Roswell Smoking Gun, the Ramey Memo - (explosive new proof;UFO crash N.M. 1947; gov't cover-up!)

UFO CASE BOOK.COM ^ | JUNE 28, 2005 | DAVID RUDIAK

[CHARLITE]

Note: This article is an addendum to The Roswell Crash, and Roswell, 50 years and counting. (Links on website:http://ufocasebook.com/rameymemo.html

Barely noticeable in one of the 1947 photos and clutched in Gen. Ramey's left hand is a slip of paper (boxed in red). Probably unwittingly, Gen. Ramey had the text side facing towards the camera, allowing the text on this paper to be photographed.

When blown up and analyzed, it tells a remarkably different story of events from the one Ramey or contemporary Air Force counter-intelligence wants you to believe.

The message turns out to be a telegram from Gen. Ramey to the Pentagon and Gen. Hoyt Vandenberg, the acting AAF Chief of Staff at the time. Ramey is providing Vandenberg an update on the very fluid situation in-the-field at Roswell. The first paragraph describes what had been found. Ramey starts by acknowledging "THAT A 'DISK' IS NEXT NEW FIND." He then adds that "THE VICTIMS OF THE WRECK" and something else (possibly just "A WRECK") had also been found near the recovery "OPERATION AT THE 'RANCH'." At the end it states that "YOU" (i.e. Gen. Vandenberg) had ordered the "victims" and/or the wreckage "FORWARDED" to "FORT WORTH, TEX."

In the second paragraph, Ramey describes how the situation was being handled. Ramey first states that something "IN THE 'DISC'", probably the bodies of the "forwarded" "victims" (and possibly termed "AVIATORS") would be flown by a B-29 Special Transport or C-47 to the "A1" (personnel director) of some "8TH ARMY****" division, most likely the head flight surgeon at Fort Worth given the context. Wright Field, Ohio, home of the AAF's aeronautical labs, was to assess the Roswell crash object (possibly referred to as an "AIRFOIL").

Finally Ramey outlines how the situation was being treated publicly and how they were going to cover it up. First he assures Vandenberg that the earlier highly inflammatory Roswell base press release (referred to as the "MISSTATE MEANING OF STORY") was the work of an Army counter-intelligence team ("CIC/TEAM"), but that the "NEXT SENT OUT PR" (Press Release) would be "OF WEATHER BALLOONS."

Ramey finishes with the statement that the weather balloon story might be better accepted if they also added weather balloon radar target demonstrations. This apparently was the impetus for the national debunking campaign using the devices that followed over the next few days.

There is no question that Ramey's message, even when greatly enlarged and then enhanced by computer, is a very difficult read because of fuzziness, film grain noise, uneven development, photo defects, paper folds and tilt, shadows, and text obscured at the left margin by Gen. Ramey's thumb. This will inevitably prompt comments from die-hard skeptics that a full "take" on the Ramey message is strictly one's own interpretation. However, there are various keywords and phrases that can be readily seen by anyone, even in lower resolution scans of the message first analyzed in 1999 by a number of people. These keywords and phrases unambiguously prove that there is no truth whatsoever to the various Air Force "explanations," be they the original 1947 "weather balloon" story, or the Air Forces updated "Mogul balloon" and "crash dummies."

Far and away the most important word of the entire message is "VICTIMS" on the third line (part of phrase "THE VICTIMS OF THE WRECK"). If there were "VICTIMS", then this was no Mogul balloon crash. As the Air Force Roswell report itself noted (using splendid circular reasoning) reports of bodies being recovered couldn't be true because the crash was of a Mogul balloon, which had "no 'alien' passengers therein."

Of course Ramey's mention of "VICTIMS" in 1947 also disproves the already preposterous "crash dummies" theory. The only way these 1950's crash dummies could be "victims" is if they also time-warped back to 1947.

Another easily seen keyword and phrase is "DISC" and "IN THE 'DISC" on the fifth line. Ramey is clearly describing the crash object as a "DISC", not as a "weather balloon", or a "Mogul" or a "radar target" or a "RAWIN" (jargon term for a radar wind target), or any other word or phase that in any way suggests some sort of balloon or balloon paraphenalia. In fact, the only mention of "weather balloons" and "RAWIN" targets comes at the very end of the message in the context of issued public statements and damage-control.

