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To: keysguy
If you're trying to be logical, I respect that. But you must beware of falling into the trap of the non sequitur. From the vastness of the cosmos and/or the meagerness of our own intelligence, it does not follow that there exist beings elsewhere in the cosmos who are more intelligent than we are and that these beings have visited (or are visiting) Earth.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. For example, I have no doubt that Char and her family saw something quite unusual and not easily explained. But if, from her report and from similar reports by others, one concludes that extraterrestrial have visited (or are visiting) Earth, one is going beyond what the evidence shows. Perhaps they are, but such reports are very far from establishing it.

128 posted on 06/30/2005 5:25:42 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: keysguy; snarks_when_bored
But if, from her report and from similar reports by others, one concludes that extraterrestrial have visited (or are visiting) Earth, one is going beyond what the evidence shows. Perhaps they are, but such reports are very far from establishing it.

That 'extraterrestrial' needs an 's' on it. So to speak.

129 posted on 06/30/2005 5:28:24 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: snarks_when_bored; keysguy; B4Ranch; Fred Nerks
"I have no doubt that Char and her family saw something quite unusual and not easily explained. But if, from her report and from similar reports by others, one concludes that extraterrestrial have visited (or are visiting) Earth, one is going beyond what the evidence shows."

Well then, how would any rational person "logically explain" a giant disc-shaped mothership suspended, motionless some 1,000 to 2,000 ft. above a treeline, while countless (2-3 dozen) tiny baby craft move in, around and out of an eerily-lighted aperture in the base of the mothership......and then in a matter of SECONDS, all of the small craft are vacuumed up and into the aperture, which closes; - seconds later the mother craft zooms off at a 45 degree angle into the crisp, clear February night sky. One or two more seconds, and it's gone - vanished!

As a rational observer, the very least I can say is that such a sight reveals NOTHING that is aeronautically possible within our known technology. If it's unknown on our planet, then the conclusion must be that it's from outside of our planetary environment.

Just simple deduction, Mr. Watson!

To me, it is an expression of simple humility to conclude that there are many mysteries that we can't solve right now; many things we don't know. However, I know what I and my 5 children saw, and there is no way on God's green earth that I can "unsee what I saw" - let alone rationally explain it, either as an optical illusion or a "secret government test program" (taking place above a treeline on my property in Massachusetts, no less!!)

Char :)

135 posted on 06/30/2005 12:37:59 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I propose a co-Clinton team as permanent reps to Pyonyang, w/out possibility of repatriation....)
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To: snarks_when_bored
"From the vastness of the cosmos and/or the meagerness of our own intelligence, it does not follow that there exist beings elsewhere in the cosmos who are more intelligent than we are and that these beings have visited (or are visiting) Earth."

Speaking as something of a skeptic (regarding whether aliens are here), I would say that there is good reason, if not evidence, to suspect that alien technology at least is much more advanced than ours, in that apparently our solar system is thought to be relatively much younger than most of the rest of the cosmos.

As far as intelligence goes, I see no reason why alien intelligence would necessarily be even similar enough to ours to be even comprehensible to us.

157 posted on 07/01/2005 8:54:18 AM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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