Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative
Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...
Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts
Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts
Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts
Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts
Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts
Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts
Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts
Aruba Info...
Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif
Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif
San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif
Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)
Hotel Pictures -
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)
Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1
Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1
Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg
Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html
Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif
Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)
Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/
Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html
Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html
Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)
Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/
Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923
Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.
Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif
The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long
B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.
D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse - the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.
D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.
G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located
D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives
F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.
C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.
E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.
PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.
I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.
This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.
Examples
Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif
or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)
I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE
Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)
This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.
When I used to sneak out, the car of a friend would be waiting a couple of blocks away. But that's just me.
It means that this could be a massive coverup by people who have long been covered. Sex, drugs and gambling.
.......and my husband was.....
I just thought of it. She said "my husband was sleeping."
Thank you sarasota! TexKat, if it wouldn't be too much trouble, would you please add me to your ping list. Thank you ever so much.
I sneaked out one time late at night from my cousin's home during a family visit. We were too young to know anyone that drove, so we walked a couple of blocks and met up with some of her girlfriends. We were gone about an hour. I'll never forget turning that last corner on the walk back to her house. EVERY LIGHT IN THE HOUSE WAS ON! Caught like a mouse in a trap. I never did that again.
Listening to the video replay AvdS says that the family computer was seized by LE. She says it doesn't have any locks so they could see what the kids were doing. Is she saying she knows of their tickle profiles? This poor woman is either in complete denial and/or hasn't a clue what's gone on. Perhaps JvdS also used computers at the cyber cafe where Depak works.
Not surprisingly, PvdS's business laptop was also taken.
"Maybe there is a sex tape"---or two. They've got the three computers as well, I believe. The plot sickens.
Naughty girl, cajungirl. ;-D
I thought of that too. Perhaps I should have left that off my post.
More importantly, I don't think dad would have a problem with JvdS hitting the clubs. He condoned his underage gambling and drinking, is seems.
I've noticed that you seem to be 'in the know' about Natalee's family, kcvl. I read where you called someone out on another post for reporting something false about the family the other day. Makes me wonder if you're a close family friend or possible relative. Care to tell?
Beth admitted last night that she almost couldn't get out of bed yesterday morning. I can't even imagine the living hell her family is going through. In one of the interviews Natalee's dad, Dave, gave last night, he indicated that he thinks they're mostly looking for a body at this point. It's as if he's resigned himself to her probable death. I'll keep praying that this will soon be resolved and that Natalee will be found, one way or the other.
Regards
I wonder what neighbors of the VDS's heard that night...barking dogs? Slamming car doors? About the Kalpoe brothers, and that interview of Greta's with Mrs. K. was very sad. She seems such a decent, hardworking, loving mother. Anyway, the Kalpoe bros. could have been manipulated by J that they had to help him dispose of the body, etc., because if he was caught, they'd be accessories. I think they'd believe anything he told them, after all, his father is a judge.
As for their picking him up that night and ferrying him and N from bar to beach to wherever, Joran is 6'4" at least. And for some reason, people tend to do favors for really tall, big men. (They even get promoted more than shorter men.) Maybe the Kalpoe bros. were flattered by Joran's casual attentions. If so, they sure got more than they bargained for.
Read about GHB here.
GHB
COMMON & BRAND NAMESG; Sodium Oxybate EFFECTS
CLASSIFICATION Depressant Intoxicant CHEMICAL NAME gamma-hydroxybutyrate DESCRIPTION
GHB is a sedative used both as a sleep-aid and as a recreational intoxicant. It is known for its ability to induce a short (several hour) coma-like sleep at high doses. A number of GHB-related deaths in combination with its addiction potential led to it being made illegal in 1999.
CAUTION
GHB's dose/response curve is similar to that of alcohol : At higher doses, users fall unconscious and are temporarily unable to be awakened (coma). It may also dangerously depress breathing. Avoid Mixing With Alcohol.
Adding another page to my tinfoil had theory ...
Remember that witness that saw some struggle on the beach, two men and a woman?
Perhaps the Kalpoe brothers dropped JvdS at the beach, later dad picked up Natalee and JvdS taking them back to the home.
That would explain how Natalee got to the home, if indeed true, and why LE seized both vdS vehicles.
had = hat
bbl
It's possible, if there was a ransom and it was indeed paid, that Natalee has not been returned to the Holloways. Hence the call for Texas Equus and a change in Beth's positive attitude.
I recall that witness. He said he tried to get help and was ignored. Too bad he wasn't walking a big German shepherd that night. He could have let the dog loose, and if that girl was N, she'd be back home, safe and sound. Wiser, too.
If N ended up at the VDS house that night, oh my.
Dead at some point, presumably, esp. if given that date rape drug. If she'd been alive, and if Papa had been in his right mind, he'd have taken her straight to the Holiday Inn. If Mrs. VDS had been home that night, well, she'd probably have gone along with whatever her husband said, unfortunately. Aha, just now on Fox, a former FBI agent says he thinks it'll be another week or ten days before we hear anything of substance.
Very interesting, brigette.
KC, it was really hard listening to Beth last night talking to Alan Colmes. She said yesterday she really didn't think she could even get out of bed. I'm so sorry for what that family is going through. I hope they all know someday how much we were rooting for them, and that they take some small measure of comfort from it.
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