(The word "DISK" is also used on the first line in reference to what had been found, but this instance of the word is not so easily seen.)

Furthermore, the message refers to the subsequent shipment of something "IN the disc." Neither balloons nor the two-dimensional, flimsy radar kites had anything "inside" that could be shipped. If Ramey had been referring to some piece of balloon payload equipment, then the phrase should have begun with "attached to" or "suspended from", or "with", etc. In speaking of "THE VICTIMS OF THE WRECK",, using the word "DISC" for the crash object, and shipping something "IN THE DISC", Ramey is clearly referring to something other than a balloon crash. The simplest interpretation is to take the words literally. There is no reason for Gen. Ramey to be describing events abstractly in a secret communication to his superiors. This was the actually crash of a so-called "flying disk" craft with a dead crew found on the inside, as corroborated by the testimony of military and civilian witnesses.

Ramey is quite explicit about the existence of bodies and the crash object being a "disc." The only thing not made explicit in the message is the exact nature of the bodies or "disc." Ramey probably does not refer to the bodies as "nonhuman," "alien," or some similar term. Nor does he use terms like "spaceship," "craft of unknown origin," etc. to describe the "disc."

Among the theories about the Roswell incident is that this was the crash of some highly secretive government experimental craft piloted by a human crew. However, nobody has ever presented evidence that such an experimental disk-like craft ever existed or was tested in New Mexico at that time. It also seems highly unlikely that even a highly secret craft but with half-century-old technology would still be kept secret.

Further, it makes no sense that the government would be completely unaware of the crash of one of their own craft until some sheep rancher came into town to report it.

The same logic applies to the crash of something more conventional, such as a bomber carrying nuclear weapons (another theory sometimes proposed). The military would not wait for a local rancher to tell them about it nor would there be any need for continued secrecy into the present day. (Similar nuclear accidents have been declassified and are now in the public record.) And why would Gen. Ramey call it a "disc"?

Finally, both the Air Force and General Accounting Office (investigating on behalf of Congressman Schiff) in 1995 reported that air crash records revealed no plane crashes in that area during that time frame that could possibly explain the Roswell incident. In brief, there is simply no evidence for the crash of any conventional or experimental aircraft.

Telegram held in General Ramey's hand provides smoking gun proof of a "disk" crash and the recovery of "the victims of the wreck."

The Air Force claimed in their 1994/95 Roswell Report that a government photoanalysis lab which they refused to identify ("a national level organization") was unable to "visualize" any "details" in the Ramey memo from first generation prints and negative copies even after digitizing (computer scanning) supposedly because of "insufficient quality." As you look at higher resolution scans readily available to civilians from similar prints, how much "truth" do you suspect was in the Air Force statement?

[Junior]

The truth is out there.

And so's the author.

[keysguy]

Hey if you don't believe that's fine. I have been researching, reading reviewing everything including nasa videos of objects that streak across the horizon, stop i mid-air and streak off the other way after we fired a lazer at them for years. It took me over 10 years to change my frozen in time mind. But, everyone is entitled to their opinion.

[keysguy]

Yeah I gotta admit looking around earth with all the brilliance I see we have to be the ultimate beings. How could there be anything of higher intelligence than us, talk about barf alert!!

[snarks_when_bored]

How does our level of intelligence bear on the question of whether Earth has been (or is being) visited by space aliens?

[keysguy]

Just trying to be logical. The bottom line is that millions of people in every country in the world all believe that we are begin visited by extraterrestials. I do too after 30 years of study. I you don't it's your privilege.

If I ever retire I will delve even deeper for physical evidence which i believe exists.

[Nik Naym]

What is unlikely is that Ramsey would be carrying around a telegram he SENT.

(I can't believe I clicked on this silliness)

[keysguy]

Another time another era 1947 it's very possible.

[snarks_when_bored]

If you're trying to be logical, I respect that. But you must beware of falling into the trap of the non sequitur. From the vastness of the cosmos and/or the meagerness of our own intelligence, it does not follow that there exist beings elsewhere in the cosmos who are more intelligent than we are and that these beings have visited (or are visiting) Earth.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. For example, I have no doubt that Char and her family saw something quite unusual and not easily explained. But if, from her report and from similar reports by others, one concludes that extraterrestrial have visited (or are visiting) Earth, one is going beyond what the evidence shows. Perhaps they are, but such reports are very far from establishing it.

