Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

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Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures - 
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

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I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

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Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)

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This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

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[onyx]

Right. I agree with you 100%.

[onyx]

You think the brothers will go free or JVDS too?

[TexKat]

Aruba prosecutor not ruling out more arrests per Fox News.

And the beat goes on!!

[cajungirl]

just keep refreshing and the site will come back, overloaded.

[maggief]

I also noted that both "Satin" and "Depunk's" accounts have been accessed withing the last two weeks..considering they were arrested on the 9th, it would make me wonder if there is an internet cafe at the prison..have they been allowed to make contact with the "outside" ?

Maybe someone has hacked into their accounts. Nice group of "friends," eh? "Depunk" and "Satin," reminds me of Dirty and Skeeter. LOL

[TexKat]

Does anyone recall MJ's statement that JvdS text messaged DK something to the effect, "I will get on line with you when I get home?"

Yes I recall John stating that, but was that a phone conversation or a text message?

[txrangerette]

Some people have noted that Natalee and Joran had little time on the beach. Greta herself mentioned it.

I agree it appears that way, but things aren't always what they appear. Phone calls on a cell phone, not traceable to a PRECISE location, that say somebody needs a ride home from the beach, does not prove he and she were through on the beach. (Maybe he was trying to involve Deepack in the trouble and failed. Maybe he was trying to establish an alibi for that time. Who knows?)

Something could have gone wrong on the beach very quickly, yes, but the aftermath and what Joran did about it, including involving his father, could have dragged out. There could have been something wrong with her but she could have been still alive. You said maybe he somehow got her home and the father came upon her there after Joran went to school.

Brigette, if that happened, think of how he might have accomplished that. Natalee is a small girl. Joran is a very big, very strong boy. Could he not have simply picked her up and carried her to the home? It was dark. Greta visited the beach at night to show location, and it was very dark. Or if not, maybe he ran home and told his father, and they took a family vehicle to get her. Who knows?

However, somebody maybe saw something who does not even realize it was important, or if they do realize it, they are too scared for their lives to come forward.

Let us ask ourselves at this point, why why why was Beth so convinced that Natalee had been at the vdS home location???

[Howlin]

Yes, I do.

[maggief]

I don't recall. I wonder if brigette Tivo'd Greta's show last night?

[TexKat]

I also noted that both "Satin" and "Depunk's" accounts have been accessed withing the last two weeks..considering they were arrested on the 9th, it would make me wonder if there is an internet cafe at the prison..have they been allowed to make contact with the "outside" ?

It could be LE accessing the sites.

[cajungirl]

bookmark

[spectre]

I think they will hold them all till they question their "friends" they had contact with over the 10 days they were free from jail. (Should have already been done!) That should take awhile.

It's a great big mess, Howlin.

[Howlin]

A HUGE mess.

But if they don't release them Tuesday, it's 60 days this time. I'm not sure they will do that.

Unless they have something we don't know about, which I doubt.

[xsmommy]

i have been absent from the thread today and wondered if any of you saw greta last night talking to the Aruban journalist about the interview with Steve Croes and where she said, well IS HE A NUT? (about him giving the alibi voluntarily for people he did not know) i died laughing, that is so something i would say, it struck me as hilarious to hear old buttoned down Greta say it.

[demkicker]

You're not hearing me

Then explain why Deepak would even bother telling that story to Mackey John?

Good grief, did you think I though sweating profusely WOULD hould up in court, or are you just being flippant with me?

[maggief]

LE is going to question the friends?

You mean they haven't talked to Freddy and Jaime yet?

*sigh*

[PBRSTREETGANG]

But if they don't release them Tuesday, it's 60 days this time. I'm not sure they will do that.

Because of that I am absolutely certain that the Kalpoe brothers will be released. In the absence of anything further, I also think that JVDS will be released.

[pnz1]

That's something I've noticed. Beth is very firm that Natalee was at their house/the VDS know what happened.

[spectre]

"Unless they have something we don't know about, which I doubt."

You don't know how profound that statement is, Howlin.

XSM..In this country, they would have charged Steve Croes with obstructing justice. But they don't do things the same way in Aruba..jeeze.

I'm just along for the ride now..cuz my brain hurts.

[demkicker]

Running away with my tail between my legs is not my style and never will be but this will be my last post to a hysterical and unreasonable thread

Thank God. Do you promise?