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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3
Link to previous thread ^ | 6/23/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative

Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923


Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.


Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.


PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)



I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE


Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)


This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.




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To: Mo1

It's at a standstill Mo. I will NOT be surprised if all three are released after Monday's hearing, unless Natalee's body is found.


4,861 posted on 06/30/2005 12:46:22 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: onyx

SC wasn't grilled. PvdS wasn't grilled. The SG's weren't grilled.


4,862 posted on 06/30/2005 12:46:49 AM PDT by maggief
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To: Mo1

So far all we can be sure of is that she left the club with them.

After that, the rest is a pack of lies.


4,863 posted on 06/30/2005 12:47:04 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: onyx

Probably.


4,864 posted on 06/30/2005 12:47:43 AM PDT by maggief
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To: maggiefluffs

See? That's the problem. Nobody is trying to break those three boys. Total frustration. I'd be on the prosecutor's butt 24/7, even if it landed me in jail.


4,865 posted on 06/30/2005 12:48:46 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: onyx

My sister was telling me she was watching some show and they had a geologist on

He said the way the current runs on that island .. if they disposed of her on one side of the island .. she would come back on shore .. but that if they disposed of her on the other side .. that she would go out to sea


4,866 posted on 06/30/2005 12:48:58 AM PDT by Mo1 (We will stay in the fight until the fight is won ~~~ President G.W. Bush)
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To: Mo1

It's the side they were on; if they put her out there, she's way gone.


4,867 posted on 06/30/2005 12:50:31 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: onyx
JVDS claims that Natalee was drugging and drinking and that she FELL in front of the Holiday Inn.

He's a liar. The family knows that isn't true. He wasn't even in "front of the Holiday Inn". And that isn't Natalee AT ALL. If she was "drunk" it is because she was given something without her knowledge. Besides, NOTHING Juran has said has been the truth.

If I didn't have a couple of businesses to run I would be on the next plane to Aruba. If for no other reason than to kick someone's ass. I'm so damn sick of this mess I could scream!

BTW, if Natalee wanted to take drugs she wouldn't have to go to Aruba to do it. Her grandfather was in the nursing home business and one of her aunt's owns a pharmacy. How hard would it be for her to get drugs?! According to her aunt she has never even seen her drink, period.

4,868 posted on 06/30/2005 12:50:59 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: onyx

They don't want to break the boys, IMO.


4,869 posted on 06/30/2005 12:51:45 AM PDT by maggief
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To: Mo1

I saw that too... but the key factor was how far off shore she would have had to be dumped. Remember, the time line --- they created their own timeline and I suspect that's a HUGE lie. I am willing to bet JVDS asked Natalee how late she could stay out ad that poor, dear Natalee answered truthfully that nobody would notice until the morning when it was time to depart. She likely told him, she was already packed and ready to go.


4,870 posted on 06/30/2005 12:51:48 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: kcvl

He's trying to make her a slut -- "came on to him" -- won back money for her, she danced provocatively, SHE ASKED for the ride back to her hotel, she was drugging and drinking, she fell, he left her on the beach --- JMJ, it's ALL LIES.


4,871 posted on 06/30/2005 12:54:57 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: kcvl
. If for no other reason than to kick someone's ass.

Just tell me where to send the bail money, honey.

But you know how their "system" works now; you can figure out a way to get away with it scott-free.

4,872 posted on 06/30/2005 12:55:17 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: kcvl


I wish you could go down there too. I know you'd raise hell.


4,873 posted on 06/30/2005 12:55:57 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: onyx
BTW, who believes that he won some of her money back for her? I do NOT.

Then why didn't the casino cameras show him gambling? No, I don't believe anything he says. Besides, I doubt that she gambled at all. She likes to shop. Do you really think she would lose her money (not her dad's money, btw) not ever having gambled in her life?

Juran and his accomplices are trying to trash her (mostly in the press). It's not working. The people who KNOW her KNOWS better than to believe that.

4,874 posted on 06/30/2005 12:56:23 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl

So, his mother and father have "invited" Joran's friends over to their house to find out what they told the police Joran said about Natalee -- and now they are allowed to go into the jail to have a "private meeting" with him?

Gosh, I'm sure they won't tell him how to "customize" his next answers.


4,875 posted on 06/30/2005 12:59:11 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
I keep wondering why they talk about going to that lighthouse; why not just say they dropped them off at the beach.

Exactly. That is exactly what Mark Fuhrman was saying tonight. Juran was a little too specific with his whereabouts. I think they are searching around the lighthouse tomorrow and the rest of the rock areas. Say a prayer they find her.

4,876 posted on 06/30/2005 12:59:33 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl; Howlin; maggiefluffs; Mo1

I am so tired and worn out from packing all day, but I'm so livid and upset, I think I''ll rob husband's black bag for a sedative. After I take it, I'll be good for maybe another 15 mintues, so please type fast...lol.

Tonight's interviews really killed me -- all those lies in the attempt to trash Natalee, an HONOR student from a GOOD Southern family. What colossal nerve.


4,877 posted on 06/30/2005 1:00:28 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: kcvl

I'm thinking whatever did happen did happen at the lighthouse -- the Marriott is a diversion.

And I am praying. I'm looking at those bracelets; I may order one.


4,878 posted on 06/30/2005 1:00:52 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: onyx
Husband wonders whether the boys are truly being grilled.

Like PVDS? They never grilled him. They ONLY took his statement.

4,879 posted on 06/30/2005 1:00:53 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: onyx

The "bad news" certainly is piling up; everybody looks depressed.


4,880 posted on 06/30/2005 1:01:46 AM PDT by Howlin
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