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Anglicans 'expel' Canada (and also the openly apostate U.S. Episcopal Church!)
National Post - Canada ^ | Thursday, June 23, 2005 | Bob Harvey et al

Posted on 06/23/2005 1:15:56 PM PDT by GMMAC

Anglicans 'expel' Canada
Clergy barred from key bodies over gay marriage

Bob Harvey; with files from Natalie Alcoba
CanWest News Service, with files from The Daily Telegraph

NATIONAL POST
Thursday, June 23, 2005


The fierce battle within the Anglican Church over homosexual clergy and same-sex marriage has brought the Canadian and American branches of the faith to the brink of banishment by the Church's ruling bodies meeting in England.

The controversy flared up at the Anglican Consultative Council session in Nottingham yesterday, pitting the liberal, pro-homosexual Canadian and American congregations against a hardline coalition of African and Asian wings that bitterly opposes homosexual involvement in Church affairs.

At the root of the dispute is the consecration of openly gay clergyman Gene Robinson as Bishop of New Hampshire and the decision by the diocese of New Westminster, B.C., to authorize the blessing of same-sex marriage.

The same-sex confrontation in the Church comes as the Parliament of Canada is locked in an equally bitter showdown over government legislation that would make Canada only the third nation in the world to legalize formal same-sex marriage.

Yesterday the Consultative Council rejected the North American rationale for homosexual participation in Church affairs and voted to banish both Canada and the U.S. from the council and its central finance and standing committees.

A watered down resolution that stopped short of demanding North American banishment from all Church bodies, requested "that the Episcopal Church [U.S.] and the Anglican Church of Canada withdraw their members from the council's standing committee and the inter-Anglican finance and administration committee."

The resolution passed 30-28 in a secret ballot, with four abstentions, behind the closed doors of the council's session at the University of Nottingham.

Although somewhat milder than the original version, The Times of London noted "it amounts in effect to a punishing expulsion."

"If there was any doubt left about the serious nature of this rift, this week's meeting has made clear how far from agreement both sides appear to be, and the extent to which neither is willing to compromise," said The Times. "The deepening anger on both sides means the 2008 conference in Canterbury could see savage theological conflict."

The newspaper added that the events of the week moved the Church "closer to schism."

The Church's official policy declares homosexuality "incompatible with scripture."

The Canadian and U.S. branches of the Church had already agreed to refrain from participation in the governing council until 2008.

Nigeria's Archbishop Peter Akinola has been the loudest of the Asian and African critics of the North American churches and submitted yesterday's resolution. Both U.S. and Canadian leaders came to this week's council meetings to explain why they had taken stands that marred their relationships with sister churches.

However, Canadian delegates, including the church's primate, Archbishop Andrew Hutchison, refused to drop their support of the blessing of same-sex unions in Vancouver.

Reverend Peter Elliott, dean of Christ Church Cathedral in Vancouver and the deputy chairman of the Canadian church's governing body, its General Synod, told the Consultative Council on Tuesday, "I am a gay man. I am in a committed partnership myself."

He said he is able to hold such a visible position in the Church because of the support of his partner, his family, his bishop and his diocese.

In a letter to the international Anglican Consultative Council, Archbishop Hutchison expressed regret over strained relationships with other Anglicans and agreed that until Canada's General Synod meets in 2007, there will be a moratorium on the blessing of same-sex unions.

The Canadian delegation told the meeting in Nottingham that the Church exists in a social, cultural and political context where seven of 10 provinces have already authorized same-sex marriages. But Bishop Sue Moxley of Nova Scotia and Prince Edward Island said that despite their differences, Canadian leaders continue to see themselves as part of the worldwide Church.

The Right Reverend Catherine Roskam, the suffragan bishop of New York, called on other Anglican churches to learn to live with different approaches to sexuality. In a 130-page document, the U.S. Episcopal Church argued that its members have found holiness in same-sex relationships and have come to support the blessing of such unions and the ordination of homosexuals.

Charlie Masters, national director for Anglican Essentials Canada, a group that represents conservative Anglicans, welcomed yesterday's decision, calling it an opportunity for the Canadian church to change its direction.

"It shows that the Anglican communion is strong in its resolve to call the Anglican Church back to Anglican beliefs," he said.

The meeting of delegates from the 38 Anglican churches will continue until June 28. National churches must then decide whether to accept or reject any decisions made at the meetings.

© National Post 2005


TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: anglican; canada; canuckistan; canuckithtan; ecusa; episcopalian; europeanchristians; fallout; gayagenda; homosexualagenda; homosexualbishop; samesexmarriage; schism
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Thanks to GMMAC for posting this.

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61 posted on 06/23/2005 5:13:44 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || Iran Azadi || <Airbus A380)^: The BIG PIG)
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To: GMMAC

1 Corinthians 6:9 Do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, [shall inherit the Kingdom of God].

1 Timothy 5:20 Rebuke before all those who sin, that others also may fear.
3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;
4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof comes envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,
5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw yourself.

Titus 3:10 Reject a factious man after a first and second warning.

The Anglican Council has done well.


62 posted on 06/23/2005 5:17:55 PM PDT by GretchenM (Hooked on porn and hating it? Visit http://www.theophostic.com .)
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To: McGavin999

They left us behind 27 years ago. We're still here, but they get the press...

...doesn't take much to figure why.

