Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

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Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures - 
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

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I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

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Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)

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This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

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[maggief]

So, if cell phone records confirm, we have a cell call from JvdS to DK at approximately 2:30 or 2:40 am, conversation unknown ...

and a text message from JvdS to DK at approximately 3:30 am, content not confirmed.

We have no idea where JvdS or DK were when these communications took place. Do we have confirmation DK was at home? Which cell towers picked up the calls?

[onyx]

Yes, wasn't it the security guard Greta interviewed last night who related that story?

It was more of a CYA on the part of JVDS.

[PBRSTREETGANG]

All good questions.

Can only hope that the Arubian authorities are looking into those things. Although I'm losing faith that they are.

(I think it was said that DK was home when he received the text message. Don't know whether that can be believed or not.)

[vigilante2]

I was reviewing Satin Kalpo's Tickle web page ---> Satin

and discovered a buddie named ---> Alexxx

Alexxx has four photo albums one called ---> friends

regarding picture "back in the days...nadi hasi...I found quite ALARMING!!!..

I also noted that both "Satin" and "Depunk's" accounts have been accessed withing the last two weeks..considering they were arrested on the 9th, it would make me wonder if there is an internet cafe at the prison..have they been allowed to make contact with the "outside" ?

[toldyou]

I was at scaredmonkeys and reading some interesting stuff posted today by one of the classmates on the trip. Nothing revealing since he doesn't have answers either, but interesting. By the way, he's "Country Moon."

I left the site for about 2 minutes, went back, and couldn't access the site. It said "CGI-limits reached, please try again later."

What does that mean?

[wndycndy]

***Did anyone get a look at Steve Croes's father. Pretty scary. He would be the poster child for an alcoholic homeless convention.***

My thoughts EXACTLY!!! I watched Great last night and I also think the DJ is lying and the security guard is telling the truth and needs protection.

[maggief]

Yes, IIRC, it was the SG.

I lost faith in Aruba LE long ago.

Who confirmed DK was at home? SK?

[maggief]

It's getting overloaded with too much traffic. Refresh the page a time or two.

BTW, when the sight is overloaded sometimes the admin restricts the Natalee threads to members only, which means one has to log in to read the posts.

[toldyou]

Thanks!

[kcvl]

Aruba prosecutor not ruling out more arrests per Fox News.

[Howlin]

Fox Alert: Aruba Prosecutor not ruling out more arrest.

Whatever that means.

[maggief]

FNC alert. Bong!

Aruban prosecutor does not rule out that there will be more arrests.

[onyx]

SK? You mean the brother?

I think the security guard was recounting the story the one brother told him. We are left to believe the story or not. I happen to believe it at this point.

[PBRSTREETGANG]

Fox Alert: Aruba Prosecutor not ruling out more arrest.

Whatever that means.

Thanks for the update.

(I suspect it ultimately means that the Aruba Judge is not ruling out that many more releases down the road.)

[kcvl]

[JIM O]

It seems to me it would be bigger news if they did rule out additional arrests

[Howlin]

Exactly.

I suspect they will go free on Tuesday.

[Trust but Verify]

If the VDS are the evil geniuses people have made them out to be, why on earth would they bury a dead body on their own property?

[maggief]

SK, yes the brother.

I believe the SG, but not what DK told him. He may be telling the truth about the vdS "family" involvement with making up the story, but DK may be not be truthful about his whereabouts that night in order to save his sorry @ss.

[toldyou]

I've been reading a lot about a guy by the name of Lorenzo van Rijn. There were posted comments by Arubans saying that he is known for his "violence and for hosting after hours raves at his country houses."

I wonder if he's being investigated.