[snarks_when_bored]

But if, from her report and from similar reports by others, one concludes that extraterrestrial have visited (or are visiting) Earth, one is going beyond what the evidence shows. Perhaps they are, but such reports are very far from establishing it.

That 'extraterrestrial' needs an 's' on it. So to speak.

[keysguy]

From my own standpoint, my own opinion, I can't speak for anyone else, after reading books, seeing videos,photos,t.v.,radio of just a few of the more famous episodes I have become convinced we are being visited.

The following are just a few of the stories that are floating around. Roswell,Shag Harbor in Canada-- where us and Canadian govt.s tracked a ufo underwater for 7 days,two big ones in russia-- one that set off a nuc then 10 seconds later it went back to normal all equipment checked out nothing wrong, and another where a huge forest was leveled in the early 1900's in Siberia.More in Las Vegas a few years ago with huge ufos flying over the city the same in Mexico city for weeks, Texas in "1897" where every major newpaper carried a story of a ufo crash and Brazil where a doctor operated on an alien after another crash.

I feel if it walks like a duck just maybe its a duck.

[evets]

I don't think they're a 'joke', I'm not 'making light' of it,
and I didn't refer to you as 'tin foil hat idiot'.

but thanks for your reply anyway...

[CyberAnt]

No it's not "more bizarre".

You can believe in your little green men if you want .. but I'm not buying it.

[ozzymandus]

Are you sure that memo didn't come from Downing Street?

[CHARLITE]

" I didn't refer to you as 'tin foil hat idiot'."

I didn't think you meant me. I didn't take it personally. I was just commenting on how people who have never had any experience with UFOs or even with abductions (which are just too numerous to discount), should not be denigrating those who have had these experiences.

Thousands of individuals, who are geographically separated, and also differing in time by decades, who have experienced what I did, watching the spacecraft and little craft over 15+ minutes (and other phenomena) can't all be "crazy" or hallucinating!

That was my only point.

One should maintain at least a neutral attitude toward phenomena of which one does not personally have knowledge.

Thanks for your comment.

Char :)

[CHARLITE]

"I have no doubt that Char and her family saw something quite unusual and not easily explained. But if, from her report and from similar reports by others, one concludes that extraterrestrial have visited (or are visiting) Earth, one is going beyond what the evidence shows."

Well then, how would any rational person "logically explain" a giant disc-shaped mothership suspended, motionless some 1,000 to 2,000 ft. above a treeline, while countless (2-3 dozen) tiny baby craft move in, around and out of an eerily-lighted aperture in the base of the mothership......and then in a matter of SECONDS, all of the small craft are vacuumed up and into the aperture, which closes; - seconds later the mother craft zooms off at a 45 degree angle into the crisp, clear February night sky. One or two more seconds, and it's gone - vanished!

As a rational observer, the very least I can say is that such a sight reveals NOTHING that is aeronautically possible within our known technology. If it's unknown on our planet, then the conclusion must be that it's from outside of our planetary environment.

Just simple deduction, Mr. Watson!

To me, it is an expression of simple humility to conclude that there are many mysteries that we can't solve right now; many things we don't know. However, I know what I and my 5 children saw, and there is no way on God's green earth that I can "unsee what I saw" - let alone rationally explain it, either as an optical illusion or a "secret government test program" (taking place above a treeline on my property in Massachusetts, no less!!)

Char :)

[CHARLITE]

P.S. I also might add that mockery, ridicule and scorn are standard responses from people, in many instances, which they use (often unconciously) to mask an innate reaction of fear. . . . fear of the unknown and unexplained.

It makes people feel more comfortable, if they can laugh off a mystery which might.......just might.......be a reality, and which could.......just could.......alter their lives, if proven to be hostile (i.e. "not of this world" - ergo, "alien!")

Char

[zot]

Here is a link to some original documents from the kool-aide factory. Especially, see General Twining's "White Hot" Report: Mission Assessment of Recovered Lenticular Aerodyne Objects, 19 September 1947

http://www.majesticdocuments.com/documents/pre1948.php

[doug from upland]

Interesting. I had missed this.

[Fledermaus]

Call Dan Rather, I'm sure he has more memos.

[Dengar01]

Ping!