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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3
Link to previous thread ^ | 6/23/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative

Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923


Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.


Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.


PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)



I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE


Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)


This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.




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To: kcvl

Jug was surprised by NG saying 8 times... might be an exaggeration. Jug even mentioned that he just wants Natalie back (hopefully alive) but even if she's dead, they just want to bring her home.

They're wearing down... I feel so badly for them. Breaks my heart.


4,841 posted on 06/30/2005 12:22:09 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: kcvl; maggiefluffs; brigette

Wondering if Charles Croes and the Twittys traced that that cell phone call from coming from the beach area where they stopped and talk to the kids in the car that showed them where Joran lives.


4,842 posted on 06/30/2005 12:23:12 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: kcvl


Apparently, a call was made from Natalee's cell. That's my take too.


4,843 posted on 06/30/2005 12:28:35 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: onyx
They're wearing down... I feel so badly for them. Breaks my heart.

Exactly right. They are exhausted and want to go home with their daughter one way or another. They can keep their damn "law enforcement" and criminals. I don't think they will ever have to worry about them stepping foot on that island again when they leave. They also won't have to worry about too many Americans going there either if this case is never solved.

I realize they may not have a huge drop in tourists this year but just wait until this is eventually over. Many people didn't bother to cancel their vacation and they are getting people in to help search for Natalee and support the family. Just wait until everyone leaves! I'm boycotting the place.

No one should ever have to deal with this crap, ever!

4,844 posted on 06/30/2005 12:28:39 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl


Me too. I'm boycotting it and I "know" O'Reilly will too.


4,845 posted on 06/30/2005 12:30:33 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: onyx

Could Natalee have called from someone's cell phone?


4,846 posted on 06/30/2005 12:31:31 AM PDT by maggief
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To: kcvl
Just wait until everyone leaves!

This is what I've been thinking about today. What if they let him go?

What if he's freed and goes to college in the United States.

Will they take out ads saying, "Come to Aruba, He's Not Here Anymore?"

Will he be welcome at "college" in Florida?

4,847 posted on 06/30/2005 12:31:41 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: TexKat

I would think the telephone call was to Natalee's cell phone before she left for Carlos and Charlies. She left everything in her room except her driver's license and a little cash. But it could be while she was at C&C. Either way someone left a message on her cell phone, IMO.


4,848 posted on 06/30/2005 12:33:06 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: TexKat

Have you heard anything about van der Straten's contract up or retiring?


4,849 posted on 06/30/2005 12:33:16 AM PDT by maggief
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To: kcvl

I am livid about the lies I heard tonight --- JVDS claims that Natalee was drugging and drinking and that she FELL in front of the Holiday Inn. AND, I don;t believe for one minute that they took he to the lighthouse to see the view! AT NIGHT? No way. That story is another lie. I'd look for her on the opposite end of the island.

The father's advice has me reeling (no body, no crime) and he tried to make nice-nice with his Dutch tv interview -- sorry, he's a flat out liar too and maybe an accomplice.


4,850 posted on 06/30/2005 12:34:49 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: maggiefluffs; Howlin; kcvl


Apparently a call was placed on hers?

BTW, who believes that he won some of her money back for her? I do NOT.


4,851 posted on 06/30/2005 12:36:26 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: onyx

"Not I," said the Little Red Hen.


4,852 posted on 06/30/2005 12:38:46 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: onyx

Her mom said Natalee didn't have a credit card, but maybe she had one without mom's knowledge. Her wallet was in the hotel room with cash and those "crisp ones."


4,853 posted on 06/30/2005 12:39:03 AM PDT by maggief
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To: maggiefluffs

I am erring on the side of her mom --- her mom's word that Natlalee didn't have another credit card and an ATM withdrawal would already be known. I think Natalle and her mom were close.


4,854 posted on 06/30/2005 12:40:52 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: Howlin
Mark Fuhrman talked to Jug today and is going to talk to Beth tomorrow. He is trying to help them the best he can. IF they leave without Natalee you can bet Mark Fuhrman will be going to Aruba (maybe even before).

Right now they are just trying to focus on getting Natalee back and will deal with the other things once they have time to rest and think. Some of the search team are also detectives in their "real lives".

4,855 posted on 06/30/2005 12:41:55 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl

About that lighthouse, remember why Scott Peterson admitted to going to the marina? Because he thought he might have been seen.

I keep wondering why they talk about going to that lighthouse; why not just say they dropped them off at the beach.


4,856 posted on 06/30/2005 12:44:13 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: kcvl; Howlin; maggiefluffs


Jug cannot believe the interogators haven;t managed to crack one of the boys and neither can my husband, who thinks something is truly amiss with that. Husband wonders whether the boys are truly being grilled.


4,857 posted on 06/30/2005 12:44:17 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: onyx

Is it possible to get a summary of the status?

I've been watching HGTV because the media just repeats the same thing over and over


4,858 posted on 06/30/2005 12:44:19 AM PDT by Mo1 (We will stay in the fight until the fight is won ~~~ President G.W. Bush)
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To: onyx

I was just thinking that perhaps dad slipped her one of his credit cards in case of an emergency.


4,859 posted on 06/30/2005 12:44:20 AM PDT by maggief
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To: maggiefluffs


I think they'd all admit that now, were it true don;t you?


4,860 posted on 06/30/2005 12:45:07 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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