In Christ,
Deacon Paul+


63 posted on 06/23/2005 5:50:58 PM PDT by BelegStrongbow (St. Joseph, protector of the Innocent, pray for us!)
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To: GMMAC

bookmarked. wake me when they move on excommunicating the heretics


64 posted on 06/23/2005 5:59:35 PM PDT by King Prout (I'd say I missed ya, but that'd be untrue... I NEVER MISS)
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To: Marauder

Question: does your parish church have a board set up to govern its finances, or is the structure owned by the diocese? How does that work?

In many areas the libs not only take the church but take the property conservatives have put money into. You should inoculate yourselves if you can by controlling whatever boards are out there so the property could transfer to a conservative church.


65 posted on 06/23/2005 6:15:44 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (<-- sick of faux-conservatives who want federal government intervention for 'conservative things.')
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To: Dems_R_Losers
"Exactly, this was my biggest problem with Gene Robinson. What an utterly selfish man, to bring an entire worldwide communion of Christians to its knees just to legitimize his dirty sex habits."

Gene Robinson and the other homsexual clergy represent exactly what the queer agenda is all about: It's all about them and what's between their legs. They are obsessed with homosexual behavior and in forcing normal heterosexual men and women accept their unnatural behavior.

66 posted on 06/23/2005 6:20:26 PM PDT by StormEye
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To: SuziQ
With the MSM on the warpath against Christians... IF the Orthodox( or the Baptists for that matter) had those problems as BADLY as the RC church... We would all be hearing about it LOUD AND CLEAR!!

The fact that most Eastern Orthodox priests are married and have families, sort of helps to keep a certain homosexual group out of the clergy.

I cannot go into all the details but the young lady and her sister who have left the R.C. have a close relative who was molested by somebody connected to their former Church. By the way, the family did NOT sue the Church. They simply left THAT Church.

67 posted on 06/23/2005 7:02:29 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (Getting old is NOT for sissies.... trust me, I know!)
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To: GMMAC
"If there was any doubt left about the serious nature of this rift, this week's meeting has made clear how far from agreement both sides appear to be, and the extent to which neither is willing to compromise,"

It is not up to he who adheres to commandments, statutes, and ordinances to compromise with he who strays. Such a compromise only results in both being astray.

Something about there being no compromise with evil, lest there be naught but evil.

What it comes down to is, the Anglican Consultative Council needs to tell the US & Canadian communions that they can let their gays have all the tail they want, but they can't let them use it to wag the Church.

68 posted on 06/23/2005 7:20:46 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more work horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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To: MeanWestTexan

But it said they were expelled... I was disappointed. :(


69 posted on 06/23/2005 7:23:36 PM PDT by johnb838 (Adios, mofo!)
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To: SuziQ

no.


70 posted on 06/23/2005 7:24:24 PM PDT by johnb838 (Adios, mofo!)
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To: Dems_R_Losers

I suppose they stole my birthright too, but the Catholic church is the real thing... the piskies are just pretenders. Come home to Rome. You'll be glad you did.


71 posted on 06/23/2005 7:27:01 PM PDT by johnb838 (Adios, mofo!)
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To: Stand W
However...!!! our helpful manual (provided by the ELCA) makes the case that "Well, you know, Christ really freed us from all those ridiculous old testament laws

Except according to Acts 15, sexuall immorality is still a no no.

72 posted on 06/23/2005 7:28:29 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Marauder

Exactly: People are the same, evil and good, in every church, but when the church itself calls evil good, it's time to go.


73 posted on 06/23/2005 7:35:31 PM PDT by johnb838 (Adios, mofo!)
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To: xp38

BEnedict 16 has called for civil disobedience. It is a most fascinating situation.


74 posted on 06/23/2005 7:36:21 PM PDT by johnb838 (Adios, mofo!)
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To: Dont Mention the War

I love him. But dang, sometimes he looks downright scary.


75 posted on 06/23/2005 7:37:30 PM PDT by johnb838 (Adios, mofo!)
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To: McGavin999

McGavin, it's obvious you haven't been listening, and discerning enough. We must have integrity, and prayer, and discernment, and love, and integration, and the blessings of the Holy Spirit to anoint the discernment Process so we can come to a mutual integrated conclusive dialogue that is inclusive of the whole refractive range of the rainbow of diversity that IS the Episcopal Church of the USA.


76 posted on 06/23/2005 7:40:21 PM PDT by johnb838 (Adios, mofo!)
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To: SuziQ

Same with the Piskies. If it doesn't help the homos, it doesn't make the news.


77 posted on 06/23/2005 7:43:13 PM PDT by johnb838 (Adios, mofo!)
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To: johnb838
"I love him. But dang, sometimes he looks downright scary.'

Scary?

Not 'God's Rottweillor' - LOL!

78 posted on 06/23/2005 8:14:34 PM PDT by GMMAC (paraphrasing Parrish: "damned Liberals, I hate those bastards!")
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To: GMMAC
The Right Reverend Catherine Roskam, the suffragan bishop of New York, called on other Anglican churches to learn to live with different approaches to sexuality. In a 130-page document, the U.S. Episcopal Church argued that its members have found holiness in same-sex relationships and have come to support the blessing of such unions and the ordination of homosexuals.

Coming at this from a Catholic perspective, there are so many things wrong with this paragraph that I don't know where to begin parsing it.
79 posted on 06/23/2005 8:28:43 PM PDT by Antoninus (Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini, Hosanna in excelsis!)
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To: GMMAC; Great Dane; Alberta's Child; headsonpikes; coteblanche; Ryle; albertabound; mitchbert; ...

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80 posted on 06/24/2005 5:06:50 AM PDT by Clive
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