Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative
Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...
Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts
Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts
Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts
Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts
Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts
Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts
Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts
Aruba Info...
Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif
Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif
San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif
Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)
Hotel Pictures -
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)
Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1
Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1
Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg
Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html
Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif
Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)
Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/
Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html
Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html
Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)
Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/
Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923
Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.
Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif
The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long
B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.
D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse - the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.
D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.
G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located
D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives
F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.
C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.
E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.
PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.
I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.
This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.
Examples
Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif
or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)
I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE
Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)
This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.
A translation from Dutch to English stating the ages.
Wasn't it Alabamans that made the final Rebel charge up Little Roundtop?
*
Anita van der Sloot said she and her husband received a call from neighbors saying police were waiting for them at their home in Noord, Northwest of the capital, Oranjestad. She then called Police Superintendent Jan van der Straaten, who asked them to come to the police station. When they arrived, authorities "took my husband into custody as a suspect," Anita van der Sloot said, adding, "I don't know what to think."
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Anita van der Sloot said Joran has since changed his story, telling her that he was alone with Natalee on a beach.
"He says, 'Mom, I dropped the girl at the beach. I walked with her. I left her there because she wanted to stay there. I left and I don't know what happened. There my statement ends,' " Anita van der Sloot said.
Anita van der Sloot didn't say which beach.
When asked if Joran had changed his initial story, she replied, "Joran changed his story only one time. I think he was scared because he sneaked out of the house that evening. I think he was scared and wanted to cover other people too. He changed his story once and added details."
http://www.decaturdaily.com/decaturdaily/news/050624/suspect.shtml
Have you ever been there?
Joran Van der Sloot's mother visited him in the jail on Tuesday and described him as very upset and sad, but hanging in there. She said that she and her family were very frustrated with a lack of information -- a similar complaint from Holloway's family.
"I think we all are the same, and frustrated, because nothing is going on," Anita van der Sloot said. "There's a lot of things going on, but we don't know what is going on."
"He's very upset because today would have been a very great day for him," said Anita van der Sloot. "We would have made preparations for his study in the states, so he's very sad, but he's doing OK."
Thu, Jun. 23, 2005
PB High School grad prays her daughter is still alive
Associated Press
PINE BLUFF, Ark. - The mother of Natalee Holloway, an Alabama teenager missing for three weeks in Aruba, says she prays that her daughter has only been kidnapped, and is still alive somewhere on the Caribbean island.
"Isn't it strange that I should be praying that my daughter has been kidnapped?" Beth Holloway Twitty said from her hotel room in Aruba, in a telephone interview Thursday with the Pine Bluff Commercial.
Twitty is the former Beth Reynolds, a 1978 graduate of Pine Bluff High School, and her mother, Ann Reynolds, still lives in Pine Bluff. Twitty, a speech therapist, and her husband live in Mountain Brook, Ala., near Birmingham, with Natalee, 18, and their 16-year-old son, Matt.
Twittty has been in Aruba since shortly after her daughter disappeared during the early morning hours of May 30. The teenager was on a high school graduation trip with 124 other students.
While a search for Holloway continues, Aruba police have made several arrests in connection with the case, including a 17-year-old Dutch youth, two Surinamese brothers, a party-boat disc-jockey and, on Thursday, the father of the Dutch teenager.
Also in Aruba to help with the search for the Alabama teenager are her father, Dave Holloway, and his wife, Robin, of Meridian, Miss., and a host of family and friends who have traveled to and from the island at various times. Dave Holloway is a graduate of Jonesboro Westside High School in Arkansas.
Twitty said she spends her days walking the streets and beaches of Aruba and pleading for information from anyone who will listen. She hands them prayer cards and bracelets with a message of hope for Natalee.
She carries notebooks in which she records comments and information from the people she encounters, she said - anything she deems important to her daughter's case. The people, Twitty said, have been very supportive.
She finally slows down around 1 or 2 a.m., she said, and wakes before 5 a.m. Twitty said she's driven by a need to attain justice.
"I get mad, but it's almost like you have to play the cards you're dealt," she said. "The government here and the laws are so different from the U.S. I just have to do what I can, when I can."
" A translation from Dutch to English stating the ages."
Thanks for the reply and the previous post from Holland. You've found some very interesting posts on what might be happening Aruba.
Scarlett wrote:
Hi Everybody,
I have been lurking for a while but just wanted to throw my thoughts into the mix.
