feckless, incompetent scumbags, you should not be surprised if that is what they turn out to be.>>>

Whine: It's not my fault I'm a selfish, insensitive, lazy, lying, feckless, incompetent scumbag!! It's the woman's fault because she thinks I am!!

Maybe if men (not all mind you) stopped ACTING like that, women would stop treating them like that. How about that?


18 posted on 07/05/2005 5:59:38 AM PDT by sandbar
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here's some more links you may like:

single abroad
fire your wife
cost of sex
BusterB
don't marry
hookup culture
mirror of the soul
misogyny central
niceguy's site

busterb and niceguy are hilarious, I highly recommend them. I also highly recommend not getting married

19 posted on 07/05/2005 6:00:28 AM PDT by music is math
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