JVDS did take Natalee to the beach, but saw something he wasn't supposed to see. I'm thinking a drug drop or shippment. The people that were there, including Steve Crose, know that they cannot let Natalee get away but they can't make the son of a judge disappear so easily. They tell JVDS to keep his mouth shut or he would face a murder charge, and maybe more, like his family getting hurt. JVDS emails Deepak to come get him then when he gets home tells Papa. Papa knows these people because he is a judge and has knowledge of what goes on in the drug trade. Papa tells JVDS to keep his mouth shut, he would take care of it. I always thought it was funny that the two security guards were arrested so fast. Did Papa mis-direct the investigation?
Since JVDS also told Deepak now they all have to come up with an good story to cover themselves because they know they were the last people to be seen with Natalee.
Papa is praying that JVDS, Deepak and Stashi can keep their mouths shut, but they are young, so the stories are starting to fray at the edges a little, just the cover story. I don't think anyone that is currently under arrest is ever going to tell what really happened to Natalee because they have a much bigger fear than being in jail for 20 years. If they talk, their families will end up like the man that was beheaded.
Remember when Arubagirl said this month was the "crappiest" one she has seen on the island. Too much violence for this peaceful place, all because JVDS and Natalee were in the wrong place at the wrong time.
I don't think JVDS gave Natalee drugs. They both might have had a little too much to drink, but I really get the feeling they were just acting like a couple of teenagers who got in over their heads.
For what it's worth...just my 2 cents.
PS. I'm not a teacher, but the mother of a teacher is almost as good. (Social Studies, Phys Ed and football/basketball coach)
Mother says son innocent and being unfairly targeted
The Associated Press
The mother of a Dutch youth held in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway says she thinks her son's being unfairly targeted simply because he was one of the last people to see her.
Anita van der Sloot tells N-B-C from Aruba that her son Joran is mentally strong. But she also thinks the interrogations would have broken him down by now if he knew anything about the Alabama teen's fate. She says she believes the boy when he says he's innocent.
Holloway's mother met with van der Sloot and her husband. The Dutch teen's mother says the meeting was very emotional and she can't understand why Holloway thinks Joran and the others being detained know more than they've told investigators.
Van der Sloot says she wants people to know her son is just an "ordinary teenager" who was getting ready to go to college in the U.S.. And she says why would a boy with a normal life "do something wrong to a girl he just met?"
Very interesting take on what happened. Sounds plausible.
Bump!!
Nadira Ramirez, the mother of the Surinamese brothers appeared to back the new story. She said her son told her they had dropped the missing girl with Joran near a beach. She told Fox News Channel Thursday night: "I asked Satish why (to) you lie to mama."
"He said he's our friend and we tried to lie to, you know, to cover him or something"
Associated Press(AP)
And I pray with Beth.
" And I pray with Beth. "
Me too, TexKat! In fact, I'm gonna do that right now.
Nite all.
In this picture provided by Beth Holloway Twitty, missing Alabama teen Natalee Holloway, left, is seen posing with friends from left to right Lee Broughton, Madison Whatley, and Ruth McVay, in a photograph taken with Natalee's disposable camera on the beach in Aruba, Sunday, May 29, 2005, hours before she disappeard the next day May 30, the last day of her high school graduation trip to this Dutch Caribbean island. (AP Photo/Beth Holloway Twitty, HO)
"There is a reasonable suspicion that he knows something and is involved in the disappearance," Mariaine Croes, a spokeswoman for the Aruban attorney general's office, told CNN. "He's being interrogated as a suspect."
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The new arrest stirred speculation on this resort island of about 100,000 that the baffling case might be nearing a climax. Police have been extraordinarily tight-lipped about their evidence, but CNN cited unidentified sources close to the investigation who said the elder van der Sloot may have been arrested on suspicion that he helped his son concoct a story about what happened on the night Holloway disappeared.
The legal standard for holding suspects in the early stages of an investigation is looser under Aruban law than in the United States. While American police must have probable cause that a suspect was involved in a crime, in Aruba, police can arrest and question suspects based on a mere reasonable suspicion.
Under Aruban law, Paul van der Sloot can be held for 48 hours for questioning, during which he has the right to refuse to speak and can ask for an attorney. At the end of that period, a judge must review the case and determine whether he can be held for an additional eight days.
Suspects can be held for a total of 116 days without formal charges, although their cases are reviewed periodically by a judge who determines whether their continued incarceration is justified.
While Anita van der Sloot had been allowed to visit her son occasionally in jail, authorities have denied similar access to her husband. They did so because they were treating the father as a potential witness, and believed contact between the two could damage the investigation.
Officials said that lie detector equipment was brought in for the questioning. Polygraphs aren't admissible in court in the United States, but attorneys said that if everyone agreed, they would use a polygraph in the investigation there.
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